Unable to assert myself at 73...I have Severe Osteoporosis

Posted by lane73 @lane73, Dec 26, 2025

I am on Prolia for Severe Osteoporosis but needed tooth extraction traction which can cause ONJ so together with that problem I also have EXTREME DENTAL PHOBIA so I had an appointment for a Consultation with a brusque and no nonsense Dentist albeit extremely good at his job he gave me an appointment for the extraction and told me I would lose all my teeth due to Gum disease but I need to have my teeth cleaned every 3 months and to go downstairs in the building nd get them done but I refused as I am too nervous...but now I am trapped ...I need the extraction and Dentists are rare and hard to come by..I am 74 and still as meek as I was as a teenager..Dentists are really expensive and hard to come by and this Guy knew more about Prolia and the dangers involved than my Doctor he told me ONJ was not rare as my Doc told me she knew Zero about it but im back on the 8th January for the EXTRACTION and then the cleaning which terrifies me as it takes an hour....SORRY FOR GOING ON BUT IM SO WORRIED

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I have found good, caring dentists are hard to come by but they're out there. I think you've been given some great advice!
Plus, put some weight on your bones to strengthen them. Lifting weights is a great way to exercise. I have osteoporosis, I'm 72 and am taking nothing except collagen powder. I ride my bike, walk and lift weights regularly. I'm praying I'm holding my own with bone density. Best of luck to you!

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are u sure u even have gum disease? during covid my dentist of 25 years decided to retire, i found a new young dentist near my home, on the first and only visit, he said i had Pyria and i needed to start immediately on doing a deep cleaning of my teeth, i had heard this was painful, also i didnt think i had any kind of gum /teeth disease going on. i had went to get my teeth cleaned, i didnt have any problems with my teeth. i asked if i could just get a routine cleaning anyway, and he refused to do this. i found another dentist who said i didnt have any thing wrong with my teeth at all and didnt need this expensive treatment. im the same age as you.

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@loribmt hi Lori and thanks for your reply..I worked as a Medical Secretary myself and found being pleasant as second nature..at 74 I have I can honestly say never been rude or short as we say in Ireland...I presume your American ...I have gone to assertiveness courses but to no avail but as you say this is a Good Dentist...another thing we Irish say is" he is a bit of a pig" but my GP is new and would not give anyone a Benzo..I have Neuropathy and needed a pain killer but she gave me Lyrica which did not agree with me ...
I stopped taking it....but I am caught now in the timeline of Prolia and this guy does know his stuff so my next appointment is the 8th..I was so embarrassed leaving his office I nearly fell out the door...omg the cringe..
So I will get the extraction and then do the cleaning and hope to God I don't get ONJ...I live in Galway the West of Ireland...as in Galway Bay....I will let you know the outcome of my next appointment and thank you for your kindness....Patricia

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@lane73

An idea: next appointment, if you find that your assertiveness is flagging, imagine that all of us here are standing behind and along side you and behind you for added strength. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

May the Force be with you!

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You might consider asking your primary doctor for an anti anxiety medication to take before your procedure. After one eye injection, I talked to my doctor and was prescribed Lorazepam. It made a world of difference. I only take it before the eye appointments.

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@stanfojc unfortunately my GP will not give ...she is new and no understanding of my predicament..I am in Ireland and we have catchment area Docs not easy now to change Docs and at nearly 74 I find it too much hassle I told the Dentist I had extreme phobia and in the Middle of the Consultation he asked me to get Cleaning done straight away..mine is not the pain anxiety but the feeling of not being able to breathe....😥

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@lane73 Good morning, from across the pond. ☺️ I’m chuckling with your comment about the dentist “being a bit of a pig”. I’ve had choice words about some myself but, well, I’m a ‘bit more assertive than you are’ and pig was too tame. 😂
Sorry to hear you also have neuropathy and had difficulty getting a medication from your doctor. However, that shouldn’t stop her (or your dentist!) from providing you with a one-time anti-anxiety medication for dental procedures. In the US it’s difficult to get these drugs too, but all I had to do is ask my doctor for lorazapam for procedures or if I have to fly. He knows that I am not one to take meds unless absolutely necessary. But I’ve had several 3 hour MRIs for which I needed to lie absolutely still. Well, that “ain’t” gonna happen without drugs!
Funny story…for my first MRI I was really anxious, being told it would be 3 hours and I’m claustrophobic. So my doctor actually recommended the lorazapam. Said to take 1 pill, an hour and a half before the appointment. Then 1 pill again at a half hour before and then…1 pill in the waiting room! I did. But I wasn’t feeling any differently when the tech brought me back into the room. I was concerned maybe it wasn’t working?
So I lay down on the table, the techs put a frame around my head, stuffed pillows around me, positioned me where I was supposed to be and then left the room. I heard the two techs, both males, talking to me over the microphone. I was comfy but not in the tube yet. Then the table moved into the tube and the disembodied voices asked if I was feeling alright and ready to get started. They asked if the lorazepam kicked in. I said, “How will I know?” The tech said, “You’ll feel like you downed a couple shots and have a buzz.” to which I replied, “I’m starting to feel it, but not ready to go home with anyone yet.” OMG the viewing room erupted with laughter and I was laughing so hard they had to come in to reposition my head! True story! 😂
Anyway my prescription that I have on hand is only 10-5mg tablets. And I only need 1 to do the job! So I hope you’ll at least try to call your family physician, explain the anxiety and that this isn’t something you’ll take daily. It’s for dental procedures only. It may help you get over the initial anxiety for the extraction and the first cleaning or so. After that you may not feel as fearful and no longer need them,

