Loss of Taste and Smell from Covid or something else?

Posted by lkirnbauer @lkirnbauer, Aug 15 9:01am

I’m wondering if anyone has an autoimmune disease that they have lost their taste and smell from? I had 18” of my colon removed in April of 2022 due to severe diverticulitis. I did not loose my taste and smell from that, but contracted Covid in December of 2022 and on day 2 of the virus lost my taste and smell. I still don’t have it back and have had 4 Stellate Ganglion Block injections. The injections help for about 4 to 5 weeks where I will smell my coffee grounds or my perfume when spraying it on, but then it doesn’t last and goes away again. I’m at the end of my rope here! Any suggestions will be helpful. Thank you!

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I’ll try to address each issue mentioned above in 1 post. Sorry for the length. I just hope some part my help a little.

My neurologist is very informed about vitamin deficiencies. He says it’s quite common, but people don’t know to check. It can cause severe and permanent damage if left untreated too long. Even paralysis! That’s why I pray it’s not too late for me. I was initially undertreated. He said when its very low, like under 200, it takes a lot and a long time. He’s not even checking mine right now. The repair takes a long time. I take whatever sublingual that’s on sale at Walgreens. It will be re-tested at some point. He says too much is not a concern.

I asked my ENT about the SG Block and he said no, he would try to avoid that. Not sure why. Apparently, he’s not a fan. My primary suggested scent retraining and I tried that but not regularly. The essential oil kit wasn’t ideal, imo. I couldn’t smell them. I kept trying….real food scents were better for me. Don’t know if they helped or not.

My initial visit to ENT ( scratch and sniff tests. Booklets where you pick the scent by multiple choice. I was frustrated. I didn’t think I got any right. There are probably hundreds of scents like musk, smoke, lime, etc.) My smell was very abnormal. I had no idea. I knew that I had little appetite. I have lost almost 90 pounds since covid! On purpose mostly. But it wasn’t difficult, since my taste was off too. The constant bad taste started metallic, turned bitter. Food tasted ok, but bitter taste was and is constant. He diagnosed me with Post Covid Syndrome and waited on other tests results from neurologist (private office), like MRI (had neuropathy symptoms, but he said no neuropathy). First neuro only said smell/taste issue is tough. That’s it. Found nothing wrong. Didn’t test B12 because I had taken some supplements, but not enough. It was missed.

Then months later, I saw second neuro (Duke) by a fluke! Saved my life. He did extensive review of records, neurological exam, (2 exams that day as his assistant did the tests too). Based on my symptoms and original B12 level, he diagnosed me with deficiency and suspects it has caused me a lot of my symptoms, including the smell/taste, rashes, burning skin, stinging skin, numbness, constipation, hair loss, etc. But, he still wants me evaluated for Sjogrens, so he’s monitoring me as I see the Rheumatologist next week.
All of these current specialists are with Duke.

The doctors don’t know for sure what caused my issues, however, whether it’s B12 or covid dissipation, I have seen improvement!

My return to ENT last month was Incredible! I retook the smell test and my score was dramatically better! I could tell how much better it was. I scored really good. He was shocked! We don’t know why that happened. I could tell my taste is better too, because my weight loss has slowed and I struggle to limit food because it’s so delicious! But, the bitter taste remains 24/7…….☹️

I’m so glad people on this site encouraged me to advocate for myself. I can’t imagine where I’d be if I hadn’t gotten that second opinion from the neurologist at Duke. He talks to me like he cares and I have no doubt he’s giving his all to help me.

Good luck everybody. This is a stressful condition. I’m seeing a therapist. It helps.

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@johnnoregon

I have autoimmune dysfunction due to tacrolimus and a transplant. I had COVID in the summer of 2022. It was less than sniffles. I had all the shots, plus. the monoclonal antibodies forced on me twice that the FDA later quietly admitted didn't work and withdrew. I stopped the shots as my 3rd booster sent me to ED 7 days later with a heart attack in April 2022, four months before contracting COVID. No more of these vaccinations for me. I don't whether the shots or COVID sucked the life out of my ability to smell and taste, but it was one or both.

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I am so sorry for you John. I had all the shots and no reactions, but I did get it from a medication years before covid and it went away . I sure hope you get better.

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@celia16

I’ll try to address each issue mentioned above in 1 post. Sorry for the length. I just hope some part my help a little.

My neurologist is very informed about vitamin deficiencies. He says it’s quite common, but people don’t know to check. It can cause severe and permanent damage if left untreated too long. Even paralysis! That’s why I pray it’s not too late for me. I was initially undertreated. He said when its very low, like under 200, it takes a lot and a long time. He’s not even checking mine right now. The repair takes a long time. I take whatever sublingual that’s on sale at Walgreens. It will be re-tested at some point. He says too much is not a concern.

I asked my ENT about the SG Block and he said no, he would try to avoid that. Not sure why. Apparently, he’s not a fan. My primary suggested scent retraining and I tried that but not regularly. The essential oil kit wasn’t ideal, imo. I couldn’t smell them. I kept trying….real food scents were better for me. Don’t know if they helped or not.

