What are the best way to fight side effects, cisplatin, nausea fatigue
I've been feeling so tired, and it's only been week 1 of chemoradiation for Hpv 16+. I cant imagine how the end of treatment is going to be. I know it's different for everyone but can it be minimized?
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I think the toxic effects can be minimized from reading numerous trials and studies on HPV + head and neck cancers.
Had my 2nd cycle of chemo 1 week ago for the same HPV+ but tonsil cancer in my case .
It was a rough week compared to the 1st week . Had many different complications including a spell of nausea and vomiting, constipation, and headache , urinary tract dysfunction to name a few. This old body (67) isn't as tough as it use to be
I think I am done with chemo and have a meeting with the oncologist tomorrow. But like you said everyone and their specific case is different.
That said the chemo was offered as a adjuvant therapy or a helpful addition to radiation but seems some people
just go with the radiation alone which is where I am heading and in a lot of cases end up with similar results.
Although it may take less radiation treatments with a couple rounds of chemo so there is that potential tradeoff.
I've seen stats like 3-5 less radiation treatments per chemo treatment.
Good luck with whatever you choose to do. Lots of research at your fingertips .
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1 ReactionIt's a difficult battle. Not impossible but very difficult just the same. Likely it may be the hardest thing you have or ever will do. But it must be done and somehow we get through this.
On the plus side, we get a second chance. We reacquaint ourselves with all the world has to offer. We might become more human. We might worry less about our own mortality.
Don't hesitate to ask your care team for any medications which might help you cope better with the side effects of your treatments. I certainly wish I had spoken up more and certainly now I would be more in charge of my own care and treatments than I was at that time.
Know that you are not alone. If you want to vent, that is OK too. You can do this. Courage.
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1 ReactionPerhaps there is a clinical trial nearby? My husband was in one at MSK, on day 10 he had a specific type of pet scan,it che ks for hypoxia. After results came back he had treatments shortened. Instead of 7 weeks he had 3 and instead of 3 chemo sessions he had 2. Doctor gave him lots of meds for nausea as well as a steroid which helped. It is a horrible disease and treatment is rough but worth it . Take any and all meds that are offered. Ask lots of questions. You will get through this!
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2 ReactionsHi Lizzy I am really interested in your husband's treatment plan because its basically the same
as what or close to what I am planning on. so thanks for sharing that.
Although my treatment center seems to be bound by the standard of care 7 chemo/35 radiation which is way overkill for most all of us P16 + patients., I'm planning on quitting radiation around the 1/2 way point .
I am aware of the hypoxic and non hypoxic cancer scan but that isn't being offered to me however with the
remarkable progress I am seeing at 2 chemo cycles and 9 radiation treatments am pretty certain I would be a candidate for the MSK trial that your husband had, lucky him to have that plan.
So could you tell me a little about your husband's case ? Tumor location and size ?, # lymph nodes if any ?, stage ?
I am all ears when it comes to limiting the toxic and long term side effects. Can't do anymore chemo so already have the 2 under my belt.
Thanks,
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Hi. I’m currently in this study as well. This study is designed for a very specific subset of head and neck cancer patients. Not everyone with throat cancer qualifies.
Patients typically must have:
1. HPV-positive oropharyngeal cancer
-Usually tonsil or base-of-tongue cancer
-Confirmed p16 / HPV-positive
-This is important because HPV-positive cancers respond differently (and often better) to treatment
2. Non-metastatic disease
-Cancer confined to the head and neck region
-No distant spread (lungs, liver, bone, etc.)
3. Imaging that allows accurate staging
-MRI / CT and PET scans suitable for planning
-The trial relies on high-quality imaging to assess risk
4. No prior radiation to the head and neck
-Previous radiation would change tissue tolerance and risk
5. Medically fit for standard treatment
-Able to receive radiation (and chemotherapy if indicated)
-Adequate kidney function, hearing, and overall performance status
Trial-Specific Eligibility (Key Part)
After initial screening, eligibility hinges on tumor biology, not just stage.
-Patients undergo a special FMISO PET scan
-This scan measures tumor hypoxia (low oxygen levels)
Based on that scan:
-Low-hypoxia (“good-risk”) tumors → eligible for possible radiation de-escalation
-Higher-hypoxia tumors → treated with standard-of-care radiation
Importantly: Patients are not excluded from treatment if they don’t qualify for de-escalation—they simply receive standard therapy.
Who Is Usually Not Eligible
Patients are generally not eligible if they have:
-Distant metastatic disease
-Prior head & neck radiation
-Very advanced local disease where de-escalation would be unsafe
-Medical conditions that prevent safe radiation or chemotherapy
The trial is intentionally selective because:
-The goal is not to “do less treatment”
-The goal is to identify who can safely do less without lowering cure rates
-Tight eligibility protects patient safety and study integrity
Hope that helps!
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2 ReactionsThank you Lizzy. That was a lot of typing.
If I hadn't already started treatment and wasn't a 8 hours drive away I would be
knocking on MSKs door to sign up.
The criteria is perfect for my case.
But I am glad to see some of these larger cancer centers are starting to offer this approach to HPV P16+ oropharyngeal patients.
I've seen HPV+ studies and trials going back 10 years or more and a large % (85) of these cancers are non hypoxic.
The hypoxic tumors are more difficult to treat.
Looks like I'll start my own trial , stop radiation after 15-18 treatments and see where I end up after a few months .
Good luck to you ! How long has your husband been out of treatment ? Remission results yet ?
Thank you justwow for your post above. I see now I was mistaken who posted it.
Think I'm still coming down from all the dexamethasone I had over the course of 2 weeks in chemo so bare with me.
Plus I'm new here still getting use to the forum navigation with a few different threads running on head and neck issues.