As for worrying about developing ONJ (Osteonecrosis of the Jaw) while using Prolia or other bone building medication, It’s very rare for healthy patients to develop this after an extraction. More often it is an infection of the bone that can happen in highly immune compromised people such as patients receiving chemotherapy. If it occurs in someone taking osteoporosis drugs, it’s treatable! People with osteoporosis who develop ONJ receive treatments such as oral rinses, antibiotics, and oral analgesics to ease pain. These treatments are usually effective. Hopefully this will allay some of your fears.

However, it’s great that your dentist has knowledge on how to approach the extraction because of the meds you’re taking. You may be given a special antibacterial mouthrinse right beforehand to reduce the bacterial load in your mouth.
After the extraction it’s important for the site to heal correctly. Your dentist will give your explicit instructions for after care. But here are some highlights: Make sure you keep biting on the gauze for the recommended time to help form a good blood clot. No swishing vigorously, no brushing near the site, no smoking or drinking through a straw for at least 48 hours to prevent a disruption of the blood clot. You can certainly brush your other teeth and if you feel the need, you can sip water in your mouth and let it gently roll over your tongue, then spit out. Just nothing vigorously.
Not sure if you’ll have sutures, though they can help close the site for better healing.
I know you were embarrassed about last visit. Just pull up those big girl panties, smile confidently, hold your head up, shoulders back and walk right into that appointment like you’re sure of yourself! You get a fresh do-over!Here’s to a Happy New Year!
Let me know how the appointment went, ok??

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@loribmt Lor I just won't do MRIs I am so claustrophobic that is my issue with the Dentist I recently had 2 hr surgery for skin cancer and only had local anaesthetic and was fine..I feel I cannot breathe when they put stuff in my mouth....I ate chocolate toffees over the Christmas the " Hound that I am " calling someone a Hound in Ireland means greedy anyway I have been dying ever since ....again we over exaggerate here " Im Dying " can mean hung over or just amused...the Dentist did give me Antibiotics to start 3 days before...the only plus is he does know his job..he said Happy Christmas to me before I left and I just stood there in shock before falling out the door..I obviously didn't make a good impression....but I was thinking of asking for earlier appointment because of pain now....an example of my low self esteem when in Scotland as a young one wearing open sandals on a Bus someone stood on my toes which was quite painful and I said I was sorry ...I kick myself for that...but I am in a bad situation with the Prolia..I am trapped so I have to get this done....il let you know if I am alive...ignore the drama in my comments I do have a great sense of humour...I wish the Dentist was a fan..🙈

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@loribmt it is my understanding that treatments for ONJ are treatable, but only minimally effective. Am I wrong? Have an appointment to discuss meds and am very concerned about ONJ

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@laura1970. I think it’s really a good idea having an appointment to discuss your medications and the upcoming dental extraction. Hopefully your dentist can reassure you that the potential for developing ONJ after the extraction is very rare. There are precautions taken prior, during and following the extraction to minimize the potential for infection.

The first priority post extraction is to keep the blood clot intact. I mentioned the preventive steps for that in a previous reply. ONJ can develop if the bone is openly exposed after the extraction with no blood clot or tissue covering the bone. In that situation, blood can’t reach the exposed area causing bone cells to die.

That’s why it’s crucial to make sure the blood clot isn’t disturbed once it forms. You can develop what’s referred to as a dry socket. That’s infrequent but if it occurs, it tends to be a lower molar area. The first indication of a dry socket being the extraction site might feel better for a day or two and then become painful again. You may have an unpleasant taste and/or odor.

If that happens call the dentist to be treated appropriately with the next steps…which generally are to rinse the site, pack the opening with a medicated iodoform gauze or other medicament to protect the bone while healing or if needed there may be a prescription for antibiotics.
I’m not sure where you’re getting the information but meds are effective in treating ONJ. There are 4 classifications of ONJ each with their specifics for treatment.

The statistical risk for developing ONJ for a non-cancer patient, as of August 2025 is 0.7%. That’s very low and should be pretty reassuring for you!

