Is it necessary to remove basal cell via Mohs? What are alternatives?

Posted by cdeldeo @cdeldeo, Dec 16, 2023

Was dx with basal cell on tip of nose. Derm wants to do Mohs surgery with nose reconstruction which will alter my nose. I am 78 and do not want to do this. Any suggestions?

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@gingerw

@cdeldeo What does your dermatologist have to say about it? I recently had MOHS surgery on my nose, for basal cell. The area was right near the crease of my left nostril.
Ginger

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My basal cell is on the tip and the dorsum of the nose....I guess I am concerned about the contour of my nose being different albeit there will be a plastic surgeon there as well as the MOHS surgeon. I am a nurse but not use to dermatology....and I am one vain old lady!

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@cdeldeo

I am an elderly female with basal cell cancer on tip of nose and on dorsum of nose....should I do the Mohs procedure or radiation?

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I have had Mohs surgery twice..
first one on my nose too!
Extremely effective..I had a sizable incision, and there is no indication now that I ever had
skin cancer on my nose.
Healed beautifully and no worries of it returning
Highly recommend

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@cdeldeo

My basal cell is on the tip and the dorsum of the nose....I guess I am concerned about the contour of my nose being different albeit there will be a plastic surgeon there as well as the MOHS surgeon. I am a nurse but not use to dermatology....and I am one vain old lady!

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Wow, I have never heard of a plastic surgeon also being there. I have had two Mohs on the tip of my nose and they were successful. Eileen

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@cdeldeo

I am an elderly female with basal cell cancer on tip of nose and on dorsum of nose....should I do the Mohs procedure or radiation?

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Your dermatologist should go over the pros and cons for each with you.

I always choose MOHS. I have had many of them now and other than a slow healing process will continue to do them as cancer is remove before you leave office.

Just make sure you have experience and specifically trained surgeon in MOHS.

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@cdeldeo

I am an elderly female with basal cell cancer on tip of nose and on dorsum of nose....should I do the Mohs procedure or radiation?

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Thank you for your reply. I am scheduled for a MOHS at Mayo Tuesday with a Mohs surgeon and a plastic surgeon....onward and upward.

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@cdeldeo

Thank you so much...I am nervous but sounds like MOHS on the NOSE is the way to go!

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It is, it's nothing to go through, don't be nervous.

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@eileen11108

Wow, I have never heard of a plastic surgeon also being there. I have had two Mohs on the tip of my nose and they were successful. Eileen

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Looks like quite a few of us have had 2 Moh's on our noses. I have as well, one required 3 passes and the other 2. One was on the side of my nose & was somewhat difficult, both in the process and in the healing. There isn't much flesh in that area. The other was on the tip & still scabs over, even after several years.
I also have had one on my chin-- no problem, and 2 on my leg, also no problem.
I have another one coming up that will be on my lip. A very sensitive area. I'm really tired of these!

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@gingerw

@cdeldeo What does your dermatologist have to say about it? I recently had MOHS surgery on my nose, for basal cell. The area was right near the crease of my left nostril.
Ginger

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My husband has a beautiful nose
And basal arrived ….. 4 passes on the left side of the nose with mohs surgery …. From top of nose to tip …3 hours … I thought how was this going to look for him….. it healed like it never happened the surgeon was amazing !!! Still has a beautiful nose !!!! Peace to you as you decide!!!

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I had Mohs done for basal cell carcinoma on lower side of nose at age 60 - was 15 years ago. Excellent surgeon, beautiful cosmetic appearance (used cartilage from my ear to re-construct.). Dr was previously head of Mohs at Bethesda, MD, Naval Hospital before retiring (at a fairly young age of 50ish?) and going into private practice - he had great experience! Now I’m 75 and one of the rare birds with a presumable recurrence after 15 years - just diagnosed with bcc in same spot.

