#MayoClinicNeuroChat about Aneurysms and 3D Modeling

Thu, Jul 13, 2017
10:30am to 11:00am CT


Dr. Bernard Bendok, neurosurgeon, and Dr. Brian Chong, radiologist, about brain aneurysms and 3D modeling.

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I recently used computational fluid dynamics software to model splenic artery aneurysms for an undergraduate research project and am interested in conducting similar research as a future career. How does one go into the field of medical 3D modeling? Would it be better to pursue a PhD in, say, biomedical engineering or would it be better to go to Medical School to have a career in 3D modeling? In medical research do you work alongside many PhDs or do you work mainly with other Medical Doctors? Thank you!


I was diagnosed with Cerebral Vasculitis of the brain following my first major stroke in September,2000
followed by 7 years of going to and from every Neurologist here in Scottsdale, Az and also Phoenix. I went through every MRI, x-ray, blood test , Cardiovascular scopes , s different Spinal Taps etc. I was even misdiagnosed with MS by the head of the stroke Dept at Barrows and went through 6 months of these shots, while simultaneously taking morphine to TRY to help these horrific migraine-like headaches which I
woke up with, and lasted all day. I finally got to go to Mayo to a Dr Timathy Ingalls who specializes in Unrezolved Strokes, and he was fabulous and so brilliant and kind. By this time, I had already suffered and survived 7 major strokes and lived in terrible pain because all the Neuroogists said that until I
found what caused my strokes, they could not stop them!!! I had been misdiagnosed with M. S. but after 6 months , we discovered that not it! I also had many TI A's in those years! Dr Ingalls
reached the diagnosis of Cerebral Vasculitis after seeing me 1time / month for 4 months and consulting
Via satellite to the other Mayo, using all my test results gathered during the previous almost 7 years
and then my insurance would no longer cover him, so I went for a short time to another Dr in Scottsdale,
but after some time I did not like "being talked down to" and being told that he would talk and my
questions were squashed!! After spending 7 years getting my DX did not mean my headaches were gone,
and I felt better! I feel "knowledge is power" and I still did not feel good even with the morphine but now I
was put on Plavix and some other Meds at Mayo but I DID switch to one of the other Drs in the
practice, Dr Constantine Moschonas, who I love and respect so much!! He is THE BEST and I still see
him and have come a long way. Many things have contributed to my improvement, but anytime I feel a little low, Dr Moschonas reminds me that I am ALIVE and functioning to MY best capabilities and
he reminds me that ANYONE who does not love me for "me " as I am is not my friend!!!
Don't ever forget that "you are your best advocate" ! I speak from my experience and the last 17
years, and I DO feel the best since my first stroke: ) it hasn't been easy for Me or my family but it has
been worth it!!


Hi @nshekoni @billieb @kariulrich @sunshine44 @useless @love2dance @lindalb @abissol41 @susanferrer. Our next #MayoClinicNeuroChat is about to begin in 10 minutes. Today's chat is on Aneurysms and 3D Modeling with with Dr. Bernard Bendok, neurosurgeon, and Dr. Brian Chong, radiologist. Please join us live or watch the video archive.


Hi @colleenyoung, I appreciate so much you letting me know about the chat #Mayo Clinic Neuro Chat, but I just came across it today! One of these days That will figure it out, but it is fabulous to hear from others who are going through similar journeys asI did. Now that I have spent 18 years figuting out my Cerebral Vasculitis!!!
Now It seems that I have gained about 60 pounds within the past year, yetvI always still
eat clean and I cut out all sugars and carbs. Have you heard this from others? Cause? Thank you, in advance, Terri Needle


I am a scientist of many years (ummm, decades) and can truthfully say that we are just now at the cusp where our models can take major leaps forward. Indeed deep learning on things like imaging studies are already at or better than human capability. This is very important as we are really making enormous strides right now. I am not associated with the Mayo clinic.

For @luna1017 how do you get into a field? At first, study related fields in college. Work every extra moment you can on the sub-speciality of interest. Do not wait on class assignments. Select a graduate school that has at least one professor that is studying closely related subjects. Talk with the prospective professors and find someone you can both learn from and succeed with. I will note, it is never too early to read research papers.

As you start out, you will encounter much you do not understand -- look up each and every thing you don't understand and learn it until you can read that first paper at least with some moderate understanding. Your next step is to keep reading more papers and then try and reproduce results of those papers. As you reach a point in which you can reproduce results you have the foundation in which to start performing novel research as well as the tools and references to support your work.

I'm a physicist, and I think you will find those guidelines reasonable for most fields. Indeed I am now doing exactly that on a new field of interest myself.

Good luck @luna1017 It is exciting to see someone young interested in science and advancing the boundaries of our knowledge.

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