Here’s the entire article:
From MDPI with the study from the Journal of Clinical Medicine
Prevalence of Osteonecrosis of the Jaw Following Tooth Extraction in Patients with Osteoporosis: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysis
https://www.mdpi.com/2077-0383/14/17/5988
We have quite a few members in Connect who are taking meds for osteoporosis with similar concerns for dental care. Here are a few links with their discussions you may want to check out.
Dental extraction while taking Prolia,
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/dental-extraction-while-taking-prolia/
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10 years on Prolia and requiring extractions lower jaw
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/10-years-on-prolia-and-requiring-extractions-lower-jaw/
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Here is the search:
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/search/
Please let me know what you find out with your discussion. Have a list of questions ready for your doctor. I really feel that you’ll have a better understanding that the risk is low for ONJ. The greater risk is not having a healthy mouth, gum tissue and bones. Will you also ask about possibly having an anti-anxiety med pre-treatment?

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are u sure u even have gum disease? during covid my dentist of 25 years decided to retire, i found a new young dentist near my home, on the first and only visit, he said i had Pyria and i needed to start immediately on doing a deep cleaning of my teeth, i had heard this was painful, also i didnt think i had any kind of gum /teeth disease going on. i had went to get my teeth cleaned, i didnt have any problems with my teeth. i asked if i could just get a routine cleaning anyway, and he refused to do this. i found another dentist who said i didnt have any thing wrong with my teeth at all and didnt need this expensive treatment. im the same age as you.

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@jpatterson52 I had been diagnosed with Severe Osteoporosis with Spontaneous Fractures...of which i had two...I was eating chocolate and found my tooth was loose...so had two extractions...I did need the gum cleaning but as you say it was painful and expensive I wish I didn't have gum disease as I always had pride in my teeth😊

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@lane73

An idea: next appointment, if you find that your assertiveness is flagging, imagine that all of us here are standing behind and along side you and behind you for added strength. Good luck and let us know how it goes.

May the Force be with you!

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@gravity3 the Dentists did resemble Battle Star Gallactica...not a warm atmosphere but I am living in the past....😊

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I feel for you. Maybe you can take headphones and some relaxing music of your choice to your dental appointment. That might help take you away from what's going on. I know this sounds like a simple thing to do but it seems you're very limited in your dental options. Best of luck to you.

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@loribmt Lor I just won't do MRIs I am so claustrophobic that is my issue with the Dentist I recently had 2 hr surgery for skin cancer and only had local anaesthetic and was fine..I feel I cannot breathe when they put stuff in my mouth....I ate chocolate toffees over the Christmas the " Hound that I am " calling someone a Hound in Ireland means greedy anyway I have been dying ever since ....again we over exaggerate here " Im Dying " can mean hung over or just amused...the Dentist did give me Antibiotics to start 3 days before...the only plus is he does know his job..he said Happy Christmas to me before I left and I just stood there in shock before falling out the door..I obviously didn't make a good impression....but I was thinking of asking for earlier appointment because of pain now....an example of my low self esteem when in Scotland as a young one wearing open sandals on a Bus someone stood on my toes which was quite painful and I said I was sorry ...I kick myself for that...but I am in a bad situation with the Prolia..I am trapped so I have to get this done....il let you know if I am alive...ignore the drama in my comments I do have a great sense of humour...I wish the Dentist was a fan..🙈

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Hi @lane73 Oh my gosh, I’m laughing…I saw this post after I just replied to your previous post from yesterday! I’d love to sit down over a cuppa tea with you…I have a feeling there would be more laughter than conversation.

Being claustrophobic is a horrible feeling. I have gotten over the worst of it but still have issues during some situations so I feel your anxiety!
Lying prone through dental treatments can be an issue for many patients. I know you’re not a very assertive person, but you can tell the dentist that he’ll have better success if you could sit up a little more at an angle than lying flat. I’m not a fan either!! Even during cleanings. What can be very helpful is finding mental games to play that keep your focus off what’s happening in your mouth!
One thing that I like to do is visualize a word. Let’s say dentist! Then make as many words as you can starting with the letter D. Then move to letter E and so on. That little game takes a great deal of mental concentration and keeps your mind off the nonsense going on in your mouth. LOL. If you feel at all gaggy, the key is to take deep breaths through your nose!! Yes, it’s a challenge with your mouth open but it’s highly effective.

The news that your dentist did give you antibiotics to start 3 days prior is excellent news! So he is on top of the game!! I really REALLY hope you can relax for the fear of ONJ and get through this with flying colors!! I’m here if you need a back up. LOL. And I loved @gravity3 suggestion to “Let the force be with you!!” We’re standing protective of you, shoulder to shoulder, armed to the teeth…pun intended!

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