Has anybody successfully tapered off of lorazepam (Ativan)?

Posted by healthlady22 @healthlady22, Feb 5, 2019

Has anybody successfully managed to successfully wean off of Lorazepam?
If so how was it done?
And if it was by way of switching to other drugs, were you then able to taper off of those entirely under a doctor's guidance?
My husband has been on Lorazepam for 16 years
He did well for 14 years, but dragged his feet about trying to withdraw while he was feeling better.
In May he had a relapse of anxiety, and insomnia, with brain fog, heart palpitations, and more.
Currently he's doing better, thinking better, but still feels like crap a large part of the time, can't sleep without the drug, can't nap.and still struggles with anxiety.
At this point, I believe it's the drug that is actually causing the problem. Currently he's doing 1 mg at bedtime and 3/4 mg when he wakes up at 2:30 am.
I know it takes 2 years for the brains GABA receptors to normalize after taking Benzodiazepines.
Also know it's really hard to withdraw, has to be done extremely slowly, and the side effects are exactly the same as the symptoms it is meant to help.
My goal is to eventually wean him off of all drugs as functional health tests show they block his nutritional absorption and may be damaging his intestinal lining. I would like to be able to repair his health using nutrition, supplements, and neurotransmitter amino acids.
All feedback is welcomed!
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@kawanhee

I have been taking 7.5 mg mirtazapine during the wean for sleep and I feel better than I have for years. I’ve been off ativan for over three weeks now and feel fine. I believe the very slow wean made a difference this time (I tried a faster wean suggested by my doctor about a year ago but started up on it again)
If you’d like my complete weaning schedule let me know.

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Hi. I’m being weaned off by
my psychiatrist right now.
I do take CBD gummies
which are very helpful.

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@greenville

I was put on 1mg of ativan a day back in 1995 when I was hospitalized for anxiety and depression.
My Dr told me
a few years ago that they have found it can cause cognitive problems (which I have been having) A couple years ago I tapered to
.5mg a day. I am trying to taper off. I would love any support I can get.

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Please Google and read The Ashton Manual. This is the gold standard (at least in the UK where their NHI isn’t controlled by Big Pharma) for benzodiazepine drug discontinuation practices. US and Canadian doctors wean dangerously fast.

Do not chance a rapid taper. It’s serious stuff. If you fail and reinstate, each consecutive attempt will be harder for your body to adjust to causing major problems. Benzodiazepines now come with an FDA Black Box warning, of course doctors don’t read these, but benzodiazepines should NEVER be prescribed long term (over 4 weeks) and should be very slowly discontinued.

Also look at https://www.benzoinfo.com/
You will find all the info you need here, including the Ashton Manual.

There are some who are lucky and can just jump off these drugs fairly easily, but it’s a crap shoot. Better to start slowly and see how you feel. Do not bother telling your doctor about it. They know very little and you do not want to be ripped off these drugs rapidly by a nervous doctor.

If you doubt this, look at some of the online forums: Benzo Warriors on FB or BenzoBuddies.org and see what’s going on in the real world where people have been gaslighted by the medical profession simply because the medical profession doesn’t have time or money to research these very dangerous drugs. It’s not their fault, but most certainty aren’t bothering to learn anything new. You will see horror stories beyond belief, but also tremendous support. It’s all they have. Not for the faint of heart and, trust me, you do not want to become one of the rapid taper persons. Slow tapers can be bad enough. BTW, dosing every other or few days doesn’t make tapering off easier. The body needs a steady stream of the drug to alleviate interdose withdrawal while tapering. Ativan has a very short half-life so one would feel the withdrawal effects more quickly.

If you choose to stay on these drugs, they most likely will eventually stop working and your prescriber will suggest a higher dose when the SANE thing to do is to slowly taper off and use CBT and other coping techniques. Benzodiazepines are NOT recommended for anxiety or insomnia anymore. They never should have been. There is no research on long-term use (past 4 months). NONE! ZERO! ZILCH! That should make anyone worry.

Best of luck to anyone reading this on a benzodiazepine.

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It sounds like you have done your homework. Your husband is lucky to have you. It seems he is in tolerance, meaning the drug has stopped working and should be tapered very, very slowly. It probably won’t be easy, but he can heal his CNS with a very slow taper, clean nutrition, moderate exercise, coping skills and support. Supplements are not always recommended because the CNS is so stressed and over-sensitized. If you try any, go very low and very slow. Most people steer clear. Functional medicine is not necessary if they are just selling supplements. Many people end up having to taper off the supplements! Just eat a clean, plant-based diet and watch for histamine intolerance.

I’d recommend looking at the following link and any other info the site has to offer. Benzo Warriors on FB has every other weekly zoom meetings (Sunday nights) for caregivers of those tapering off of benzodiazepines. You could join that group for more information, but I would recommend that you not read too much into the posts as many are pretty scary. A lot of people have been cold turkeyed (rapidly tapered off) these drugs and are suffering horribly. Those who are tapering slowly and have good support do much better, but it’s still pretty tough for a lot of people.
https://www.benzoinfo.com/ashtonmanual/
This is a highly regarded site and responsible for getting the black box warning for benzodiazepines.

