Chronic Buttock Pain
I will do my best to keep this brief, but it is a long story. I have had pain in my buttocks, sometimes hips, groin, sacral area for 5 months, along with tingling in both legs and feet. The pain is most intense in the intergluteal cleft, the area where pressure is applied while sitting. My entire buttock region is sensitive to pressure. The pain in the sacral area comes and goes, and is best described as a burning pain. The majority of symptoms are on my left, but are also on the right side. The groin pain is most often "flashes" of burning.
My first diagnosis was hemorrhoids since the first symptom was burning bowel movements. The burning bowel movements stopped, but then the other buttock pain intensified. In mid January, I had x-rays of my pelvis taken.
"Mild osteophytosis and sclerosis of the SI joints suggesting mild osteoarthritis. There is mild to moderate multilevel degenerative disc disease and facet arthropathy of the lumbar spine most prominent from L4-S1."
The pain started to really focus on a specific spot on my left buttock. It even hurt to just gently rub my finger against.
When I would sit in a car, especially driving, my legs tingle quite severely and the burning pain in my sacrum intensifies. (this also happened when I lay on my back)
By Feb 17, I thought maybe it was ischial bursitis. My doctor prescribed me a short course of steroids, but no change. The next step was MRIs of my pelvis and lumbar region.
IMPRESSION: * At L5-S1, right central disc protrusion deforms the anterior thecal sac and may contact the traversing right S1 nerve root, but the nerve root is not displaced. * At L4-5, posterior annular tear and central disc protrusion are superimposed on circumferential disc bulge. Although this deforms the anterior thecal sac, there is no obvious neural impingement. * L3-4 posterior annular tear and circumferential disc bulge. No neural impingement.
The radiating nerve irritation is on the inside of my thigh, near where the inseam of a pant leg would be, but maybe a little farther on the back of the leg. Sometimes it will go beneath the knee. My ankles have been burning some as well. My feet are often cold.
It was getting to the point where the only position I could be comfortable is laying down. And the only time I could fully escape the pain was during sleep.
On Feb 27, my doctor (nurse practitioner) is stumped and started questioning whether the pain is mental. I ask if we can explore PT, and he refers me. He did note the disc degeneration in my MRI and said he could refer me to a pain management doctor for local injections. I have no idea how that process works and decide to proceed with the PT.
At this time, he had me try Cymbalta but I am pretty certain that it caused some severe insomnia so I stopped taking it after a few days. I was pretty stressed at this time due to an upcoming colonoscopy. The NP continued to question whether this was anxiety or psychosomatic. I had to start taking sleep aids.
PT started on Mar 8. I was excited to get in front of someone who knew more details of the nerves/muscles/spine, and someone who would listen to me. Upon evaluation for the severe pain in the spot in my left buttock, the PT determined that the connection of my hamstring to my pelvis had become frayed or damaged. Certain actions of my hamstring triggered intense pain. We started exercises that focused on the hamstring. We talked about some of the tingling but didn't really address it much. He thought it may have been due to the lack of sleep.
The PT was definitely helping the intense pain spot. I do not recall the level of pain in the rest of the buttock area.
My colonoscopy was on Mar 14 and the results were fine. The few days after this was the only time since late December that I actually felt normal. Then, on Mar 18, I started having neck pain. My PT could not help me with the neck issue at this time since the order was for the buttock pain. Sleep is the only place I could fully escape, so I started sleeping A LOT. At certain times of the day, after I have been upright for a time, I would just have this "sinking" feeling like my entire spine was collapsing. I tried heat, NSAIDs, Apsercreme, nothing really worked well.
Mar 29 was the last day of PT for the specific spot on my buttock. PT performed the same actions as on day 1 and the pain in that spot was no longer triggered. I visited a doctor about my neck. He felt my neck and said that I felt tight (and was sore) on the left side. He said to try more naproxen or ibuprofen. I mentioned the seat and leg pain, and he said to try the gabapentin at night again. I told him my PT said he could help if I had a new order, but he would want x-rays since I told him I knew my neck as deformed (I have autofused vertebrae from birth).
During this time, my neck was my biggest misery, with the other issues still present.
I messaged my doctor again and asked about the buttock and leg issues. He said he could refer me to pain management for injections in my back. I asked him if the assumption then was that this leg tingling is related to my back and he said "he feels that is most likely the cause". I then asked if it would make sense to talk to someone in ortho/neuro about my MRI and symptoms before pursuing the injections.I was referred to an Ortho. While making the appointment, I had to choose what area I wanted to treat.