This time I’m re-thinking options. I’m assuming there’s scar tissue from the procedure done 15 years ago and wondering if that’ll negatively impact the Mohs outcome, cosmetically speaking, if I choose Mohs again. Radiation (SRT) has a five year cure rate of over 95%, almost as good as Mohs. The chances of the bcc recurring again would put me at 80 or likely older, if something else doesn’t “do me in” before then.

Radiation can’t be used when bcc recurs in same spot if it was used the first go-round; I read where side effects aren’t tolerable with a do-over of radiation for recurrence. That’s why they discourage younger folks from radiation, as there’s a slim chance basal or squamous cell could recur later, as mine has. I’m at an older age now - didn’t use radiation 15 years ago. Surgery is riskier at my age now, as my body doesn’t fight off infection, if that should occur. So, I’m leaning toward SRT, as I can safely opt for radiation this second time. If I choose radiation, it’ll be a a practice that specializes in it. Everything I’ve read said doctors have a lot of biased opinions - SRT doctors say go with SRT, Mohs surgeons say Mohs is better. But age factors in - not sure there’s a strong enough reason for elective surgery at 75, when radiation is a good option, too.

I’m on traditional Medicare and called to learn Medicare will pay for a second opinion if referring Dr says it’s a medical necessity. So I’m going to talk to my Mohs surgeon, my dermatologist, and get a consultation with a radiation oncologist, too. Wondering if I need lymph node tests since this looks like a recurrence.

I also called the American Cancer Society - they have a 24 hr call line. They couldn't give me a definitive answer as to which might be preferable in my case - radiation or surgery - so they’re taking my dilemma to their nurse oncologist who will be getting in touch with me in the next couple days. Their nurse will give be information, but won’t give a definitive decision, of course. It’ll be up to me.

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@jakefix82

I had Mohs done for basal cell carcinoma on lower side of nose at age 60 - was 15 years ago. Excellent surgeon, beautiful cosmetic appearance (used cartilage from my ear to re-construct.). Dr was previously head of Mohs at Bethesda, MD, Naval Hospital before retiring (at a fairly young age of 50ish?) and going into private practice - he had great experience! Now I’m 75 and one of the rare birds with a presumable recurrence after 15 years - just diagnosed with bcc in same spot.

This time I’m re-thinking options. I’m assuming there’s scar tissue from the procedure done 15 years ago and wondering if that’ll negatively impact the Mohs outcome, cosmetically speaking, if I choose Mohs again. Radiation (SRT) has a five year cure rate of over 95%, almost as good as Mohs. The chances of the bcc recurring again would put me at 80 or likely older, if something else doesn’t “do me in” before then.

Radiation can’t be used when bcc recurs in same spot if it was used the first go-round; I read where side effects aren’t tolerable with a do-over of radiation for recurrence. That’s why they discourage younger folks from radiation, as there’s a slim chance basal or squamous cell could recur later, as mine has. I’m at an older age now - didn’t use radiation 15 years ago. Surgery is riskier at my age now, as my body doesn’t fight off infection, if that should occur. So, I’m leaning toward SRT, as I can safely opt for radiation this second time. If I choose radiation, it’ll be a a practice that specializes in it. Everything I’ve read said doctors have a lot of biased opinions - SRT doctors say go with SRT, Mohs surgeons say Mohs is better. But age factors in - not sure there’s a strong enough reason for elective surgery at 75, when radiation is a good option, too.

I’m on traditional Medicare and called to learn Medicare will pay for a second opinion if referring Dr says it’s a medical necessity. So I’m going to talk to my Mohs surgeon, my dermatologist, and get a consultation with a radiation oncologist, too. Wondering if I need lymph node tests since this looks like a recurrence.

I also called the American Cancer Society - they have a 24 hr call line. They couldn't give me a definitive answer as to which might be preferable in my case - radiation or surgery - so they’re taking my dilemma to their nurse oncologist who will be getting in touch with me in the next couple days. Their nurse will give be information, but won’t give a definitive decision, of course. It’ll be up to me.

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@jakefix82, did you make your decision?

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