Want to connect with others with Splenic B cell Marginal Zone Lymphoma

Posted by April @sabtahis, Jul 24, 2016

There are over 80 different subtypes of lymphoma . This is a slow growing lymphoma.I'd like to know and communicate with any patient if possible.

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@lila1

Hi Kayak, hoping @elainejarrett will weigh in to share some naturopathic knowledge.

My IGG numbers also in the 400s. Immunologist says since I'm thankfully not getting illnesses will let it ride for now, and that IVIG or SVIG will be the cure for that issue. Were you getting illnesses and that's why you started treatment? How are the infusions going for you? You do them in the clinic or in-home? They working well?

Yes, quite the spectrum! Thank you for connecting, Lila

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I was diagnosed 2019. I have been trying the naturopathic way with certain supplements and going for weekly ozone and vitamin C IVs for 3 years. I did do ozone sauna for a year also. I stopped as it was all getting too pricey. I continue with the IVs. My labs are holding steady.

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Hi Kayak, hoping @elainejarrett will weigh in to share some naturopathic knowledge.

My IGG numbers also in the 400s. Immunologist says since I'm thankfully not getting illnesses will let it ride for now, and that IVIG or SVIG will be the cure for that issue. Were you getting illnesses and that's why you started treatment? How are the infusions going for you? You do them in the clinic or in-home? They working well?

Yes, quite the spectrum! Thank you for connecting, Lila

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@lila1

Want to take IV Vitamin C as complementary therapy, with SMZL. Since my spleen is already slightly enlarged from sequestering platelets, would a supplement known to increase platelets (vitamin C) make the spleen enlarge even more? My hematologist said “no” but am wondering if anyone else with SMZL has experience with IV Vitamin C and its effects? Thanks!

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Vitamin C therapy is new to me so thank you for making me aware. I'm a SMZL patient (several years) and this past year underwent IGG infusion therapy. (My numbers were in the 400's, I believe 1000 - 1200 is normal.) This is the number my oncologist watches carefully. This is the only care I receive other than regular visits under the wait and watch protocol. it seems SMZL is quite a spectrum of symptoms and therapies! Laurie

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@elainejarrett

I go to. Naturopath to have ozone treatment and vitamin C IV once a week. It’s expensive and cannot say for sure if it’s helping or not. I take some supplements but these are from the naturopathic doctor who is also an MD. My oncologist advises me to lose weight and limit sugar which is really difficult for me. Years ago, one of his patients went on an all plant diet and the problem went away. Could not remember patients name as it was over 20 years ago. Must have done more than just a plant based diet. So far, I am just tired too. Oncologist doesn’t have much to say when I go. Labs are drawn and my spleen is felt. The latter is getting bigger and I am told once symptoms arise, then I shall get treatment. Other than that, nothing. I worry though.

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Hi Elaine, do you do ozone sauna or ozone IV? I’m interested in this idea. Am currently doing weekly IV vitamin C. Thank you, Lila

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Thanks to all of you for your thoughtful responses! Am learning so much from you.

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Want to take IV Vitamin C as complementary therapy, with SMZL. Since my spleen is already slightly enlarged from sequestering platelets, would a supplement known to increase platelets (vitamin C) make the spleen enlarge even more? My hematologist said “no” but am wondering if anyone else with SMZL has experience with IV Vitamin C and its effects? Thanks!

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@lila1

Diagnosed May 2024. Got 3 opinions, read research. Splenectomy has pros/cons, as does rituximab. They all seem to result in similar OS and PFS. In my estimation it appears a toss up, a personal choice. Would you prefer to have infusions that affect your immune system one way or surgery that affects your immune system another way? Clearly oncologists tout rituxan over OG surgery. But if you are on the young side with low marrow involvement, why would you choose rituxan over surgery? Please freely share advice!

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Given that you’ve done your research on both splenectomy vs Rituximab and have gotten 3 opinions…and you, as well as your doctor, are comfortable with your decision to go ahead with the spleen removal then I think you’ve made the decision that’s best for you.
I did find a site you might find helpful in validating your decision: https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196(19)30506-3/abstract#:~:text=Consensus%20guidelines%20and%20recent%20appraisal%20of%20the%20evidence,treatments%20in%20the%20absence%20of%20increased%20surgery-related%20risks.

I was just going to link you to another member, @bmisslich who had a splenectomy but I see you beat me to it!! ☺️. Hopefully they can give you some insights as to living without a spleen.

Wishing you all the best. Keep me posted, ok?

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@loribmt

Hi @lila1. Welcome to Connect. You came to the right place to be able to chat with others who share your diagnosis of Splenic B cell Marginal Zone Lymphoma.
I see you’re in the watch and wait phase which can often feel like you’re waiting for the other shoe to drop. So I hope you’re not letting that interfere with just enjoying life to the fullest. Those pesky “what ifs” can be such stressors.

From reading your other replies, it looks as though your doctor has given you potential treatment options of infusions with Rituxan or a splenectomy? Is there a reason you’d prefer the surgery instead of infusions? Rituxan can be a pretty effective medication especially where B-cells are concerned.

How long ago were you diagnosed?

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Diagnosed May 2024. Got 3 opinions, read research. Splenectomy has pros/cons, as does rituximab. They all seem to result in similar OS and PFS. In my estimation it appears a toss up, a personal choice. Would you prefer to have infusions that affect your immune system one way or surgery that affects your immune system another way? Clearly oncologists tout rituxan over OG surgery. But if you are on the young side with low marrow involvement, why would you choose rituxan over surgery? Please freely share advice!

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@vikitrees

Hi Lori, I looked up Acute Myeloid Leukemia and I can’t even imagine what a shock you must have got from getting such a diagnosis, and I’m so very glad that you have got the treatment that you have, and the amazing result that you have also. I am very interested to know just what was done to turn things around for you, that’s if you wish to share this.
Viki

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Hi Viki. You are right, my AML diagnosis was a complete shock. To that point, I’d seldom ever been sick or hospitalized except for the birth of our daughter. I did everything right! Ate super healthy, exercised, didn’t smoke and had occasional glasses of wine! At 65, I was feeling great and thought I might just cruise into my ‘golden years’ without an issue. Hah! Mother Nature had other plans…LOL. Anyway, lots of chemo and a bone marrow transplant 5 years ago has me in a durable remission. I quite honestly feel that nothing ever happened.
I learned that things I feared most in life such cancer or chemo, turned out not to be the worst things in life.
I’m so grateful for the medical care I received at my local clinic and Mayo-Rochester. Without their dedication and concern, quite frankly I’d be pushing up daisies from the underside many years ago already.
That’s why I’m here in Connect…to offer hope and encouragement for anyone faced with a blood or bone marrow cancer/condition.

I started a new discussion a few years ago for other bone marrow transplant members and shared my experience with both AML and the transplant.
This is one of my replies to another member who shared her story:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/comment/335081/
A few years ago, I was able to actually meet a young woman I mentored through her transplant. An editor from Mayo picked up the story and published the article. Sky, the young woman in the story has now graduated from her university and is heading to grad school!
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/blog/about-connect/newsfeed-post/mayo-clinic-connect-brings-together-2-women-with-leukemia-46-years-apart/
I’m so happy that you’re doing well with your treatments, Viki. Better living through chemistry, right? 😅

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Hi Lori, I looked up Acute Myeloid Leukemia and I can’t even imagine what a shock you must have got from getting such a diagnosis, and I’m so very glad that you have got the treatment that you have, and the amazing result that you have also. I am very interested to know just what was done to turn things around for you, that’s if you wish to share this.
Viki

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