I tried those two first as well and they did nothing for me, only negative side effects. Then my psychiatrist put me on Effexor XR and I have felt normal ever since.
I tried those two first as well and they did nothing for me, only negative side effects. Then my psychiatrist put me on Effexor XR and I have felt normal ever since.
All antidepressants are suspect. The original research supporting their effectiveness has been shown to be full of conflicts and irregularities. If you are interest look up the Star-D report and the subsequent critiques. The current science leans towards dramatically reducing the use of SSRI's and SNRI's for anything but the most severe depression. Even then the effectiveness of these meds is questionable. When doing research on what I put in my body I am very careful to make sure I reviewing the most current information. A lot has changed that even doctors don't know about.
I was put on high doses of medication fifteen years ago. I thought I was depressed. My life at the time was wonderful beyond my wildest dreams. The doctor never did a physical exam nor did he do any blood work. If he had he would have told me that I was obese, sleep deprived and needed to exercise. Instead he gave me a bunch of pills.
Fast forward five years and everyone and everything I cared about was gone from my life and I was on my way to prison. My life has been a nightmare ever since. I've been on countless meds. I have had ECT and Ketamine treatments. I have had years of therapy and nothing worked, until I made some logical changes.
I changed my diet to be much more nutritional wholesome and I started exercising everyday. I got much better very quickly. Unfortunately, I discontinued my meds to quickly and the side effects put me in the hospital.
To be clear, I do not think I should have ever been put on the medications I was put on. Instead, my doctor should have worked with me to improve my physical health. If he had done blood work, he would have found that my testosterone levels were low, something another clinic found out latter. The symptoms of low testosterone are depression and anxiety, among other things.
Now my health problems are the side effects of the medications I am trying to get rid of.
Anyone dealing with depression who doesn't address their physical health first is setting themselves up to be a lab rat for the pharmaceutical industry. Unfortunately, mental health providers have become the distribution network.
There are some medications that work as advertised. Typically they fall into central nervous system depressants. For straight up depression the science and my providers are now clear; life style changes and psychotherapy are more effective than medication.
It's too late for me. My system has been ravaged by treatments and medication that has left me with side effects that may never go away. My recommendation to anyone considering medication is do your home work. Make sure your provider does a physical exam to included detailed blood work. Control what you can. Eat nutritional food and exercise as much as one can stand.
Once the medication circus starts it is very hard to stop.
All antidepressants are suspect. The original research supporting their effectiveness has been shown to be full of conflicts and irregularities. If you are interest look up the Star-D report and the subsequent critiques. The current science leans towards dramatically reducing the use of SSRI's and SNRI's for anything but the most severe depression. Even then the effectiveness of these meds is questionable. When doing research on what I put in my body I am very careful to make sure I reviewing the most current information. A lot has changed that even doctors don't know about.
I was put on high doses of medication fifteen years ago. I thought I was depressed. My life at the time was wonderful beyond my wildest dreams. The doctor never did a physical exam nor did he do any blood work. If he had he would have told me that I was obese, sleep deprived and needed to exercise. Instead he gave me a bunch of pills.
Fast forward five years and everyone and everything I cared about was gone from my life and I was on my way to prison. My life has been a nightmare ever since. I've been on countless meds. I have had ECT and Ketamine treatments. I have had years of therapy and nothing worked, until I made some logical changes.
I changed my diet to be much more nutritional wholesome and I started exercising everyday. I got much better very quickly. Unfortunately, I discontinued my meds to quickly and the side effects put me in the hospital.
To be clear, I do not think I should have ever been put on the medications I was put on. Instead, my doctor should have worked with me to improve my physical health. If he had done blood work, he would have found that my testosterone levels were low, something another clinic found out latter. The symptoms of low testosterone are depression and anxiety, among other things.
Now my health problems are the side effects of the medications I am trying to get rid of.
