Transdermal HRT

Posted by vkmov @vkmov, Oct 19, 2023

Many studies have found that transdermal HRT protects and builds bone without all the horrific side effects of many first-line osteoporosis treatments. The patch bypasses the liver and thereby avoids the risks of breast cancer, strokes, etc. Has anyone explored this or discussed it with their doctors?

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@sallyj2

I’m not the poster, but I’m 13 years post hysterectomy and five post oophotectomy. Cardiologist, oncologist, and Obgyn said hormones are fine for me, individual risks matter, estrogen can improve high Lp(a).

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Does anyone know if a person in their 80's can begin BHRT? Can it be used for rebound after Prolia?

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@dna41

Does anyone know if a person in their 80's can begin BHRT? Can it be used for rebound after Prolia?

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My mother was on HRT in her 80’s even with a fib. I’m not entirely sure when she started it.

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@teb

Taken early in menopause, it appears to be very protective of the heart, brain and bones. Post menopause, there is a small increased cardiovascular risk in the first year of use that seems to diminish after that. If you have a personal or familial history of CVD, that might preclude its use. We don't really know what the true risk of breast cancer is as that very small increase in cases noted in the WHI study (1 additional case per 1,000 women) was with oral estrogen and as you've mentioned, overall risks may be lower with transdermal. There was no increase in death from breast cancer. We really need new studies done with bioidentical transdermal estradiol to determine true efficacy and risk.

After my full course of Forteo, I opted to go on HRT. I was about 62 at the time, 10 years post menopause so not ideal according to the studies but I still felt it was the best option for me. That was about 5 years ago when docs were still abiding by the post-WHI study data, being risk averse to HRT. I finally convinced my endo that it was the best option and he agreed to "lowest dose for shortest amount of time" which, at that time, was the mantra. The acceptance of HRT is gaining as a preventive but not as much for the preservation of bone (though it used to be used as a pharmaceutical in osteoporosis for that purpose). I am now seeing a menopause specialist who is extremely experienced in the use of HRT (for decades). She is evaluating my bloodwork and history to determine whether I can increase my dose. Though the low dose I am on has mostly maintained my gains from Forteo, overall, things could be better. I will be seeing her for a second appt next week to evaluate.

We have to make tough decisions when diagnosed with osteoporosis. All drugs have side effects. Forteo was my first choice to increase my bone density as it is a hormone that the body recognizes and utilizes. I went on HRT for the same reason. Overall, we have to take some sort of risk with any drug we opt to take so best to evaluate risks vs benefits of each option to make a decision we are personally comfortable with.

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Could you share the name of your menopause specialist please?

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@sallyj2

Could you share the name of your menopause specialist please?

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Dr Felice Gersh

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To all, Margie Bissinger dropped a podcast with Felice Gersh earlier today. Episode 236- title Bioidentical Hormones and Osteoporosis - Using Bioidentical Hormones Safely with Osteoporosis. I know I mentioned this last week , I guess it takes about a week to edit and all that , but today it did actually drop.

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@dinah1

Hello. I am 70 and have been on some form of HRT since early menopause at 42. Currently I use CombiPatch and plan to stay on it for life. As for my bones, I was diagnosed with Osteopenia in my 40s and just recently Osteoporosis, with the lowest score -2.5 in right femoral hip. Since switching from oral to transdermal a liver enzyme that had been creeping up fell to normal and my cholesterol levels improved. Good luck.

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Hi dinah1,
Wow! It sounds like the HRTs really helped to keep your bone loss low.
When you were first diagnosed with ostepenia in your 40s, do you recall what your t-scores were? I'm curious how much you lost from then until now.
Thanks!

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@hopefullibrarian

Hi dinah1,
Wow! It sounds like the HRTs really helped to keep your bone loss low.
When you were first diagnosed with ostepenia in your 40s, do you recall what your t-scores were? I'm curious how much you lost from then until now.
Thanks!

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No, I am sorry I don’t have that information. I wish I did!

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@dna41

Does anyone know if a person in their 80's can begin BHRT? Can it be used for rebound after Prolia?

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Read the book Estrogen Matters. It dispels a lot of myths with facts. Obviously, you’d likely need progesterone and testosterone. But, like a lot of things, real science was ignored. Frustrating.

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@sallyj2

Read the book Estrogen Matters. It dispels a lot of myths with facts. Obviously, you’d likely need progesterone and testosterone. But, like a lot of things, real science was ignored. Frustrating.

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Thank you for the reference. I will look for this book.

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