Ivermectin for Prostate Cancer? (Being studied)

Posted by tvz @tvz, Apr 7, 2024

I am 54 and have Gleason 3+4 in 8% of one lobe. My PSA rose from 8.1 to 9.6 in the past 6 months. I’ve heard Ivermectin has potential to slow growth of cancer cells. Has anyone tried IVM or any other medication that has been shown to slow growth?

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Yes, even talk to your doctor *first*. I don't know if any related drugs are in human trials yet, but getting into a trial is the only safe way you could take one right now. Please, everyone, don't try to self-medicate with untested doses and formulations. You're working so hard to fight prostate cancer, and you don't want to throw all that away on a wild gamble.

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This is a very challenging issue in general, validating the use of repurposed drugs for treating X, much less for treating potentially advanced PCa. Why? Few medical professionals are willing to risk their reputations and sometimes careers to "swim upstream" against the medical establishment. It is generally against the interests of pharma and the medical establishment (AMA, NIH, FDA, etc) to pursue expensive trials to scientifically prove or disprove their efficacy. There is literally no money in it for them. So I personally admire those who go against the mainstream in medical issues like COVID vaccination, repurposing cheap drugs for serious illnesses, and so on.

This is an intriguing recent interview with one of those physicians, an oncologic surgeon, who is heading up an effort to develop some scientific evidence that ivermectin or similar meds have some efficacy against certain types of cancers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EcIurkanQg

I would also note that the STAMPEDE Platform -- called a platform instead of a trial because it is designed as an on-going, evolutionary series of trials -- is testing some repurposed drugs for their efficacy against prostate cancer. The most recent I read of was them randomizing recently for a trial of adding metformin to SOC versus SOC. Of course metformin is not a cancer drug, it's used to treat diabetes and metabolic syndrome.

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@northoftheborder

Yes, even talk to your doctor *first*. I don't know if any related drugs are in human trials yet, but getting into a trial is the only safe way you could take one right now. Please, everyone, don't try to self-medicate with untested doses and formulations. You're working so hard to fight prostate cancer, and you don't want to throw all that away on a wild gamble.

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Totally agree. I went through something similar when our dog developed lymphoma last year and we tried ivermectin based on the success of a single trial. Our vet disagreed but we went and tried it anyway for a while. It didn’t slow the growth and lessened the quality of her life while she was on it.

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@russ777

This is a very challenging issue in general, validating the use of repurposed drugs for treating X, much less for treating potentially advanced PCa. Why? Few medical professionals are willing to risk their reputations and sometimes careers to "swim upstream" against the medical establishment. It is generally against the interests of pharma and the medical establishment (AMA, NIH, FDA, etc) to pursue expensive trials to scientifically prove or disprove their efficacy. There is literally no money in it for them. So I personally admire those who go against the mainstream in medical issues like COVID vaccination, repurposing cheap drugs for serious illnesses, and so on.

This is an intriguing recent interview with one of those physicians, an oncologic surgeon, who is heading up an effort to develop some scientific evidence that ivermectin or similar meds have some efficacy against certain types of cancers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EcIurkanQg

I would also note that the STAMPEDE Platform -- called a platform instead of a trial because it is designed as an on-going, evolutionary series of trials -- is testing some repurposed drugs for their efficacy against prostate cancer. The most recent I read of was them randomizing recently for a trial of adding metformin to SOC versus SOC. Of course metformin is not a cancer drug, it's used to treat diabetes and metabolic syndrome.

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It's great that there's research ongoing on meds related to Ivermectin, and that some oncologists are advocating for even more. But it's important to remember that reliable scientific evidence doesn't exist yet, and if it does eventually emerge, the effective dosage, formulations, and indications/contra-indications could be dramatically different from what people are (dangerously) trying to self-dose with right now.

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@northoftheborder

It's great that there's research ongoing on meds related to Ivermectin, and that some oncologists are advocating for even more. But it's important to remember that reliable scientific evidence doesn't exist yet, and if it does eventually emerge, the effective dosage, formulations, and indications/contra-indications could be dramatically different from what people are (dangerously) trying to self-dose with right now.

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I agree with you. However I do have some Ivermectin. Not enough to be sufficient but hopefully enough to have an impact. I know it’s safe to take and the the studies I’ve read say that Ivermectin works well in conjunction with other treatments.

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@dannos

I agree with you. However I do have some Ivermectin. Not enough to be sufficient but hopefully enough to have an impact. I know it’s safe to take and the the studies I’ve read say that Ivermectin works well in conjunction with other treatments.

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Thank you for your reply, and I acknowledge that in the end, we all have the final say over our own treatment.

Have you had a chance to inform your oncologist, family doctor, and phamacist that you're taking Ivermectin, so that they can help watch for bad reactions or conflicts with other treatments?

There are special databases they use to detect potentially-dangerous interactions (there are thousands of combinations, more than anyone can possibly memorise), and they can add Ivermectin to your screening list even though they didn't prescribe it.

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Thank you for this post, I just ordered some Fenben 222 from Amazon. Gets here tomorrow and I’ll start right away. I just got a call from the x clinic for my first consultation meeting on September 10. By that time I would have completed the protocol and will have them compare my numbers.

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@northoftheborder

Thank you for your reply, and I acknowledge that in the end, we all have the final say over our own treatment.

Have you had a chance to inform your oncologist, family doctor, and phamacist that you're taking Ivermectin, so that they can help watch for bad reactions or conflicts with other treatments?

There are special databases they use to detect potentially-dangerous interactions (there are thousands of combinations, more than anyone can possibly memorise), and they can add Ivermectin to your screening list even though they didn't prescribe it.

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I’m keeping my GP informed of all my actions. I have a phone appointment with her in about a week and will tell her.

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Good job , let us know how things go . Yes , always let your GP know about what your taking . You never know what 'professionals' will say about your foods, pills, and natural healing medications you are taking . I check with mine yesterday ( was in there for a chat and a anti inflammatory shot in R.shoulder . He said Some of his patients have taken it and in most cases it has been well tolerated and reduced PSA . He said I dont know if it makes PSA tests look better or is reducing PC load . But he said for me , I could take without any issues . For you , that what you have to get word on . Thats the thing with Canadian medical care . No charge , not even a deductible . About 5 years ago we paid a special health tax to get covered ( about 300/year) . Now thats gone too - last election promise . Our health care is mainly supported by taxes , not that 300 charge per year . It was like a tax on tax 🙂 . James on Vancouver Island . PS- let us know what your doctors says and if you take it and results .

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@dannos

I’m keeping my GP informed of all my actions. I have a phone appointment with her in about a week and will tell her.

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100% what your suppose to do - ALWAYS check with your Dr. before starting new stuff. Some doctors may be even eager for you to try non pharma products .... On Vancouver Island we get the "organic" crowd . So many Dr's here will have complimentary natural medicine ideas for you . In Canada or health care is not perfect , however we get good solid care . I have a brand new HUGE hospital with two helicopter landing pads on top . All build by us , the tax payers . Its freaking huge ! Way bigger that our two cities needed . Built for the future load of patients I gather !? They have subsidized food there too . I went there for an Ultra sound one morning and had breakfast and coffee for 2.00 CAD . Gezzz , that was something I was not expecting . James on Vancouver Island

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