Anyone dealing with depression who doesn't address their physical health first is setting themselves up to be a lab rat for the pharmaceutical industry. Unfortunately, mental health providers have become the distribution network.
There are some medications that work as advertised. Typically they fall into central nervous system depressants. For straight up depression the science and my providers are now clear; life style changes and psychotherapy are more effective than medication.
It's too late for me. My system has been ravaged by treatments and medication that has left me with side effects that may never go away. My recommendation to anyone considering medication is do your home work. Make sure your provider does a physical exam to included detailed blood work. Control what you can. Eat nutritional food and exercise as much as one can stand.
Once the medication circus starts it is very hard to stop.
I believe I was put on psychiatric medications inappropriately fifteen years ago. After losing everyone and everything that mattered to me I am now dealing with the side effects of the horrible medications I've been on for so long. That means more and different medications.
Worse yet, like so many others, I have to manage my providers who tacitly admit that I was and probably still am misdiagnosed. At least they have agreed to stop treating the diagnosis and focus on treating my symptoms. They are starting to acknowledge that mental health treatment is trial and error. But when does it stop.
More meds to treat the side effects of existing medications that are not working to begin with. This seems insane to me. But what are we who suffer from the ravages of years of toxic medications to do.
Right now I have accepted that I have to treat the side effects of the medications I was on with different, less-bad, medications. When I stabilize I will then have to slowly begin the process of eliminating the new, less-bad, medications. Meanwhile I am trying to pick up the pieces of my life.
It my come to late for me, but there is s reckoning coming. The medication first, approach to mental health care is wrong and has caused incalculable suffering. We can thank our broken for profit model of modern medicine for this corruption.
I wish I could let this go. I wish I could just accept that this is just the way it is. But I cannot! I want the reckoning to come now! I want the people I hurt to know that I did not hurt them on purpose. I want them to know sometimes forces conspire to exploit vulnerable groups of people for the benefit of a few. It has happened through out history, most recently with the Oxycontin scandal. People who used to be drug addicts are now people with substance abuse disorders who developed those disorders because of the misleading marketing of big Pharma and the medical professions negligence and complicity. Sound familiar?
The data are clear. Industry and medicine have known for a long time that modern antidepressants are ineffective and cause life altering side effects. We who suffer have to speak up as loudly as we can. We have to advocate for ourselves and fight for proper care.
I'm tired of fighting but fighting is all I have. So I keep on.
Same slowly sinking physical and uncontrollable mental illness have given me years of pain and anxiety that are now beyond present day accepted treatment. Is there hope outside of America’s current health crisis? Lots of people are dying!
I couldn’t agree more about this country over prescribing for profit. So many are suffering from depression and want help that is more natural and not toxic.
extreme V Azendus SAM-e Mood Support 400mg has been prescribed in Europe for years and shows effectiveness. It needs to contain Butanedisulfonate.
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a psychiatrist i know recommends Wellbutrin for depression.
I tried those two first as well and they did nothing for me, only negative side effects. Then my psychiatrist put me on Effexor XR and I have felt normal ever since.
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1 ReactionTook all of them so horrible side effects trying other more natural measures … hate the meds!!!
All antidepressants are suspect. The original research supporting their effectiveness has been shown to be full of conflicts and irregularities. If you are interest look up the Star-D report and the subsequent critiques. The current science leans towards dramatically reducing the use of SSRI's and SNRI's for anything but the most severe depression. Even then the effectiveness of these meds is questionable. When doing research on what I put in my body I am very careful to make sure I reviewing the most current information. A lot has changed that even doctors don't know about.
I was put on high doses of medication fifteen years ago. I thought I was depressed. My life at the time was wonderful beyond my wildest dreams. The doctor never did a physical exam nor did he do any blood work. If he had he would have told me that I was obese, sleep deprived and needed to exercise. Instead he gave me a bunch of pills.
