Voluntarily Generated Piloerection

Posted by adrianrcastro @adrianrcastro, Apr 13, 2023

To my understanding, voluntarily generated piloerection (VGP), the ability to produce goosebumps at will with no particular external stimulation present, has been scarcely studied, and no true biological mechanisms have been presented as the possible explanation for why this is possible. I am posing this as an open ended question, feel free to contribute with any level of formality/knowledge whatsoever:
What do you think are the mechanisms behind VGP, and what are potential implications of its existence for the patient and/or for science?

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@aaronandamy

My significant other can voluntarily cause goosebumps whenever he wants to. We have tried to search for a reasons as to why this happens and we have only found in the last 100 years three studies done on it on three people so we would like to find out more possibly? Or where to go or who to call?

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Hello @aaronandamy - I combined your discussion with another discussion titled, "Voluntarily Generated Piloerection" - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/voluntarily-generated-piloerection/.

@abrahamdgreat, @adrianrcastro and @yoldone also talked about having voluntary generated piloerection. And may be able to share some of what they have learned experienced.

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@JustinMcClanahan

Hello @aaronandamy - I combined your discussion with another discussion titled, "Voluntarily Generated Piloerection" - https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/voluntarily-generated-piloerection/.

@abrahamdgreat, @adrianrcastro and @yoldone also talked about having voluntary generated piloerection. And may be able to share some of what they have learned experienced.

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Thank you so much!!😊

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@tallyguy

Gotta ask, has the frequency of goosebumps been associated with increased hair growth?

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Absolutely not. 100% not because my man here Aaron has hardly any body hair whatsoever. He has like 6 hairs on his entire chest. And he is almost 46 years old. He only shaves two times a week for work purposes because he is a field technician that deals with H2 emissions and control of those emissions. He needs a whole 30 days before he has somewhat of a scruff. Lol

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I can do it by crossing my eyes inward closed or open it stimulates the inside of my brain causing electrical shivers and goose bumps it feels realy pleasant to do but doing it over and over again makes it harder to activate taking a break makes me able to do it easy again

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Hello, I am hoping to learn more about voluntary pilo erection experienced by others and potentially participate in related study. I also can control pilo erection as well as interfere with the hart beats and rush of blood to my head. Over the decades I discovered practical use for this. I use it during strenuous workouts or extreme physical activity as energy/motivation boost. It manifests as a strong emotional jolt of some sort producing almost damaging levels of energy letting me run extra mile, lift heavier or keep going after all is still. I hope I am not hurting myself somehow by practicing this.

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I’m 49 and have been doing this as long as I can remember. A few years ago I became interested in finding others with this ability after reading James Heather’s study.

The experiences of those with VPG are remarkably similar. 1. Could do this since childhood. 2. The process to trigger the goosebump response is more mechanical than mental. It involves a physically controlled manipulation of something deep within the head or neck area. 3. The response starts down the back of the neck and spreads in waves toward the extremities. 4. The response becomes fatigued after several repeated triggers.

In studying my own experience, it feels like I am using eye muscles deep within my head to press against gland or something to trigger the response. When I activate VGP repeatedly, my eyes become fatigued and strained.

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I personally have VGP and use it almost everyday. I initially was intrigued because I was getting into meditation, and control of my subconscious functions seemed practical. I was lucid dreaming a lot but wanted to have wakeful control as well. I am a very open person and my hair is said to be very lush but I feel like this VGP can be used in the spiritual sense.

I was pretty good at lucid dreaming and even produced a few Astral Projections but my VGP took me farther than I expected. I would try this technique called WILD (wake induced lucid dream). You essentially meditate on bed and trick your body into believing you are sleeping and it starts producing dreams. You slip into a lucid dream without ever loosing consciousness. While attempting this type of meditation I was in this state where you loose sensation of your body and maintain mental awareness (while not having thoughts). Being aware without a thought was the hardest concept and skill by far for me to learn. But while attempting this I started to produce these goosebumps. I maintained the VGP for an hour or so and then the unimaginable happened.

I slipped out of my body, but not like an astral projection. I went into pure darkness but my mind seemed to open up to the knowledge of the universe. I was floating in a true void while I seemingly knew everything. I know it sounds weird but this was my experience. I can't really tell anyone because they all think I've lost my mind and try to explain it off as a dream. I was fairly adept at dreams and knew what I was experiencing. It felt like I stepped outside the veil of the physical world to experience the mental plain of existence. There's more to the story but perhaps another platform.

