Phlegm in my throat and post nasal drip after Covid

Posted by danny2022 @danny2022, Dec 18, 2022

Ever since I had covid in January of 2022 I recovered from the virus but I was left with a constant phlegm in the back of my throat and post nasal drip that will not go away. The feeling of having mucus in the back of my throat actually gets worse when I try to get rid of it by coughing. I have been given steroid inhalers, albuterol, allergy medication, but none of these work. The mucus gets worse especially after I eat. I've never felt like this before and it all started after covid. Can anybody relate to what I am going through?

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@mikedod

One more thing to add - I just read last night. - New paper is linked below - seems plausible that CFTR is involved in the constant sticky mucus after covid. Maybe share it with your specialists if you are seeing them to see if they have ideas. I will update if there is anything that I learn that helps.

-Mike
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-66473-4

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Very interesting. I just wonder about the risks involved in treating those who don’t have heart problem with digitoxin.

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@mikedod

Long - ish post coming...

Synopsis:
Covid slime for 2 years. It is miserable and really life altering. It blows. Pun intended.

Something I just tried today that seems to really clear off the slime off my throat as a quick fix -

Neti pot - Mix 7 grams of sodium ascorbate into 1 cup of warm distilled water ( ~240g DISTILLED water) This makes around a 3% solution. Add in neti salt like normal per salt directions. Neti this. I didn't notice any extra discomfort - maybe a tiny bit. Cleared off all the snot pretty well. I will post an update in a few days to let you know how long the effect lasts. Apparently this creates local levels of vitamin C that would require an astronomical oral dose to achieve.

Reasoning - Sodium ascorbate is just a buffered salt of Vitamin C (pH more neutral) This makes it not burn like Vitamin C would. Vitamin C activates CFTR channels (cystic fibrosis transmembrane conductance regulator) which increases the amount of liquid that cells put out to form the pericilliary liquid layer - the fluid that snot rides on as your ciliated cells try to move it out. My guess is that after infection CFTR is chronically somewhat downregulated, and/or the airway epithelium has reformed after infection to have too many mucous producing goblet cells and not enough ciliated cells (goblet cell hyperplasia).

Side note on this stuff - I used to have it worse in my lungs - now it is more in my upper chest/throat. Not really in my nose - but the neti still helps because it makes my epiglottis stay more "liquidy" and helps me swallow the covid slime or spit it up easier.

Also for those who have it rougher and want to try - I also had some success nebulizing sodium ascorbate - 1 gram in 10 grams (or 10 mL) of distilled water or isotonic (0.9%) nebulizer saline solution. This makes a 10% sodium ascorbate solution. Nebulize for 20-30 minutes or as long as it takes to feel the snot get "swallowable." Again this is Vitamin C straight to the airway epithelium including lungs. It isn't harsh to me and seems to clear things up well.

That's my 2 cents on this stuff and here is the link to amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/NutriBiotic-Ascorbate-Non-Acidic-Antioxidant-Supplement/dp/B000Z8YM7O/
Still in search of the ultimate cure - but anything to make life more normal helps - especially if it is pretty quick and easy to do.

-Mike

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Anybody know what 7g of sodium ascorbate would be in teaspoons?

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@mimioto

Anybody know what 7g of sodium ascorbate would be in teaspoons?

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I asked your question at Open AI - Chat GPT … https://openai.com/chatgpt/ … and got this reply:

“7 grams of sodium ascorbate is approximately 1.55 teaspoons.”

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@capecodder

I asked your question at Open AI - Chat GPT … https://openai.com/chatgpt/ … and got this reply:

“7 grams of sodium ascorbate is approximately 1.55 teaspoons.”

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Brilliant. Thanx!

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@mikedod

One more thing to add - I just read last night. - New paper is linked below - seems plausible that CFTR is involved in the constant sticky mucus after covid. Maybe share it with your specialists if you are seeing them to see if they have ideas. I will update if there is anything that I learn that helps.

-Mike
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-66473-4

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Hi Mike,

I also have chronic postnasal slime since I got Covid, and I recently came across a 2022 paper from Japan that talks about treating the epipharynx with zinc chloride to reduce inflammation, and it’s demonstrated efficacy at reducing fatigue and other symptoms in people with Long Covid.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9147901
It seems like there may be a connection between this treatment and the information in the paper that you posted. Unfortunately the epipahrynx treatment (called Epipharyngeal Abrasive Therapy, EAT) is only available in Japan.

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I have the same issue, but it seems that it gets better and then it comes on again, and I can’t figure out what brings it on. But also when I get the phlegm other symptoms pop up like tingling in my arms and legs, and heavy chest that causes my breathing to be more of an effort, and exhaustion. Has anyone else experienced this?

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First things first:

Here are what worked for me:
Montelukast 10mg
Asmeton Strong: An Japanese medication
Roxithromycin 150mg

Also: Cardamon Cinnamon Herbal Tea works SOOO well on me! The phlegm is much less!!! Thank you for whoever recommend the Cardamon on this post!

I bought the tea from Whole Foods, and I put 3 bags. I also add the Cardamon seeds directly to the tea.

Here is my story:
I got COVID three times, and every time, it associates with coughing and sensitivity of the airway. Dr. suspected that I had asthma, but not really asthma, as the asthma doctor. test does not show that I have asthma. That is how bad this long covid is. It is a combination of everything.

This summer, I got my third covid. I have suffered from the white and sticky bubble phlegm for over 40 days. It subsided for a while but came back again after I smelled smoke and got tired. I have constant phlegm since I lay on the bed, and during the daytime, I do not have much coughing and phlegm. I also feel a stick poking my throat from time to time, making it tight and itchy.

I have tried many different medications. But what it really worked are the medications that I try above. Not a recommendation, just a kind sharing of my experiences.

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@jjentges

I have the same issue, but it seems that it gets better and then it comes on again, and I can’t figure out what brings it on. But also when I get the phlegm other symptoms pop up like tingling in my arms and legs, and heavy chest that causes my breathing to be more of an effort, and exhaustion. Has anyone else experienced this?

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I have congestion intermittently, also tingling arms, hands, taste issue, no brain fog or fatigue though.

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Have you found anything that helps?

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