Grover's Disease: What works to help find relief?
I have been diagnosed with Grover's disease under my breasts. I had a biopsy for diagnosis. Tried topical ointment with no really good results. Any ideas?
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MariannJ: Thanks for the info about Accutane. Even though I am on a small dose it could explain why I feel down and sometimes my thoughts are not very optimistic. I'll be 76 in a week and I always thought I/we would have a nice 'comfortable' retirement. Well that has been blown out of the water. 1st, my wife was diagnosed with Dementia 8 years ago and has been in a Long Term Care home for 3 years now. I go & feed her lunch everyday, walk her when she can, sit with her etc. Now along comes CoVid-19-total lockdown. Haven't seen her in over a month. Grover's is making me crazy. What a life! As John Lennon said: Life is what happens when you're busy making plans.
Waiting for my delivery. Thanks again.
Good luck with it. I’ll be posting information on some other treatments for GD soon.
Here’s some more info on the Demodex mites, which I believe are related to GD.
An elongated parasite, Demodex "sit with their heads down in the sebum-containing pore utilizing human sebum as a nutritional source. The mites release their waste products, which are composed of free fatty acids, into the pore and surrounding tissues, which are extremely irritating," Draelos explained. "Free fatty acids are released not only by Demodex, but also by bacteria like Proprionibacterium acnes, which is the causative agent in acne. It's interesting that all organisms that utilize sebum as a nutritional source release free fatty acids, and providing a common pathway for inflammation, not only in rosacea, but also in inflammatory acne and in the facial erythema and desquamation associated with seborrheic dermatitis."
Has anyone tried Ivermectin (Soolantra) for their Grover’s Disease? It is getting more popular for treating rosacea as it targets the mites. Some doctors prescribe an antibiotic with Ivermectin to make it work better.
My skin troubles started with what I self-diagnosed as a demodex infestation – extremely itchy and inflamed eyelids and eyebrows, which began during a stay at an unexpectedly shabby airbnb – which has seemed to slowly but steadily spread downward. The eyebrow thing started over Memorial Day weekend in 2018; by the end of summer, my whole face felt inflamed; by the end of the year I was diagnosed with rosacea and was starting to have an itchy neck with inflamation in the creases; bumps then appeared on my shoulders and chest, and I was diagnosed with GD based on a biopsy; now it's gone down my arms and is worst in my armpits and inside my elbows. The docs seem to see what's going on in different areas as unrelated – rosacea vs. GD vs. something fungal – but to me the spread of one kind of itchiness or another has seemed very steady, continually downward, so I can't help but feel they're related.
Anyway, I've been using soolantra or ivermectin cream on my face for the rosacea for at least a year and a half, and for many months – probably a year or so – also used it on the back of my neck, hoping it would help with the GD there, but I can't say it did. More recently, my insurance stopped covering soolantra or ivermectin cream, and it's terribly expensive, so I stopped using it on my neck at least a month ago, and my neck does not seem any worse.
I also tried a course of oral ivermectin, which is supposed to kill demodex, going to great lengths to sanitize all my clothes, bedding, hairbrush, etc. – but noticed no improvement at all.
The short answer: I've concluded that, at least for me, ivermectin doesn't help the GD much, even if it helps with the rosacea.
I found this article and thought I would share it. I found it interesting and it lists GD as one of the diseases Demodex can cause. Human Demodex Mite: The Versatile Mite of Dermatological Importance
My fear is the your dermatologist may be grasping at straws. I had 4 separate/different diagnosis before they finally got it right. Please seek a second or third opinion. I have zero faith in the medical community. They only guess and throw medicine at you until something works. Be your own best advocate. There is another person on the Grover's Disease Facebook Page who was diagnosed with Grover's and it turns out her problem was scabies! I was able to find the Cilantro cure by doing my own research over a year ago and shared the info here so others could benefit. NO other Dr is suggesting it and most poo poo it! Even though it works on a great majority of sufferers.
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- Human Demodex Mite: The Versatile Mite of Dermatological Importance https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3884930/#!po=0.877193
Ok thank you
kimass1 is completely correct. It took me over a year with several demrs to get the right diagnosis- went to a new derm who took one look and identified it. Other's treated it as a different form of eczema to no avail. That said, no px ever made a noticeable or any difference. All the px did was give me hope. kimass1 is my angel. Without her on this site I would have not been aware of cilantro as a treatment which would help me and about 50% of others . I wrote this up and took it to both of my derms when cleared up and they seemed not to have any interest in my results or how it had helped others.