Chronic severe nocturnal hypnic headaches
I am looking for anyone else who has been diagnosed and treated for chronic, severe nocturnal hypnic headaches. I have had them for about 12 years, and on treatment, but not optimal treatment. I am interested in hearing how others with this rare diagnosis are being told to treat them safely.
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I too suffer from hypnic headaches, self diagnosed. I first experienced these headaches at 44 and am now 56. My experiences are similar to others on this board, so to cut to the quick, I should have stock in generic caffeine pills! I take 100 mg a night and for most nights experience no pain. However, I may wake about 2:00 with a slight headache, take another 50 mg (as best estimated due to cutting pills), and sleep sound after that. Any morning that I do wake with a headache, it is mild compared to my pre-caffeine days. I have also found I can eliminate any remaining pain with a run.
I read a white paper by a researcher in Brazil who thinks there is a connection between hypnic headaches and too much adenosine being produced by the body. Considering how quickly I fall asleep at night, I find this plausible. Adenosine is a sleep hormone and too much of it apparently can cause blood vessels to dilate, causing the pain. Caffeine fits the same receptors as the adenosine and thus blocks the adenosine. Either way, there is much work to be done and I would participate in research trials if something were close to Michigan.
Hi, @taterjoy -- thinking of you and wondering how it's going with the nocturnal hypnic headaches?
Hello. I’m new here and have been taking in the great conversations of this sight. But on this subject I had to reply. Migraines were a continual fact of my life. I have tried so many of the therapies mentioned on this thread. Some of the triptans were somewhat helpful but never totally successful. I had a course of Sphenopalatine Ganglion Blocks, Botox, but nothing worked. Somehow they eventually turned into “alarm clock” (hypnic) headaches. I was prescribed Verapamil but this caused heart issues.
I then moved to Atlanta and started going to Emory. I found a solution. They gave me a “Greater Occipital Nerve Block”. This isn’t a cure but a relief. I received 2 shots in the back of my neck where the Occipital nerves begin and spread across the brain. I HAVE NOT HAD A HEADACHE SINCE!!
You’re describing my life Gussie. I’m so sorry for you and so depressed for us both. I don’t think I can live with this pain for years. Every night is torture.
I’m in bed right now awake at 3:45 am waiting for a horrible hypnic headache to pass. The pain is extreme and I know everyone here understands completely. I have taken my caffeine and am waiting patiently and trying not to cry. This has been happening now every single night for weeks and each week the pain ratchets up a notch. The neurologists at my regional Headache Clinic confirm that this is hypnic headache although sometimes a migraine piggybacks on it. While caffeine and Imitrex eventually help, taking them every night has destroyed my waking life too since after taking caffeine I’m wide awake and grinding my teeth for the next four hours. This cycle happens every single day. Excruciating pain followed by upset stomach ,
drowsiness and depression. If this is my new normal then it’s time to research suicide because this quality of life is not sustainable for me. I’ll obviously think hard and consult a psychiatric specialist before taking any kind of action but if this severe daily pain is a permanent condition I don’t want to grind on for decades. I can’t imagine what it would be like to have this unbearable pain and also suffer from dementia. It could explain the patients screaming in nursing homes. Perhaps they are in the middle of a horrific migraine and no one knows or cares. I watched my beautiful mother—a triathlete who developed Alzheimer’s — weeping and thrashing in her bed, unable to speak and clearly suffering. The nursing staff couldn’t figure out what she was experiencing so just gave her Ambien. But what if it was acute migraine? Please god no one should suffer like that. Being trapped in this pain with no hope or help is my deepest fear. Doctors are sympathetic but in the end they DON’T know how you feel and can go home and forget about you. Which of course they do. It’s human nature. I’m realizing that ultimately the reality of a life dominated by pain will not be sustainable for me. Lots to think about.
Hi, @patiencepie - I can see the extreme pain with the hypnic headaches you are experiencing throughout your words about it. I hear that this quality of life is not sustainable for you.
Hoping members in this discussion here like @leamm @so4tune8 @bernese53 @taterjoy @kdubois and @dawn_giacabazi will return and offer some insights on your situation with the horrible pain and then the medications destroying your waking life.
Have you gotten to talk to your neurologist at your regional headache clinic in the last couple days about how excruciating your pain is, how your waking life is affected and how the reality of life dominated by pain is not seeming doable for you?
