Ivermectin for Prostate Cancer? (Being studied)

Posted by tvz @tvz, Apr 7 4:56pm

I am 54 and have Gleason 3+4 in 8% of one lobe. My PSA rose from 8.1 to 9.6 in the past 6 months. I’ve heard Ivermectin has potential to slow growth of cancer cells. Has anyone tried IVM or any other medication that has been shown to slow growth?

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@vancouverislandhiker

Meriva is not a FenBen type drug . This is like an apple and orange . Turmeric is a anti inflammatory with some good uses ... But FenBen totally different . Some interesting studies .

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Yeah, I know. Please see my previous post

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@vancouverislandhiker

You make some really good points . PSA is a predictor of a bunch of things , like a enlarged prostate and so on . FenBen is not a spooky drug . Ivermectine and its relatives have been on the market for humans for years and years - trying it I cant would hurt you and it should not be considered to be a 'end stage ' option . With you Dr's approval , try it and see if you PSA does come down and other markers look better . Many people have reported very many positives . Plus if you have travelled much a good dose of Ivermectine may be useful . When was your last decal matter analyses for parasites of All types - probably never ? Dr's never think of it . I asked the Dr for one after returning from Indonesia . Positive for a couple parasites - zero symptoms ! Indonesia is some kind of political S$it hole . I have been there so many times and it gets worse by the month ( danger wise ) . They are swimming in oil too but the regular people never get their hands on any of the money ...unlike Brunei . Being a pilot I have travelled the world many times , and studied culture and societies ( one of my hobbies ) . I live now PT on Luzon about 6 months a year and work from Cebu airport and MNL and Clarke .

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Oh, going overseas to some countries is inviting a parasitic infection, as you point out. I’ve heard some real horror stories!
The reason I don’t do Ivermectin now - besides my belief that it is not proven yet for PCa - is that I am currently on Orgovyx for recurrence with radiation to follow. In just one month my PSA has gone from .18 to .05 and my testosterone from 609 to 5. Five more months can only enhance its ability to starve the cancer cells.
With that kind of result why would I try something that has never been tested in double blind studies? Why add a possible as yet unknown drug interaction? Why fix it if it ain’t broke?
Ivermectin and others surely have promise - I’ve read of their ability to inhibit certain functions in cancer cells of all types; it definitely needs to be explored in greater depth. I have no doubt that if this inexpensive drug could be turned into a multi billion dollar powerhouse, Big Pharma would molecularly tweak it just enough to avoid any patent disputes and sell it like crazy with a catchy name.

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@vancouverislandhiker

You make some really good points . PSA is a predictor of a bunch of things , like a enlarged prostate and so on . FenBen is not a spooky drug . Ivermectine and its relatives have been on the market for humans for years and years - trying it I cant would hurt you and it should not be considered to be a 'end stage ' option . With you Dr's approval , try it and see if you PSA does come down and other markers look better . Many people have reported very many positives . Plus if you have travelled much a good dose of Ivermectine may be useful . When was your last decal matter analyses for parasites of All types - probably never ? Dr's never think of it . I asked the Dr for one after returning from Indonesia . Positive for a couple parasites - zero symptoms ! Indonesia is some kind of political S$it hole . I have been there so many times and it gets worse by the month ( danger wise ) . They are swimming in oil too but the regular people never get their hands on any of the money ...unlike Brunei . Being a pilot I have travelled the world many times , and studied culture and societies ( one of my hobbies ) . I live now PT on Luzon about 6 months a year and work from Cebu airport and MNL and Clarke .

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@vancouverislandhiker, thank you for adding "with your doctor's approval". You're also correct that ivermectin and related anti-parasitic medications have been on the market for years. However, this does not make them safe for all conditions.

I add a caution about the statement "trying it can't hurt you." Repurposing drugs for conditions for which they are not approved may be benign (have no effect), cause unwanted symptoms, be irrevesibly harmful or, in some cases, be fatal. So back to your statement about talking with your doctor when considering off-label medications.

I know you guys are going to find me annoying 😁, but I have to repeat the community guidelines https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/about-connect/tab/community-guidelines/.

A recap in blunt and brief:
1. Don't prescribe or tell people what to do.
2. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have read on the community.
3. Keep politics out of the community conversations.

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@heavyphil

Oh, going overseas to some countries is inviting a parasitic infection, as you point out. I’ve heard some real horror stories!
The reason I don’t do Ivermectin now - besides my belief that it is not proven yet for PCa - is that I am currently on Orgovyx for recurrence with radiation to follow. In just one month my PSA has gone from .18 to .05 and my testosterone from 609 to 5. Five more months can only enhance its ability to starve the cancer cells.
With that kind of result why would I try something that has never been tested in double blind studies? Why add a possible as yet unknown drug interaction? Why fix it if it ain’t broke?
Ivermectin and others surely have promise - I’ve read of their ability to inhibit certain functions in cancer cells of all types; it definitely needs to be explored in greater depth. I have no doubt that if this inexpensive drug could be turned into a multi billion dollar powerhouse, Big Pharma would molecularly tweak it just enough to avoid any patent disputes and sell it like crazy with a catchy name.

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Best of luck with things . Always check with your doctor before trying new things . I started using a new Pre-workout powder , great stuff that the Dr said was OK for me ... but I noticed that it had 'testosterone enhancing ' drugs in it . I questions him again , and he said maybe switch back to the other one I used . I scrapped them both and just have a coffee before the workout for the extra gas in the tank . I guess my point is even Dr's cannot keep up with every substance on the market . God Bless and good luck with Orgovyx. Heard some good things about it , depleting testosterone .

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