Please help!! auto immune illness even w/ normal blood test results?

Posted by wonderwall12345 @wonderwall12345, Mar 10 1:29am

Hi everyone! I have joined this community in a desperate bid for answers or guidance that my doctors seem unwilling to give. I feel as though I am going crazy and am being made to feel like a drama queen for insisting things aren’t right.

For context: I am 32F. 5'8 / 173cm and 80-83 kg / 176-182 lbs. I am caucasian. All medication I take is included below. I drink 3-4 times per month. I do not smoke or use recreational drugs. I eat healthy but do not eliminate any particular food groups from my diet at present. I am British but live in Belgium currently.

Since I was a teenager I always had bad bloating and constipation which caused me discomfort but never impacted my health further. I grew up in an old house with black mould in some rooms, including my bedroom. I was told this could have impacted my health but was never given any further details on how to look into this.

**September 2022:** I had bad constipation (I didn’t go to the bathroom for nine days) and was hospitalised. They found I had mesenteric adenitis (which is apparently rare in adults) but no one ever explained what caused the constipation (or the mesenteric adenitis for that matter). They did take blood tests at the time and everything came back normal. This included tests for celiac, thyroid, lactose intolerance. (I have posted my four-page blood test results from September 2022 below - they were originally in French so I have run them through Google Translate in order to hopefully make them easier to understand).

**November 2022:** I had a colonoscopy - they said there was some inflammation in my bowel and I also had mesenteric panniculitis. The doctor said there was no treatment and I just had to wait for the pain in my stomach to stop, which it did in late December 2022. No one could tell me what was causing my bowel issues and constipation. I was advised to keep a food diary and try to assess if I was intolerant to anything, but the constipation seemed very random (I eat salads most days, but suddenly one day I would eat a salad and my stomach would bloat and I would become constipated).

**December 2022:** The stomach pain stopped, but then a few weeks later I developed a cough and chest infection that lasted over three months. Two rounds of antibiotics did nothing to resolve it. I had a chest x-ray which showed a little bit of irritation/inflammation but nothing more serious. I once again had standard blood tests, which came back normal. My doctor said it could have been the result of a weakened immune system due to the stomach illnesses mentioned above.

**Winter 2023:** On several occasions, I have caught a cold from my partner in recent months. He would be sick for a day or two, but it would knock me out for over a week and ALWAYS developed into a cough (even if my partner hadn’t had a cough). For the last 15 years, EVERY TIME I get a cold or normal seasonal sickness, my glands will swell up. Now, I have noticed that as well as my glands swelling up, I will ALWAYS develop a cough.

When I was with family over **Christmas 2023**, I was sick again with a bad cold and cough and also developed a rash around my eyes that felt like sun burn (photo below). This has happened several times since December 2023. There was no change in my skincare during this time.

**Other symptoms:**
-Always cold
-Digestive issues (constipated)
-Cannot lose weight - I am currently 80-82 kg and 173 cm (technically overweight). I aimed to lose weight, first eating 1600 calories per day, then 1400, now 1200 (balanced macros) and walked 10-15k steps per day. My weight DOES NOT shift.

-I have genital herpes, which flare up much more frequently than is normal. Because of this, my doctor put me on preventative treatment a few years ago which he said should get rid of it all together, but it resurfaced less than a month later. I am particularly susceptible around the time of my period. I currently take 800 mg of acyclovir whenever the herpes flares up (usually 1x per 1-2 months).

In the last few months I have noticed an increase in the following symptoms:
-fatigue
-body aches
-dizzy spells
-more painful period cramps and stomach pains
-puffy face

Note: many of these could be seasonal and linked to the colds I've had, but I thought they were worth mentioning just in case.

I am scheduled to see a doctor soon, but in the past, once my test results come back normal, they tend not to continue investigating, no matter what my symptoms continue to be.

Any guidance you can provide is greatly appreciated, I am completely lost and desperate for some advice that might help end this ordeal.

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I’m sorry you have been feeling unwell so long with no answers! I reviewed your photo and lab results. There are several tests that i think should be done in addition. Your TSH is upper limit of normal (< 3) and I would check anti thyroid antibodies to check for Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, an autoimmune condition common in women.
An autoimmune panel that checks for many AI disorders would be helpful. This would include ruling out lupus, mixed connective tissue disease, Sjogrens, and several others. Inflammation markers in the blood (sed rate and CRP) would be helpful in view of the mesenteric adenitis, swollen glands and eye inflammation seen in photo. Skeletal muscle enzymes (CK and aldolase) if you have muscle pain or weakness.
Have you ever had a colonoscopy? That can provide information about the chronic constipation, such as redundant (extra long ) colon or spasm in colon that occurs in irritable bowel syndrome.
The eye inflammation looks like panniculitis, an inflammation of soft tissue (can occur anywhere) but I would also wonder about heliotrope changes associated with dermatomyositis. These are both autoimmune as well. A rheumatologist would be the best physician to check these things but your primary care doctor could as well. You might want to show him/her your post here and the photo.
The prolonged cough with colds and respiratory infections sounds like bronchial spasm, which occurs in people who have a tendency toward asthma or bad allergies. I know this is a lot to digest and you will want to research about these suggestions. The thyroid problem, if present, is easy to treat. I think persistence will pay off and additional blood tests will provide clues. Let us know how this process goes.

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PS Since these blood tests were done a year and a half ago, the CBC, chemistry panel and thyroid tests should be repeated when you see the Dr soon. Also take more photos of any rashes you have.

