Will AI make a difference with prostate cancer?

Posted by ozelli @ozelli, Dec 1, 2023

I am expecting that AI won't just be capable of writing great essays for uni students but will make meaningful inroads to healthcare in the not too distant future.

It may not come soon enough for some of us unfortunately (we are all on a clock of sorts) and these early LLM models are clearly sourcing discussions on forums much like this one.

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I hope so and it is to the better! A lot of prostrate cancer diagnosis, stages, etc. are subjective and can change from one oncologist and urologist to the next. They readily admit this.

I do know new test like Decipher are more accurate and use genetic testing.

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One area it may help is the radiology angle. I had trouble in that the MRI contrast dye made my PCa look fairly low grade, but the diffusion weighted MRI for me do show cancer very well and blaring. That kind of ignore diffusion weighted and depend on contrast dye MRI issue might be resolved if some robot was looking at all of it, so no human ignoring diffusion MRI images.

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I'll say. Imagine AI with your decipher results.

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From what I can glean from scientific publications, one of the significant benefits of AI is better image interpretation. With the increasing acceptance of MRIs for both accurate prostate cancer identification and biopsy of the prostate gland, I suspect that AI will significantly improve detection of prostate lesions using high resolution MRI, perhaps even predicting how aggressive the cancer is and whether you are a candidate for surveillance or treatment. Like other types of cancer, early detection will greatly improve the odds of a cure.

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Johns Hopkins publication noted efforts to integrate AI into pathology process in attempt to improve diagnosis and grading of PCa.

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As I understand, AI, the more accurate the data set, the better the results will be. I believe there will be huge jumps in accuracy for imaging, biopsies, PSA data, and much more. Healthcare will have a chance to use AI in a highly collaborative way. It’s a very exciting time.

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Here comes the acronym buster
LLM models = large language models
AI = artificial intelligence or augemented intelligence
PSA = prostate-specific antigen

I'm sure I didn't have to spell out PSA, but I thought I better be consistent. You guys in the prostate group are prolific acronym users and I've decided to declare myself the acronym buster. I'll happily go into early retirement if you should decide to help me out by spelling out acronyms. 🙂

So, back on topic:
Mayo Clinic is commited to investigating the use of AI in health care. The Department of Artificial Intelligence and Informatics (AI&I) is a research department that supports Mayo Clinic's artificial intelligence and informatics strategies.

Here's a prostate cancer specific clinical trial in progress:
- A Study to Evaluate Contouring Organs at Risk for Treatment Planning https://www.mayo.edu/research/clinical-trials/cls-20511050

And a few articles how AI assists in cancer:
- Advancing ultrasound microvessel imaging and AI to improve cancer detection
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/advancing-ultrasound-microvessel-imaging-and-ai-to-improve-cancer-detection/
- Mayo Clinic to deploy and test Microsoft generative AI tools
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-to-deploy-and-test-microsoft-generative-ai-tools/
- Mayo Clinic’s AI innovation inspires hope in early detection of pancreatic cancer
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinics-ai-innovation-inspires-hope-in-early-detection-of-pancreatic-cancer/

It's a promising area.

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@jc76

I hope so and it is to the better! A lot of prostrate cancer diagnosis, stages, etc. are subjective and can change from one oncologist and urologist to the next. They readily admit this.

I do know new test like Decipher are more accurate and use genetic testing.

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Would someone tell me if decipher test is only pretreatment or can I learn from it after mri petscan radical prostratectomy and adt?

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@billfarm

Would someone tell me if decipher test is only pretreatment or can I learn from it after mri petscan radical prostratectomy and adt?

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billfarm,
The Decipher test is genetic test done on your biopsies. It can determine more precisely if low risk, intermediate risk, high risk. This is done prior to treatments to help guide oncologist/radiologist with the type treatments they recommend.

I had the Decipher test, PSMA, and bone scan but all were done prior to setting up treatment protocol.

I am not sure if this helped answer your question but hope it helped. You could send a message to Connie (Monitor) to hep better explain this than I can.
Good luck,

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@colleenyoung

Here comes the acronym buster
LLM models = large language models
AI = artificial intelligence or augemented intelligence
PSA = prostate-specific antigen

I'm sure I didn't have to spell out PSA, but I thought I better be consistent. You guys in the prostate group are prolific acronym users and I've decided to declare myself the acronym buster. I'll happily go into early retirement if you should decide to help me out by spelling out acronyms. 🙂

So, back on topic:
Mayo Clinic is commited to investigating the use of AI in health care. The Department of Artificial Intelligence and Informatics (AI&I) is a research department that supports Mayo Clinic's artificial intelligence and informatics strategies.

Here's a prostate cancer specific clinical trial in progress:
- A Study to Evaluate Contouring Organs at Risk for Treatment Planning https://www.mayo.edu/research/clinical-trials/cls-20511050

And a few articles how AI assists in cancer:
- Advancing ultrasound microvessel imaging and AI to improve cancer detection
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/advancing-ultrasound-microvessel-imaging-and-ai-to-improve-cancer-detection/
- Mayo Clinic to deploy and test Microsoft generative AI tools
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-to-deploy-and-test-microsoft-generative-ai-tools/
- Mayo Clinic’s AI innovation inspires hope in early detection of pancreatic cancer
https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinics-ai-innovation-inspires-hope-in-early-detection-of-pancreatic-cancer/

It's a promising area.

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I support Colleen's goal of having those who post to spell out your acronyms. Another suggestion is to reread your comment before you post to ensure that it makes sense.

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