My initial visit to ENT ( scratch and sniff tests. Booklets where you pick the scent by multiple choice. I was frustrated. I didn’t think I got any right. There are probably hundreds of scents like musk, smoke, lime, etc.) My smell was very abnormal. I had no idea. I knew that I had little appetite. I have lost almost 90 pounds since covid! On purpose mostly. But it wasn’t difficult, since my taste was off too. The constant bad taste started metallic, turned bitter. Food tasted ok, but bitter taste was and is constant. He diagnosed me with Post Covid Syndrome and waited on other tests results from neurologist (private office), like MRI (had neuropathy symptoms, but he said no neuropathy). First neuro only said smell/taste issue is tough. That’s it. Found nothing wrong. Didn’t test B12 because I had taken some supplements, but not enough. It was missed.

Then months later, I saw second neuro (Duke) by a fluke! Saved my life. He did extensive review of records, neurological exam, (2 exams that day as his assistant did the tests too). Based on my symptoms and original B12 level, he diagnosed me with deficiency and suspects it has caused me a lot of my symptoms, including the smell/taste, rashes, burning skin, stinging skin, numbness, constipation, hair loss, etc. But, he still wants me evaluated for Sjogrens, so he’s monitoring me as I see the Rheumatologist next week.
All of these current specialists are with Duke.

The doctors don’t know for sure what caused my issues, however, whether it’s B12 or covid dissipation, I have seen improvement!

My return to ENT last month was Incredible! I retook the smell test and my score was dramatically better! I could tell how much better it was. I scored really good. He was shocked! We don’t know why that happened. I could tell my taste is better too, because my weight loss has slowed and I struggle to limit food because it’s so delicious! But, the bitter taste remains 24/7…….☹️

I’m so glad people on this site encouraged me to advocate for myself. I can’t imagine where I’d be if I hadn’t gotten that second opinion from the neurologist at Duke. He talks to me like he cares and I have no doubt he’s giving his all to help me.

Good luck everybody. This is a stressful condition. I’m seeing a therapist. It helps.

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I’m glad you’re beginning to heal! If I may ask, how much B12 are you taking and what brand is it? I’m taking a lot of supplements and my multivitamin has B12 in it (100 mcg). What dosage did your doctor recommend for you?

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@celia16

I’ll try to address each issue mentioned above in 1 post. Sorry for the length. I just hope some part my help a little.

My neurologist is very informed about vitamin deficiencies. He says it’s quite common, but people don’t know to check. It can cause severe and permanent damage if left untreated too long. Even paralysis! That’s why I pray it’s not too late for me. I was initially undertreated. He said when its very low, like under 200, it takes a lot and a long time. He’s not even checking mine right now. The repair takes a long time. I take whatever sublingual that’s on sale at Walgreens. It will be re-tested at some point. He says too much is not a concern.

I asked my ENT about the SG Block and he said no, he would try to avoid that. Not sure why. Apparently, he’s not a fan. My primary suggested scent retraining and I tried that but not regularly. The essential oil kit wasn’t ideal, imo. I couldn’t smell them. I kept trying….real food scents were better for me. Don’t know if they helped or not.

My initial visit to ENT ( scratch and sniff tests. Booklets where you pick the scent by multiple choice. I was frustrated. I didn’t think I got any right. There are probably hundreds of scents like musk, smoke, lime, etc.) My smell was very abnormal. I had no idea. I knew that I had little appetite. I have lost almost 90 pounds since covid! On purpose mostly. But it wasn’t difficult, since my taste was off too. The constant bad taste started metallic, turned bitter. Food tasted ok, but bitter taste was and is constant. He diagnosed me with Post Covid Syndrome and waited on other tests results from neurologist (private office), like MRI (had neuropathy symptoms, but he said no neuropathy). First neuro only said smell/taste issue is tough. That’s it. Found nothing wrong. Didn’t test B12 because I had taken some supplements, but not enough. It was missed.

Then months later, I saw second neuro (Duke) by a fluke! Saved my life. He did extensive review of records, neurological exam, (2 exams that day as his assistant did the tests too). Based on my symptoms and original B12 level, he diagnosed me with deficiency and suspects it has caused me a lot of my symptoms, including the smell/taste, rashes, burning skin, stinging skin, numbness, constipation, hair loss, etc. But, he still wants me evaluated for Sjogrens, so he’s monitoring me as I see the Rheumatologist next week.
All of these current specialists are with Duke.

The doctors don’t know for sure what caused my issues, however, whether it’s B12 or covid dissipation, I have seen improvement!

My return to ENT last month was Incredible! I retook the smell test and my score was dramatically better! I could tell how much better it was. I scored really good. He was shocked! We don’t know why that happened. I could tell my taste is better too, because my weight loss has slowed and I struggle to limit food because it’s so delicious! But, the bitter taste remains 24/7…….☹️

I’m so glad people on this site encouraged me to advocate for myself. I can’t imagine where I’d be if I hadn’t gotten that second opinion from the neurologist at Duke. He talks to me like he cares and I have no doubt he’s giving his all to help me.

