Chronic kidney disease (CKD) & bone loss (osteoporosis)

Posted by benjamin8161 @benjamin8161, Mar 27, 2020

Just a general question i want to run by the group here. I am experiencing bone loss due to CKD. I am curious to know if anyone with stem cell therapy has any indication that if I were to get my kidneys taken care of through stem cell therapy, will my bone health return to normalization? or is this a disease that I will have to endure (bone weakness) for life?

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Ginger, Volunteer Mentor | @gingerw | Apr 20, 2023

In reply to @basslakebabe19 "What is CTM?" + (show)

I believe it stands for Chinese Traditional Medicine.

siosal | @siosal | Apr 20, 2023

In reply to @basslakebabe19 "What is CTM?" + (show)

Chinese traditional medicine

mmcdimarco3 | @mmcdimarco3 | Apr 20, 2023

In reply to @morningsing "Well, traditional Chinese medical science can explain this problem very well. They have a theory called..." + (show)

Thank you for this information. Really appreciate it

chickenfeet7777 | @chickenfeet7777 | Feb 8 6:43pm

In reply to @gingerw "@benjamin8161 I am curious what stage of Chronic Kidney Disease you are currently at, and the..." + (show)

@gingerw

@benjamin8161 I am curious what stage of Chronic Kidney Disease you are currently at, and the cause of the CKD?

This is from the National Institute of Diabetes, Digestive, and Kidney Diseases https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/kidney-disease/mineral-bone-disorder#:~:text=When%20kidneys%20do%20not%20function,mineral%20levels%20in%20the%20body.:
"Chronic kidney disease is kidney damage that occurs slowly over many years, often due to diabetes or high blood pressure. Once damaged, the kidneys can’t filter blood as they should.
Hormones and minerals are important because they help bones stay strong. If a person’s hormones and minerals are out of balance, his or her bones can become weak and malformed.
Parathyroid hormone plays an important role in controlling calcium levels in the blood. When kidneys do not function properly, extra parathyroid hormone is released in the blood to move calcium from inside the bones into the blood.
Chronic kidney disease causes mineral and bone disorder because the kidneys do not properly balance the mineral levels in the body. The kidneys stop activating calcitriol and do not remove the phosphorus in the blood properly.
The complications of mineral and bone disorder in CKD include slowed bone growth and deformities, and heart and blood vessel problems.
Treating mineral and bone disorder in CKD includes preventing damage to bones by controlling parathyroid hormone levels through changes in eating, diet, and nutrition; medications and supplements; and dialysis.
Reducing dietary intake of phosphorus is one of the most important steps in preventing bone disease.
If diet, medications, and dialysis can’t control parathyroid hormone levels, a surgeon can remove one or more of the parathyroid glands."

And from the same NIDDK site: https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/kidney-disease/mineral-bone-disorder

From the National Kidney Foundation, here is their take on the issue: https://www.kidney.org/atoz/content/MineralBoneDisorder

And from Mayo Clinic, their discussion on Chronic Kidney Disease includes the complication of bone loss https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/chronic-kidney-disease/symptoms-causes/syc-20354521

Our kidneys do so much for our bodies! Who would have thought?!
Ginger

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Question?
I have 4th renal CKD RIGHT NOW I AM DOING-THE RENAL diet. My one kidney has stenosis causing other problems. Does insurance cover stem cell or renal stint

Thanks

Ginger, Volunteer Mentor | @gingerw | Feb 9 1:21pm

In reply to @chickenfeet7777 "Question? I have 4th renal CKD RIGHT NOW I AM DOING-THE RENAL diet. My one kidney..." + (show)

@chickenfeet7777 Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect! Being in Stage 4 kidney disease is enough to deal with, let alone finding out you have stenosis on one kidney artery. Here is what Mayo Clinic has to say about that condition: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/renal-artery-stenosis/symptoms-causes/syc-20352777 Is the stenosis the reason for your Stage 4, or do you have another underlying cause of kidney disease?

Does your medical team have you on any medications to address the stenosis, yet? Have they determined what caused it?

As far as if insurance would cover a renal angioplasty or stent, that is something you would need to ask your insurance provider about. It is not a question that we as members here could respond to. Also, I am not sure what you are referring to as far as stem cell - do you also have cancer?
Ginger

pursuingwellness | @pursuingwellness | Feb 11 8:08am

In reply to @siosal "Chinese traditional medicine" + (show)

I want to believe that CTM/TCM holds some secrets that traditional Western medicine doesn't, but I need to see the research that provides the proof! Then we can all line up and get our kidneys back to normal functionality.