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@slkanowitz

I’m sorry you have been feeling unwell so long with no answers! I reviewed your photo and lab results. There are several tests that i think should be done in addition. Your TSH is upper limit of normal (< 3) and I would check anti thyroid antibodies to check for Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, an autoimmune condition common in women.
An autoimmune panel that checks for many AI disorders would be helpful. This would include ruling out lupus, mixed connective tissue disease, Sjogrens, and several others. Inflammation markers in the blood (sed rate and CRP) would be helpful in view of the mesenteric adenitis, swollen glands and eye inflammation seen in photo. Skeletal muscle enzymes (CK and aldolase) if you have muscle pain or weakness.
Have you ever had a colonoscopy? That can provide information about the chronic constipation, such as redundant (extra long ) colon or spasm in colon that occurs in irritable bowel syndrome.
The eye inflammation looks like panniculitis, an inflammation of soft tissue (can occur anywhere) but I would also wonder about heliotrope changes associated with dermatomyositis. These are both autoimmune as well. A rheumatologist would be the best physician to check these things but your primary care doctor could as well. You might want to show him/her your post here and the photo.
The prolonged cough with colds and respiratory infections sounds like bronchial spasm, which occurs in people who have a tendency toward asthma or bad allergies. I know this is a lot to digest and you will want to research about these suggestions. The thyroid problem, if present, is easy to treat. I think persistence will pay off and additional blood tests will provide clues. Let us know how this process goes.

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Thank you so much - it actually makes me quite emotional to have someone provide solutions instead of telling me I'm fine. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it.

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Hello @wonderwall12345, Sorry to hear that you are struggling to get a diagnosis and find something that helps.
There is an older discussion that you might find helpful.
--- Chronic Illnesses of Millions of Women Left Untreated: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/chronic-illnesses-of-millions-of-women-left-untreated/.

You mentioned you have an upcoming doctors appointment. As mentioned by @slkanowitz you have posted a lot of your story here and it might be helpful to prioritize your symptoms and questions and plan your conversation with your doctor or care team. I thought you might find this information on the Patient Revolution website helpful:
--- Tools for the Healthcare Visit: https://www.patientrevolution.org/tools

Can you provide an update after your appointment?

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I see a need for complete testing for lupus with a rheumatologist. ANA, Anti DNA, Centromere, SSA,SSB.
Pictures of the rash if it recurs. Inflammatory markers
all need repeating. At some point you may have to do a
long trial of gluten free diet.

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I suggest you google images of heliotrope rash. You will see several pictures that are similar to your eye rash. A dermatologist should see this rash and a biopsy can be diagnostic along with the auto antibody blood tests done by a rheumatologist. Although this information may be disconcerting, it’s better than the total dismissal you have experienced and a diagnosis will be followed by treatment so you can feel better and stop wondering and worrying about what is wrong. I hope you get good cooperation with this investigation in a timely manner.

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A normal (max) TSH range is considered by doctors to be between 0.4 and 5.5. I have hypothyroid symptoms if my TSH numbers are above 2. With a thyroid stimulating hormone level of 3, my metabolism would be (has been) low enough that I had severe constipation, needed a starvation diet to control my weight, and had less energy. My last two doctors didn't believe me when I said I feel a lot better at a TSH of 1. My T3 and T4 numbers are normal even at 3 TSH so doctors tend to dismiss TSH. Irksome. I was finally able to nag my doctor to increase my synthroid. Regarding your abnormal GI results, did they look for microscopic collitis? I also have celiac disease so have your symptoms and more if I get glutened, but fine as long as I avoid the nasty wheat/rye/barley glutens. Consider an elimination diet and/or keeping a food log to see if you are sensitive to any foods. I also have to avoid NSAIDs and most legumes.

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@kayabbott

A normal (max) TSH range is considered by doctors to be between 0.4 and 5.5. I have hypothyroid symptoms if my TSH numbers are above 2. With a thyroid stimulating hormone level of 3, my metabolism would be (has been) low enough that I had severe constipation, needed a starvation diet to control my weight, and had less energy. My last two doctors didn't believe me when I said I feel a lot better at a TSH of 1. My T3 and T4 numbers are normal even at 3 TSH so doctors tend to dismiss TSH. Irksome. I was finally able to nag my doctor to increase my synthroid. Regarding your abnormal GI results, did they look for microscopic collitis? I also have celiac disease so have your symptoms and more if I get glutened, but fine as long as I avoid the nasty wheat/rye/barley glutens. Consider an elimination diet and/or keeping a food log to see if you are sensitive to any foods. I also have to avoid NSAIDs and most legumes.

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Wow, I was about to respond to Wonderwall, because we share a lot of common issues, including difficulty losing weight on another thread). I also have Type I diabetes and Hypothyroidism. I take Levothyroxine and have for years. I have suffered from chronic constipation since June 2022 and skin issues, though not on face. Am scheduled for diagnostic colonoscopy next month. Salads can constipate me. I take daily Metamucil and Miralax. I am scheduled with Rheumatologist in August for Sjogren’s eval. Tested negative for that and Celiac. I have other symptoms that have been attributed to post covid syndrome.

Did you have covid?

I’m searching for my latest thyroid test results. I’ve reviewed them with my primary and endo. Hmmmmm…..

Thanks to everyone for great tips on this thread.

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I caught covid last March and subsequent long covid that lasted for 8 months (mostly PEM). I was gluten intolerant for decades before H1N1 triggered celiac 14 years ago. Doctors never tested for celiac even with my symptoms (GI, bloating, skin rashes, inflamed lymph nodes, GERD, and others that went away once I went off gluten). The active ingredient in Metamucil is psyllium husk; it is a lot cheaper (and fewer ingredients) to buy that in bulk and add to drinks.

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I would research the autoimmune diet. I did that several years back and cutting out gluten made the biggest difference in my health and better results in my inflammation. It’s an easy thing to try before your doctor appointment and will give your doctor more information to help diagnose possibly.

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