-Max Pendl

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@yoldone

My hairdresser said that my hair growth faster than normal.
On the internet just search "taiwan bald goosebump"

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as a 43 year veteran of hairdressing and the ability to control my goosebumps i can tell you now 100% theres no correlation between hair growth speed , and this phenomenon

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@abrahamdgreat

I happen to have it and some of the things I can note is that it can be used to detect open wounds and healing wounds (healed up but skin there hasn't completely formed), triggering it causes a little sensation (or pain), not sure if any form of wave is being emmitted from it (the injury) seeing as the whole sensation feels like a wave but there's that. Also if you happen to over stimulate it, it doesn't happen to work well, especially if you are sitting down. It's appears to be stronger in general when standing up, also happens to be stronger when you picture yourself pinching the back of your head (although that's not the only way to trigger it)

Also I am a very open person and it is said that one of the preliminary findings is that it is related to extreme openness.

Another thing is that, seeing as they say it shouldn't be possible to trigger it (goosebumps voluntarily) as it is an higher brain function, I have been able to teach myself skills, like difficult unique body related skills. I can shoot spit from my tongue on command (after stimulating it with salty or peppery food or waiting a while for it to fill up), I could bend my ears inside out, I can fold my lips inside out and let it remain in that position (I can control the bottom lip on demand once the upper one has been set in position and turn it back to normal on demand, amongst alot more that I have probably forgotten (I did most of these when I was a child). Everything I listed here was copied from friends or people because I thought they were cool at the time and I'm pretty sure they are not things everyone can probably learn, so there's probably that.

I was also able to stop myself from dreaming as a child on multiple occassions for close to 6 months at a time (I can't ascertain if my brain actually stopped it or stopped me from experiencing or remembering it, but I did at least 2 to 3 times), it continued because I subconciously missed it. I have been able to do it in my teenage years but it has been much harder and honestly speaking it's not something I put much interest in and it was probably not something I was open to. Also ,I wanted the dreams to stop because I was having nightmares and dreams about falling and stuffs like that, so that's why.

I'm still trying to figure it out, the most confusing part to me is the feeling that comes with it, feels way too special and unique too just be nothing, and seeing as some people can trigger it and send it to certain body parts ( I have noticed that I am starting to get better at this also). I won't be shocked if it is a form of communication with our body itself.

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VGP amplifies your immune system.

its like there is another one inside you actually.

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@abrahamdgreat

I happen to have it and some of the things I can note is that it can be used to detect open wounds and healing wounds (healed up but skin there hasn't completely formed), triggering it causes a little sensation (or pain), not sure if any form of wave is being emmitted from it (the injury) seeing as the whole sensation feels like a wave but there's that. Also if you happen to over stimulate it, it doesn't happen to work well, especially if you are sitting down. It's appears to be stronger in general when standing up, also happens to be stronger when you picture yourself pinching the back of your head (although that's not the only way to trigger it)

Also I am a very open person and it is said that one of the preliminary findings is that it is related to extreme openness.

Another thing is that, seeing as they say it shouldn't be possible to trigger it (goosebumps voluntarily) as it is an higher brain function, I have been able to teach myself skills, like difficult unique body related skills. I can shoot spit from my tongue on command (after stimulating it with salty or peppery food or waiting a while for it to fill up), I could bend my ears inside out, I can fold my lips inside out and let it remain in that position (I can control the bottom lip on demand once the upper one has been set in position and turn it back to normal on demand, amongst alot more that I have probably forgotten (I did most of these when I was a child). Everything I listed here was copied from friends or people because I thought they were cool at the time and I'm pretty sure they are not things everyone can probably learn, so there's probably that.

I was also able to stop myself from dreaming as a child on multiple occassions for close to 6 months at a time (I can't ascertain if my brain actually stopped it or stopped me from experiencing or remembering it, but I did at least 2 to 3 times), it continued because I subconciously missed it. I have been able to do it in my teenage years but it has been much harder and honestly speaking it's not something I put much interest in and it was probably not something I was open to. Also ,I wanted the dreams to stop because I was having nightmares and dreams about falling and stuffs like that, so that's why.

I'm still trying to figure it out, the most confusing part to me is the feeling that comes with it, feels way too special and unique too just be nothing, and seeing as some people can trigger it and send it to certain body parts ( I have noticed that I am starting to get better at this also). I won't be shocked if it is a form of communication with our body itself.

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i use the ability now to scan my whole body for things wrong ! while activating the process i combine breath work and pulse it throughout my whole body and any muscle stiffness gets highlighted and and released any vertebrae that are slightly out all pop back in ! , theres a lot more you can do with them combine concious emotion and intention with it at the same time , practice practice practice

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