@patiencepie I did not have hypnic headaches but I did have very severe migraines that lasted 3 days, occasionally four, once or twice a month, coinciding with ovulation and menstruation. As with you, the pain was excruciating. I too was desperate. Back then we didn't have the internet (my migraines finally stopped about 15 years ago, so I researched everywhere I could -- the library, reading books in bookstores, everything. I read somewhere that most migraine sufferers know more about them than most doctors do, unless the doctor is a real specialist, and I believe it.
One of the things I remember reading about is rebound headaches. Is it possible that the medications you are taking could be causing them? Your body gets so adjusted to the medications that when they wear off it all starts all over again, if I recall correctly, and it sounds as if that's what's happening to you.
I hope you can find a real specialist, a doctor who knows the absolute most about these headaches. I was fortunate that mine were never more than two times a month, but even that made my life miserable, it was impossible to plan ahead for anything. I did have some lesser, more manageable, headaches in between the migraines, more like minor migraines, brought on by certain foods. The two worst foods were raw onions and chocolate. I could eat white chocolate but not regular.
I will be thinking of you and hoping for you to find relief from your pain. My daughter goes through this now with migraines but often the current medications can give her some help although they do not seem to totally take the pain away, there is a lingering lesser pain. When she is going through one she often calls me, knowing I can sympathize and of course I feel terrible when she does, knowing exactly what she is feeling.
JK
I began getting morning headaches at 55 for the first time with the beginning of menopause that were easy to cure with my morning coffee and getting up.I eat well exersize,am happy and relaxed.Later I got the classic 2 or 3 am headaches, that only Excedrin would cure.They progressed to nightly and with more pain.I noticed a monthly cycle that matches the moon with regards to the intensity.
Even though I am post menopausal now at 60, they have not gone away. I tried 3 preventative drugs with no response , accupuncture and every supplement possible. I was first diagnosed with cronic Migraines but now they label me with a Hypnic Headache. I think my circadian rythmn is off from lack of sleep and hot flashes as well as many trips overseas.I sleep better with eye shades.Recently I tried a caffeine pills before bed and melatonin.So far it's working and I am glad to be off Excedrin.Time to give my stomach a rest. I even feel less bloated and swollen from the improvement with inflammation.Crossing my fingers it continues for a whole month.
I would love to connect with anyone else who is studying this too.
@meme59 glad to hear you are finally getting some relief. When I had migraines caffeine did help too, and back then it did not interfere with my sleep. Now it does.
JK
I am a 62 year old female in otherwise excellent health at 5’5”, 120lbs. I exercise regularly and have a decent diet. I began experiencing hypnic headaches the end of August 2018. They began waking me every few nights with severe pain in left side of head only. I tried Zomig which I have on hand for occasional migraines but it did nothing. I would sit and hold an ice pack to my head for hours, and start drinking coffee. Doctor put me on Amitriptyline and scheduled an MRI but couldn’t get in for weeks. She also prescribed a strong pain med that didn’t help. They got so severe after the first few weeks and woke me every night about 2:30 that we finally went to the emergency room. They did 3 different MRI’s and a CAT scan which ruled out our worst fears. Met with neurologists, and luckily found this post one night while up with pain and desperately seeking answers. My neurologist confirmed the Hypnic headache classification. I began taking Melatonin, along with Amitriptyline which disrupted the regularity of the headaches but did not stop them. Found caffeine and exedrin migraine help the pain per suggestions found here. The neurologist added Topomax as a preventative. Although the headaches became less frequent and somewhat less severe, the side effects of the medication left me shaky, cloudy thinking, and feeling pretty awful most of the time. I went to a chiropractor too since I do have back and neck issues, and while he helped those issues it had no effect on the headaches. However, I had discontinued estrogen therapy several months ago and thought this could be related. After having a hysterectomy at 52, I had started bio-identical estrogen therapy which greatly reduced the number of migraines I was getting pre-menopausal. I started estrogen patches at a lower dose last week and began weaning myself off the other meds. I haven’t been awakened by a headache since and am down to 5mg Melatonin (from 12mg) completely off the Topomax and only took 1/4 of the 50mg Amitriptyline last night. I feel so much better today I’m beside myself. I will keep you posted if anything changes. I wanted to share this since your suggestions helped me through such a terrible and frightening time.