Fast forward five years and everyone and everything I cared about was gone from my life and I was on my way to prison. My life has been a nightmare ever since. I've been on countless meds. I have had ECT and Ketamine treatments. I have had years of therapy and nothing worked, until I made some logical changes.
I changed my diet to be much more nutritional wholesome and I started exercising everyday. I got much better very quickly. Unfortunately, I discontinued my meds to quickly and the side effects put me in the hospital.
To be clear, I do not think I should have ever been put on the medications I was put on. Instead, my doctor should have worked with me to improve my physical health. If he had done blood work, he would have found that my testosterone levels were low, something another clinic found out latter. The symptoms of low testosterone are depression and anxiety, among other things.
Now my health problems are the side effects of the medications I am trying to get rid of.
Anyone dealing with depression who doesn't address their physical health first is setting themselves up to be a lab rat for the pharmaceutical industry. Unfortunately, mental health providers have become the distribution network.
There are some medications that work as advertised. Typically they fall into central nervous system depressants. For straight up depression the science and my providers are now clear; life style changes and psychotherapy are more effective than medication.
It's too late for me. My system has been ravaged by treatments and medication that has left me with side effects that may never go away. My recommendation to anyone considering medication is do your home work. Make sure your provider does a physical exam to included detailed blood work. Control what you can. Eat nutritional food and exercise as much as one can stand.
Once the medication circus starts it is very hard to stop.
I hope you life in good health and peace.
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1 ReactionAmen to everything you just said….antidepressants are the devil. They are not helping me and after 20 years, im stuck with them. #labrat
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1 ReactionI believe I was put on psychiatric medications inappropriately fifteen years ago. After losing everyone and everything that mattered to me I am now dealing with the side effects of the horrible medications I've been on for so long. That means more and different medications.
Worse yet, like so many others, I have to manage my providers who tacitly admit that I was and probably still am misdiagnosed. At least they have agreed to stop treating the diagnosis and focus on treating my symptoms. They are starting to acknowledge that mental health treatment is trial and error. But when does it stop.
More meds to treat the side effects of existing medications that are not working to begin with. This seems insane to me. But what are we who suffer from the ravages of years of toxic medications to do.
Right now I have accepted that I have to treat the side effects of the medications I was on with different, less-bad, medications. When I stabilize I will then have to slowly begin the process of eliminating the new, less-bad, medications. Meanwhile I am trying to pick up the pieces of my life.
It my come to late for me, but there is s reckoning coming. The medication first, approach to mental health care is wrong and has caused incalculable suffering. We can thank our broken for profit model of modern medicine for this corruption.
I wish I could let this go. I wish I could just accept that this is just the way it is. But I cannot! I want the reckoning to come now! I want the people I hurt to know that I did not hurt them on purpose. I want them to know sometimes forces conspire to exploit vulnerable groups of people for the benefit of a few. It has happened through out history, most recently with the Oxycontin scandal. People who used to be drug addicts are now people with substance abuse disorders who developed those disorders because of the misleading marketing of big Pharma and the medical professions negligence and complicity. Sound familiar?
The data are clear. Industry and medicine have known for a long time that modern antidepressants are ineffective and cause life altering side effects. We who suffer have to speak up as loudly as we can. We have to advocate for ourselves and fight for proper care.
I'm tired of fighting but fighting is all I have. So I keep on.
May you live in good health and peace.
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3 ReactionsThese insightful comments are very helpful...appreciate them. Thanks.
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1 ReactionSame slowly sinking physical and uncontrollable mental illness have given me years of pain and anxiety that are now beyond present day accepted treatment. Is there hope outside of America’s current health crisis? Lots of people are dying!
I couldn’t agree more about this country over prescribing for profit. So many are suffering from depression and want help that is more natural and not toxic.
extreme V Azendus SAM-e Mood Support 400mg has been prescribed in Europe for years and shows effectiveness. It needs to contain Butanedisulfonate.
I have been on many antidepressants. None seem to help or stop helping. I am so miserable and in pain. What is there to do?
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