Urostomy Bag and Dialysis

Posted by walpi1945 @walpi1945, Jun 22 11:14am

I have Stage 4 CKD GFR 15 CKD. Recently my GFR went down to 10 then up to 12 - to 15.

In 2015 I was diagnosed with Bladder Cancer when I was being treaated for Glomerulonephritis. After MVAC chemotherapy and
a Radical Cystectomy, the following year my GFR went from 99 to
30. I believe it is because now when one gets megadoses of Chemo,
there is every effort to dilute the chemo to a certain level by hydration.

I am now looking at dialysis. I am doing as much reseach as I can, as
I would prefer peritoneal dialysis as opposed to hemodialysis. The
hospital where I am being treated said ai cannot do Peritonneal
Dialysis with an Urotomy Bag. Another Hospital where I had the RC
says if there isn't a lot of scar tissue in the tummy, then peritoneal is
possible. Has anybody been in this situation? Patty PCLG

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@walpi1945 Patty, welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect.

I am on peritoneal dialysis. Prior to the catheter placement Dec 2021, the vascular surgeon did an ultrasound to "see" the prospects of a successful procedure. In 1999 I had a hysterectomy; that was my only abdominal surgery. I personally would defer to the surgeon who will do the possible catheter placement. Each person can be different. Scar tissue, which I had more of than they were expecting, can be a factor. It resulted in placing my catheter exit site higher, close to my waistline.

Here is a link from Home Dialysis Basics that speaks to doing dialysis when you have an ostomy or urostomy bag. In my humble opinion, it is a case-by-case situation. https://homedialysis.org/news-and-research/blog/220-identifying-and-overcoming-barriers-to-peritoneal-dialysis-pd#:~:text=BELIEF%3A%20Patients%20with%20an%20ostomy,PD%20in%20patients%20with%20ostomies.

You can click on the kidney and bladder support group tab on Mayo Clinic Connect home page. Once you are at the support group, under search discussions type in "dialysis" without the quote marks, to get a list of all the discussions about dialysis. Again, this is all individuals' experiences and information, so you may come across things not relevant to your own situation. But it's good to see what others are going through.

Please let me know if you have any specific questions I can help you with?
Ginger

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Hi Ginger,
Thank you so much for this information. I have a zoom appt with the doc who told me that
he didn't think the RC was such a big operation as to cause too much scar tissue. I will know
more on Monday. Your response was very hel[pful. I wil go to Kidney and Bladder and look
up dialysis. walpi1945Patty

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@walpi1945

Hi Ginger,
Thank you so much for this information. I have a zoom appt with the doc who told me that
he didn't think the RC was such a big operation as to cause too much scar tissue. I will know
more on Monday. Your response was very hel[pful. I wil go to Kidney and Bladder and look
up dialysis. walpi1945Patty

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@walpi1945 Well, let's be sure it is the renal cancer, first. When I had a suspicious area on my right kidney, we followed it with routine ultrasounds. Measurements, and high-def pictures as much as we could. Since my kidney function was already compromised, I couldn't do contrast exams. Eventually the urologist determined it was a cyst, by comparing the activity of the area. We had planned on removing that kidney after I started dialysis, if need be. I still have my right kidney...

Let me know what the Dr says, okay?
Ginger

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Hi Ginger, I didn't make myself clear. I have had Glomerulonephritis for the last 23 years, though chronic the last 5. I have had all the tests to see of the flare up was caused by the presence of cancer. So far negative.
I have received PETS for last 10 years because I had bladder cancer. They have all been "unremarkable".
I hav not had contrast dyes during these scans. Thank you so much. I will keep you posted.
WALPI1945.

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