Whole Body Vibration for Osteoporosis

Posted by jmanj @jmanj, Jun 24, 2021

I’m looking into Whole Body Vibration to aid in bone building for osteoporosis. I’ve read that Low Intensity Vibration is better than high intensity. Does anyone have any experience with this?

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Posted by Belinda Beck's Bone Clinic:

The next stop was Long Island where I stayed with the fabulous (and quite frankly, legendary in the world of mechanical loading of bone) Professor Clint Rubin and his wonderful wife Jenni. Clint and I spent a couple of days working on our data from the VIBMOR trial. For those who are anxiously awaiting the results of that trial examining the effects of vibration on bone and other risk factors for fracture, it will be a little while yet as we pore through many, many outcomes. Trust me, when we have results I will disseminate widely, including here.

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@babs10

Posted by Belinda Beck's Bone Clinic:

The next stop was Long Island where I stayed with the fabulous (and quite frankly, legendary in the world of mechanical loading of bone) Professor Clint Rubin and his wonderful wife Jenni. Clint and I spent a couple of days working on our data from the VIBMOR trial. For those who are anxiously awaiting the results of that trial examining the effects of vibration on bone and other risk factors for fracture, it will be a little while yet as we pore through many, many outcomes. Trust me, when we have results I will disseminate widely, including here.

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About 16 years ago my husband fell, causing multiple breaks in his humorous. He had 2 rods inserted for some stability, but was told that it would be likely he would need plate and screws installed. He was also given a machine that created micro-vibrations, which he used several times a day. The bone healed without further ado in the regularly expected time of healing and he has had no problem with it since. Note - he did not have osteoporosis, just the break.

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@babs10

Posted by Belinda Beck's Bone Clinic:

The next stop was Long Island where I stayed with the fabulous (and quite frankly, legendary in the world of mechanical loading of bone) Professor Clint Rubin and his wonderful wife Jenni. Clint and I spent a couple of days working on our data from the VIBMOR trial. For those who are anxiously awaiting the results of that trial examining the effects of vibration on bone and other risk factors for fracture, it will be a little while yet as we pore through many, many outcomes. Trust me, when we have results I will disseminate widely, including here.

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Based on what Belinda Beck said at Margie Bissinger's Bone Health Summit a few months ago, the VIBMOR study lacked proper oversight and was not well-executed. Also, IMHO, a well-planned study does not have many, many outcomes. It sounds like from Beck's post that Rubin and she are motivated (desperate?) to salvage the flawed study. It will be interesting to see what results they disseminate widely.

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@babs10

@trixiegirl, I did Onero online for a few months, but I didn't care for it and I think it's because they keep you doing the exact same things for either 2 or 3 months before you can advance and it's nothing like what they do in the gym with weights. I'm sure many love it. I didn't get this far, but you can watch this for an idea of the exercises and yes, you can definitely cancel at any time. https://onero.online/

For myself, I really like Brick House Bones on YouTube with Lisa Moore, DPT. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgPe7PS6flPwbaBmUhPulj3-aqiSH9R-V

I've also read many positives about Margaret Martin, also on YouTube.

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Hi babs10: I am reviewing posts and realize I never checked out this link for Lisa Moore! Wow! She’s good! Thank you for sharing this link! I also like Margaret Martin. 🙏😍

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Please keep us posted on this effort to review VIBMOR study. Thank you!

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@tetris

Based on what Belinda Beck said at Margie Bissinger's Bone Health Summit a few months ago, the VIBMOR study lacked proper oversight and was not well-executed. Also, IMHO, a well-planned study does not have many, many outcomes. It sounds like from Beck's post that Rubin and she are motivated (desperate?) to salvage the flawed study. It will be interesting to see what results they disseminate widely.

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I would have more confidence in a study where the results were tabulated by an independent person rather than the one having the most at stake.

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@trixiegirl

Hi babs10: I am reviewing posts and realize I never checked out this link for Lisa Moore! Wow! She’s good! Thank you for sharing this link! I also like Margaret Martin. 🙏😍

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@trixiegirl, she really is great. I like every single thing about her.

It's SO easy to miss posts on this very active and wonderful forum. Glad you found her!

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@tetris

Based on what Belinda Beck said at Margie Bissinger's Bone Health Summit a few months ago, the VIBMOR study lacked proper oversight and was not well-executed. Also, IMHO, a well-planned study does not have many, many outcomes. It sounds like from Beck's post that Rubin and she are motivated (desperate?) to salvage the flawed study. It will be interesting to see what results they disseminate widely.

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@tetris I'm not sure how to say this nicely but I disagree strongly with the content and tone of your comments about Belinda Beck and the VIBMOR study. I've been following Belinda Beck's work for years now and I'm very impressed with the quality of her studies and the light she and her co-workers are shedding on exercise's effects on bone health. Really important work. BTW, I read her studies as I feel they are that important and useful.
The VIBMOR study has not been released yet so I cannot comment on what it will say but in her interviews she has been very honest and forthright about a result she did not anticipate. That being that the low intensity vibration had no detectable effect on bone density. It's not what she expected or what she wanted to be found but she is openly stating that this is what the data is showing. Her only qualifications are that the analysis and publication has not been completed.

For the vibration to be unsuccessful is not a failure of the study. As to it being flawed she listed one mistake that the exercise intensity was not done at 85% of the 1 rep max as was used in the other studies they conducted. Neither she nor Margie Bissinger stated or concluded that it was therefore a "flawed study" as you categorize it to be.
Your insinuations that " that Rubin and she are motivated (desperate?) to salvage the flawed study." is just wild conjecture, nothing more.
If she was trying to hide something I don't think she would be doing interviews and broadcasting results that, according to you, she is desperately trying to hide.

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@normahorn

I would have more confidence in a study where the results were tabulated by an independent person rather than the one having the most at stake.

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I agree!

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Check out Osteoboost - the vibration belt that has been approved by FDA for osteopenia. No idea of when it will hit the market. I saw one projected cost of under $1k. The advantage being one can wear it while going for a walk, dusting, rtc.

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