I wish you the best and please, if his doctor insists on a quick taper, tell them you’ve changed your mind and start hoarding pills. Most have given up on their doctors for anything more than a prescription. That is critical. Doctors do not know anything about slow tapers. It’s not in their education.

Best to you and your husband

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I just realized I was replying to a VERY old post. I hope the original poster is well and off of these drugs,

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@cgs

I went through about 4 or 5 years of multiple hospitalizations shock treatments all kinds of treatments for depression I had probably half a dozen psychiatrists that were very they were Hospital psychiatrists and also some private they all thought I had depression after I finally had another hospitalization and the doctor put me on ativan it was like a light switch being turned on before that I couldn't concentrate I had to stop driving I couldn't watch a movie I couldn't sit still I would sit and rock all the time when they put me on the Ativan and then the Klonopin it I was completely up a new person I was able to get my driver's license back after passing a medical examination I could do things again and I have never had any reason to think that the medicine did anything but good for me I was worthless without it I could my wife took care of me like a baby the doctor that I have now I've had for over 10 years and I have the one before that I had for about 10 years none of them have has ever suggested going off of the Klonopin and when I've asked the doctor that I have now because I quit taking my midday 1 mg I was taking three 1 mg a day now I just take two one in the morning and one at night and my my psychiatrist from a hospital in Richmond Indiana said that that was good if I was doing okay on two but he advised me not to try to get off of them so I I can't help but Wonder but I know everybody's different and maybe someday I may have to go through what some of these people are going through but I have been taking them since 1994 or 5 and I just don't see I just don't understand what I'm reading but I guess I can pray for the people that God will help them and I do have neuropathy and I take gabapentin for that and I know that's an incurable disease and I have degenerative disc disease and I have sciatica so I have some other things going on that are more pressing at the moment God bless you and I am glad that you are able to get off of it people question me all the time about getting off of it but I don't just I don't see myself doing that right now

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I truly hope that your ClonazePam keeps working for you. If you suddenly go into tolerance, you will understand why so many others have been forced to taper off. The smart ones choose to slowly taper off (and I mean years in your case) BEFORE they develop tolerance. Tolerance means your body is already exhibiting signs of withdrawal because the drug is no longer effective. Do you understand that?

No one is happy about having to suffer from excruciatingly long withdrawals. They were put on a medication that was never researched for long term use and took, as prescribed, not knowing the consequences.

Yes, the drugs can just stop working after 30-40 years on them. I know because it happened to me! Educate yourself if you wish, but don’t think those who have had to discontinue are fools. You could find yourself in a similar situation one day. I hope you don’t.

https://www.benzoinfo.com/ashtonmanual/
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@benzossuck

I would be interested in your weaning schedule My doctor also put me on mirtazapine but I had some side effects from that so I got it made it a liquid form and also tapering to a lower dose of this.. I would love to have more information on your taper, what dosage you started at and how long it took. Thanks so much

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I am currently taking 7.5 mg mirtazapine. I tapered lorazepam (Ativan.) Which are you trying to stop?

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Hi there, I’m so sorry your husband is having such a hard time getting off Ativan. I was on it for about 15 years. I just got tired of having to have it to function. One day I just decided to do it and I did. I didn’t do it slowly, I just did it. I never looked back. I’m so glad I did. I can honestly say I didn’t have any after effects. Maybe it was just a fluke but it worked for me. Good luck

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@cking56

It sounds like you have done your homework. Your husband is lucky to have you. It seems he is in tolerance, meaning the drug has stopped working and should be tapered very, very slowly. It probably won’t be easy, but he can heal his CNS with a very slow taper, clean nutrition, moderate exercise, coping skills and support. Supplements are not always recommended because the CNS is so stressed and over-sensitized. If you try any, go very low and very slow. Most people steer clear. Functional medicine is not necessary if they are just selling supplements. Many people end up having to taper off the supplements! Just eat a clean, plant-based diet and watch for histamine intolerance.

I’d recommend looking at the following link and any other info the site has to offer. Benzo Warriors on FB has every other weekly zoom meetings (Sunday nights) for caregivers of those tapering off of benzodiazepines. You could join that group for more information, but I would recommend that you not read too much into the posts as many are pretty scary. A lot of people have been cold turkeyed (rapidly tapered off) these drugs and are suffering horribly. Those who are tapering slowly and have good support do much better, but it’s still pretty tough for a lot of people.
https://www.benzoinfo.com/ashtonmanual/
This is a highly regarded site and responsible for getting the black box warning for benzodiazepines.

I wish you the best and please, if his doctor insists on a quick taper, tell them you’ve changed your mind and start hoarding pills. Most have given up on their doctors for anything more than a prescription. That is critical. Doctors do not know anything about slow tapers. It’s not in their education.

Best to you and your husband

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I have started a very slow taper. .5 one night 2/3 of that the next. I will be going up to 2/3 of the .5mg every night for awhile. Not sure what I'll do after that.

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@greenville

I have started a very slow taper. .5 one night 2/3 of that the next. I will be going up to 2/3 of the .5mg every night for awhile. Not sure what I'll do after that.

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That still seems too fast. Please look over the Ashton Manual for the correct tapering guidance if you don’t want to really suffer. ❤️

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