Anyone treating palpitations with ibuprofen? I did and WOW!

Posted by Ms. Mac @donnamac, Aug 24 7:09am

For 9 months I have had daily, non stop, never ending bigeminy (double heart beat every other beat) since I had Covid last November.

I usually never take ibuprofen but a month or so ago, I had a bad knee and took 1/2 of a 200 ml of Motrin. The entire next 20 hours or so, I had normal heartbeat with no palpitations. So I tested it out, figuring it was a very nice coincidence but just a coincidence. I waited two days and took another 1/2 of ibuprofen, within an hour, palpitations stopped for an entire 24 hour period. I mentioned this to my Primary Care Doc but was flatly told that one has nothing to do with the other. However, knowing that Covid symptoms are reportedly caused by inflammation, and ibuprofen treats inflammation, why wouldn't it help?

And then, I found this article originating from Mayo Clinic: https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/heart-inflammation-after-covid-19

It may not be a cure, and I have not taken ibuprofen in 30 years, until I was in so much pain, and then this happened. My issue is, ibuprofen is high on a list of no no drugs, especially for elderly people. But if afib, or heart palpitations are constant, or off and on, when someone over 65 has it from long Covid, which is worse?
Thanks for reading this.
Donna Mac

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@hrojzen0922

Donna -- I find your discovery to be fascinating and admire the way you pay close attention to what your body is doing under different conditions. Yes, we are all warned of the dangers of ibuprofen, but generally, these warnings come in a vacuum. Some of the medications we´re routinely prescribed in relation to heart health themselves carry risks (even to the heart, in some cases), and when one ventures to try an OTC product or supplement, yes, we should be sure, with physician input, to minimize risks of harming ourselves, but we should also ask our doctors whether, ON BALANCE, the product of interest could actually do more harm, across our body systems, than do the medications we may already be taking or may soon be advised to take. The challenge there is that most physicians today consider all OTCs and nutraceuticals to be worthless or worse regardless of the availability of studies and meta-analyses that may point to favorable safety margins for these products, and so I can think of no physician I have ever encountered who would ever do the kind of comparative risk analysis Iḿ advocating. Ultimately, we make our own decisions, though, and when conventional medicine is not helping, or may be hurting, there are moments when we choose to forge ahead, taking full responsibility for whatever may ensue. That is sometimes the best that we can do. And frankly, I take leaps like this quite often, keeping my PCP as closely apprised as I can.

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and insight. I have had many prescribed medications that have caused severe asthma attacks and high blood pressure. I do not take medications just because a physician prescribed it. And I know every single medication I take and research before I take. I've always been this way after severe asthma attacks from prescription drugs. Plus, I also have Alpha Gal (tick bite allergy) which is a life threatening allergy to anything mammal. Since that new delight in my life as of 6 years ago, I do not trust any medication until I research the ingredients. Heparin, gelcaps and many medications that are not vegan, etc., could cause fatal results for me. Restaurant food has become a thing of the past due to trips to the ER even after drilling the cook, manager, etc. of ingredients. Epi-pens are with me at all times. Either way, I still forge ahead........and research before I swallow any pills.

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Bravo! I feel more empowered just by reading all that you must master, and seeing your vigilance in action. I have always believed that when we become the top guardians of our own health and safety, our prognoses get better and better.

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@hrojzen0922

Donna -- I find your discovery to be fascinating and admire the way you pay close attention to what your body is doing under different conditions. Yes, we are all warned of the dangers of ibuprofen, but generally, these warnings come in a vacuum. Some of the medications we´re routinely prescribed in relation to heart health themselves carry risks (even to the heart, in some cases), and when one ventures to try an OTC product or supplement, yes, we should be sure, with physician input, to minimize risks of harming ourselves, but we should also ask our doctors whether, ON BALANCE, the product of interest could actually do more harm, across our body systems, than do the medications we may already be taking or may soon be advised to take. The challenge there is that most physicians today consider all OTCs and nutraceuticals to be worthless or worse regardless of the availability of studies and meta-analyses that may point to favorable safety margins for these products, and so I can think of no physician I have ever encountered who would ever do the kind of comparative risk analysis Iḿ advocating. Ultimately, we make our own decisions, though, and when conventional medicine is not helping, or may be hurting, there are moments when we choose to forge ahead, taking full responsibility for whatever may ensue. That is sometimes the best that we can do. And frankly, I take leaps like this quite often, keeping my PCP as closely apprised as I can.

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I say go to your cardiologist. If your PCP dismissed you out of hand then I’d seek input elsewhere

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@pb50

I say go to your cardiologist. If your PCP dismissed you out of hand then I’d seek input elsewhere

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Oh I had my say and my departure. My cardiologist was angry because I had a heart monitor patch for a week prescribed by Johns Hopkins Hospital University, trial division. He wouldn't even see me, he sent his PA. She is the one who said she never heard of anything called "long Covid, or Long Haul Covid." I told them, I won't be back and will never give good reviews about any in that practice.

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@donnamac

Oh I had my say and my departure. My cardiologist was angry because I had a heart monitor patch for a week prescribed by Johns Hopkins Hospital University, trial division. He wouldn't even see me, he sent his PA. She is the one who said she never heard of anything called "long Covid, or Long Haul Covid." I told them, I won't be back and will never give good reviews about any in that practice.