Good luck everybody. This is a stressful condition. I’m seeing a therapist. It helps.

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May I inquire what the smell test is that your ENT had you take? I’ve seen an ENT, more than once and no smell test was even discussed! I told him I can’t smell much of anything and maybe that was enough for him. You mentioned your B12 symptoms were no smell/taste/rashes, burning skin, stinging skin, numbness, constipation, hair loss, those are all symptoms of Hashimoto’s/Hypothyroidism, which I have. Have you had your Thyroid Levels checked as well? You could also have a low thyroid. I will be looking into taking Vitamin B12. Thank you for posting this and I wish you continued good health and healing.

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@lkirnbauer

May I inquire what the smell test is that your ENT had you take? I’ve seen an ENT, more than once and no smell test was even discussed! I told him I can’t smell much of anything and maybe that was enough for him. You mentioned your B12 symptoms were no smell/taste/rashes, burning skin, stinging skin, numbness, constipation, hair loss, those are all symptoms of Hashimoto’s/Hypothyroidism, which I have. Have you had your Thyroid Levels checked as well? You could also have a low thyroid. I will be looking into taking Vitamin B12. Thank you for posting this and I wish you continued good health and healing.

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Please get your B12 checked before taking any. Taking it skews the result. This is according to my neurologist, who’s ordered thatvI take 1000 mcg daily with sublingual tablets. My body doesn’t absorb it well, so it’s sublingual or injections. I’ve done both. I’ll take it indefinitely according to my neurologist. It takes a long time to restore the body.

I have hypothyroidism, take medication and have my thyroid level checked regularly. It’s been ok for many years with meds, but I will mention it again when I see the rheumatologist next week. Thanks for the info. I also had constipation, but that has cleared since I started B12 treatment.

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@lkirnbauer

I’m glad you’re beginning to heal! If I may ask, how much B12 are you taking and what brand is it? I’m taking a lot of supplements and my multivitamin has B12 in it (100 mcg). What dosage did your doctor recommend for you?

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I take sublingual or fast under the tongue dissolve or injections. I’ve done both. I take 1000 mcg per day….indefinitely. Once low it takes months to restore the body according to my neurologist.

I buy whatever brand is on sale at Walgreens.

Test before you take any, according to my neurologist. He went by my initial test, not the one taken later.

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The smell test are booklets with scratch and sniff samples. They have multiple choice options for various scents like bananas, lime, musk, pizza, etc. It’s quite lengthy. Your total score indicates if your smell is abnormal and mine was very low and abnormal. Nine months later, I scored substantially higher and did very well. Now normal smell.

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I had a terrible case of covid in Sept 2023. It was over a month before I fully recovered. I had had 8 vaccines, but this was the sickest I felt in my life.
I lost my taste and smell. It is now August of 2024, almost a year, and I have very little taste and smell return. I cannot even taste or smell many foods.
Terribly frustrating! I was told it is a side effect of Covid and these senses should return. There is no permanent cure for it. Just a wait and see.
I hope we all can return to some sense of normal taste and smell.

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@celia16

Please get your B12 checked before taking any. Taking it skews the result. This is according to my neurologist, who’s ordered thatvI take 1000 mcg daily with sublingual tablets. My body doesn’t absorb it well, so it’s sublingual or injections. I’ve done both. I’ll take it indefinitely according to my neurologist. It takes a long time to restore the body.

I have hypothyroidism, take medication and have my thyroid level checked regularly. It’s been ok for many years with meds, but I will mention it again when I see the rheumatologist next week. Thanks for the info. I also had constipation, but that has cleared since I started B12 treatment.

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Thank you so much for the information you provided regarding Vitamin B12. I have never, at least that I know of, had a B12 test. What is involved in testing for B12? I’m beginning to wonder if having hypothyroidism has something to do with loosing our taste/smell. I met someone last year on vacation that was gaining weight fast, as I was, and had lost her taste/smell as well with Covid. She was also diagnosed with hypothyroidism. As we know, hypothyroidism slows our systems down, so could be the reason it’s taking so long to come back. I’m guessing at this point, but it makes sense to me.

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@lkirnbauer

Thank you so much for the information you provided regarding Vitamin B12. I have never, at least that I know of, had a B12 test. What is involved in testing for B12? I’m beginning to wonder if having hypothyroidism has something to do with loosing our taste/smell. I met someone last year on vacation that was gaining weight fast, as I was, and had lost her taste/smell as well with Covid. She was also diagnosed with hypothyroidism. As we know, hypothyroidism slows our systems down, so could be the reason it’s taking so long to come back. I’m guessing at this point, but it makes sense to me.

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My primary ordered the B12 blood test. You can get one at a lab I think without a prescription, but it’s important to get medical advice, because adequately treating any deficiency is vital. It’s not like I thought.

Figuring out the cause of the symptoms isn’t all that easy. That’s why I’ve seen my primary, neurologist, Endocrinologist, ENT and soon to see Rheumatologist. The cause can be illusive. It can be autoimmune, Covid, Vitamin deficiency, combo or something else. It’s very frustrating.

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