At that time, my neck was most bothersome, so I started there. During the first visit, I did not see the doctor, but an NP. We looked at my imaging and talked about my neck, the autofused vertebrae, the disc degeneration. I asked some questions about my buttock issue. She suggested that maybe it was an SI joint issue and once again, it was suggested that I visit pain management for injections. She said we could try Celebrex to see if that helped any first. She tested my reflexes and since I was hyperreflexive, ordered a neck MRI and follow up. Two weeks later, I had the MRI and follow-up, this time with the doctor. The issue in my buttocks had intensified, and the neck pain was more intermittent. The doctor said I was not a candidate for surgery on my neck and was experiencing what millions of others are experiencing regarding disc degeneration. He asked what I had tried so far. I said just OTC NSAIDs. He said the next step is PT. As is typical, he was very rushed and I tried to ask questions about my buttock pain, but was not really allowed to get into as much depth as I would have liked. In the end, he added the "lumbar" issue to my PT order.
I started PT again last week. Even after just two sessions, my neck is quite a bit better. I had some very tight muscles in my shoulder region that he was able to loosen up, and has been doing some very light manual traction. He did some provocative tests on my SI, and while not conclusive, there were some results that pointed to an issue. He said that he has only treated SI joint issues a handful of times, and did not think that they often were accompanied with the leg nerve pain. He gave me an SI belt yesterday and said that I should start noticing a difference by the end of the night. I have been wearing it since, and really have not noticed much change yet. It does seem to make me more stable while walking, but the buttock pain while sitting, and at least some level of tingling is still there. I am trying to give it time, even though he said the impact should be noticeable quickly. Honestly, he seems stumped. I trust him very much, and he seems dedicated to trying to help me, but he wants to go down the path of the source just being sitting too much, and I do not think that is the case. I have made an appointment with another PT in town that offers a free consultation to get his take. I have also made an appointment with a massage therapist.
The Celebrex does not seem to be doing anything.
I have been trying to get some clarification from the ortho NP who talked to me the most about my buttocks, but the office is very slow to reply and I only get replies from the nurse assistant and don't even know if my questions are being seen by the NP.
As much as I hate needles, I am not opposed to injections, if we know what needs to be injected. But I would prefer to FIX the issue rather than cover it up. I did get a referral to Pain Management but have not had an appointment set yet.
The last 5 months have been miserable. I am not performing to the level I should be at work or home. I am thankful that I work from home and have flexibility. It is still the worst while driving and I rarely go anywhere anymore. I have missed out on so much, including time with my family. I am wiped out by 5:00 pm and am often in bed by 7:00 or 8:00. Relief from the neck pain is helping, but I cannot escape the buttock pain.
Can anyone provide any insight? Does this sound like an issue with my SI joint? Could those protrusions mentioned on my MRI be the issue? I am so desperate for answers I don't know where to go.
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I’m fortunate and blessed with a healthy wife 76, 52 years married.
I have requested a date for surgery and am waiting to hear.
Working on exercises to strengthen the core.
Need a EMG for carpel tunnel on left hand, next.
Be well and keep the faith you are in my prayers.
Tony
I did the surgery, carpal tunnel on both wrists. Successfully. Wasn't so bad esp compared to what we go thru here. Best of luck. I'm working on three trigger fingers! We have complex bodies. 👍🏼😁
Thank you
Tony
Thank you that’s helpful
@bebold
I got my hip MRI report back today! I have gluteal tendinopathy and high grade hamstring partial tears on both right and left hips!!! Explains a lot of the pain that is NOT tied to my lumbar spine! I’m not sure what causes this and when but no doctor EVER suggested looking at my hips! Since I have had this pain for some time, I may need debridement surgery to repair the long standing tears and then PT. Some sites suggest PT may be enough but when I read a report from Massachusetts General Hospital, it mentioned that long term tears may do better with surgery then PT. I will go back to the Orthopedic doctor and see what they suggest as next steps. I believe an orthopedic surgeon can repair the hamstring tears but wonder if they would have to do them separately or if they can do them at the same time.
Did you find relief? An answer?
I had alot of the same issues. I had the buttocks pain which really, really caused me distress. After many tests, meds, PT etc, my pain management Doctor(for other reasons) found a PT that specialized in pelvic floor therapy. This therapist was amazing and helped so very much, some of the therapies are quite stranged, but it worked. I have had no further issues. I do sit at my job all day, and I am a female who has had children, and complete hysterectomy (nothing left in there) I don't know if you are male or female, but my pelvic floor was very weak I guess. She did dry needling, massage, ultrasound therapy, etc. I dont know if any of this would help you, but you never know. I also invested in a very good office chair and cushion, did all the ergonomic adjustments and make sure I get up, walk around and stretch regularly also. The PT says that sitting all day is havoc on our entire bodies. Hope this helps, best of luck to you.
My husband has similar pelvic pain. He has constipation issues. From my observation, his pain problems correlate with days of not having bowel movements. This is only anecdotal. We plan to discuss with his doctor next visit. He currently uses Miralax (suggested by her) sporadically.
I’ve had chronic neck, lumbar, SI and buttock pain similar to yours my entire adult life. Diagnoses include EDS, Cervical Dystonia & spondylitis. Lumbar nerve ablation last year made my buttock pain completely go away (after a ridiculous number of decades of avoiding long trips, using standing desks etc).
My PCP recommended Magnesium Oxide for severe constipation. It helps. On days, where it is not bad, I do the Miralax.