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Ms. Mac, if you are located in the region of Johns Hopkins (main campus or any of its satellite locations around Baltimore), you may want to consider getting a referral to the Hopkins long COVID clinic (PACT). Since the clinicians from whom you have sought help have brushed you off (which shocks the conscious, really (I have myself experienced the brush-off multiple times already, usually from ENT specialists)), possibly you can get situated with a new primary care provider. The primary care doctors in the Hopkins network are overstretched these days, but I´ve had good experiences with several of the PAs attached to internal medicine PCPs. Do you use MyChart? If so, you should be able to schedule with a new PCP (likely initially to be a PA or CNP) at one of the Hopkins locations simply by using the scheduling system inside MyChart. You have probably used this system, and if so, you know that it will generate open appt. listings arranged by date. I see no reason you cannot see a sequence of PCPs, over time, until such time as one of them hears you out and considers making a referral to PACT. Hereś a link to PACT:
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/coronavirus/pact. Originally, PACT seemed to specialize in cases involving long COVID after hospitalization, but its criteria now seem more expansive.

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@donnamac

Oh I had my say and my departure. My cardiologist was angry because I had a heart monitor patch for a week prescribed by Johns Hopkins Hospital University, trial division. He wouldn't even see me, he sent his PA. She is the one who said she never heard of anything called "long Covid, or Long Haul Covid." I told them, I won't be back and will never give good reviews about any in that practice.

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I went to a cardiologist a few months ago for rapid heart beats…he ran numerous tests and couldn’t find anything wrong with my heart except it’s beating too fast…well I already knew that since I’ve been dealing with this for almost two years now…he seemed to wait for me to respond to what he said and I did, I told him it started after having covid and he was quiet for a moment and he asked me if I had a problem with telling my doctor to refer me to a psychiatrist, so much for getting in with a specialist that took months for me to see…honestly if it wasn’t for the good people here sharing the same symptoms I have, I think I’d be thinking I’m going crazy.

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@frouke

I went to a cardiologist a few months ago for rapid heart beats…he ran numerous tests and couldn’t find anything wrong with my heart except it’s beating too fast…well I already knew that since I’ve been dealing with this for almost two years now…he seemed to wait for me to respond to what he said and I did, I told him it started after having covid and he was quiet for a moment and he asked me if I had a problem with telling my doctor to refer me to a psychiatrist, so much for getting in with a specialist that took months for me to see…honestly if it wasn’t for the good people here sharing the same symptoms I have, I think I’d be thinking I’m going crazy.

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Oh my goodness! That is horrible! In our state, Long Covid is an actual recognized disability if one cannot work. I cannot imagine after so long that physicians don't believe this is real. But then, physicians don't have a clue about my 6 long year stint with Alpha Gal Allergy from a tick either. We have to be our own physicians I'm afraid. A physician without the ability to prescribe medications. There is something just not right with many medical providers. If there is no money in it, like Lyme Disease, Alpha Gal Syndrome, Long Covid, to name a recent few, they will not learn about it, nor recognize it.

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@frouke

I went to a cardiologist a few months ago for rapid heart beats…he ran numerous tests and couldn’t find anything wrong with my heart except it’s beating too fast…well I already knew that since I’ve been dealing with this for almost two years now…he seemed to wait for me to respond to what he said and I did, I told him it started after having covid and he was quiet for a moment and he asked me if I had a problem with telling my doctor to refer me to a psychiatrist, so much for getting in with a specialist that took months for me to see…honestly if it wasn’t for the good people here sharing the same symptoms I have, I think I’d be thinking I’m going crazy.

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I am so sorry you are going through this mess. And it is a mess for all of long Covid sufferers. I also seek out fellow sufferers and this forum beats anything on Facebook or any other social network where anything goes. Maybe together, you and I and members of this group can thrive!

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@hrojzen0922

Ms. Mac, if you are located in the region of Johns Hopkins (main campus or any of its satellite locations around Baltimore), you may want to consider getting a referral to the Hopkins long COVID clinic (PACT). Since the clinicians from whom you have sought help have brushed you off (which shocks the conscious, really (I have myself experienced the brush-off multiple times already, usually from ENT specialists)), possibly you can get situated with a new primary care provider. The primary care doctors in the Hopkins network are overstretched these days, but I´ve had good experiences with several of the PAs attached to internal medicine PCPs. Do you use MyChart? If so, you should be able to schedule with a new PCP (likely initially to be a PA or CNP) at one of the Hopkins locations simply by using the scheduling system inside MyChart. You have probably used this system, and if so, you know that it will generate open appt. listings arranged by date. I see no reason you cannot see a sequence of PCPs, over time, until such time as one of them hears you out and considers making a referral to PACT. Hereś a link to PACT:
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/coronavirus/pact. Originally, PACT seemed to specialize in cases involving long COVID after hospitalization, but its criteria now seem more expansive.

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I am in the trials for the inherited cholesterol gene and have been for four years. My doc who asked me how I was on my last visit, was the Hopkins cardiologist in the trials that immediately said, I will run some tests, but I can tell you it is "Long Covid". I had a horrible case of Covid last November along with pneumonia. Palpitations ever since, bigeminy and trigeminy patterns 24/7. I have sought out several doctors at Hopkins and found one who will help me I hope. I really appreciate your advice, and a pep talk. You do know the system. And I am in My Chart for several physician specialists, plus my PCP. Thank you so much.

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Very interesting. I have new onset bigeminy/trigeminy s/p exposure to two people who were previously vaccinated & boosted but both actively sick with Covid. I understand that they generate a much higher spike load than if not vaccinated.
Cardiologist says I may never find out what caused it - and is treating me with beta blockers.
If Motrin helped you, do you think that you may benefit from a steroid to address the inflammation? And, have you considered a pet scan of your heart. Dr. McCullough says that a lot of the myocarditis cases are being missed on regular echocardiogram but being seen via pet scan.
Thank you again for your comments. Very helpful.

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