Talking Frankly about Living with Advanced Cancer

Are you living with advanced cancer (sometimes referred to as stage 4 or metastatic cancer)?
This discussion is a safe space where you can connect with others to talk about the realities of living with limited time. It's not easy to find people who understand what it is like. For many reasons, you may not feel comfortable talking about your thoughts and emotions with friends or family. Perhaps you are alone. Even if you are surrounded by people who support you, you may experience intense loneliness.

Connect is a place where honest conversation can safely take place. You can speak frankly and be heard without judgement. I invite you to share your reality facing death and living now.

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Profile picture for allisonsnow @allisonsnow

I got up to pea and saw all the lights left on! and since I am wide awake thought I would sign in. Just read the opening comment for the first time I believe. now I have tears slowly trailing down my face, friends really do not get it. and I don't think they want to. Who would? Why would you go on this emotional rollercoaster if you didn't have to? That can make for a lonely place and that is what is getting me down tonight/today. I get selfish and just because I need someone to talk to that "gets it" I expect them to be there. I am sure I have made this comment before ...but if one more person says "well everyone is going to die" "I could get hit by a bus tomorrow" ( and why always a bus?)????? It belittles our feelings as though dying of cancer is nothing special...they have to face dying also...so NOT THE SAME as we all know...it is special and takes a special person, someone brave, caring, loving and strong. Some days just wish I wasn't "so special" well back to bed and not sleeping. Have a good night and better morning to all.

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Oh, I don't feel very special or chosen. I am just a human being, no better no worse that is really going to die of cancer, if not get hit by a bus as everybody else, all those who are not going to die of cancer. Here in Sweden 98% say that if they aren't driven over by a car. Well, actually there aren't many who were driven over by stray cars or cats, lol!
Allison, I feel and know what you are talking about. They want to give us courage but they belittle us and doesn't understand how much it hurts. The worse are those who change the subject immediately as if the cancer through talking becomes contagious.
Hope you were able to sleep a bit more. My lovely girlfriend from my youth surprised us with her visit all the way from Toronto. Her presence has been a great comfort to my husband & me. Just love to be able to laugh, joke about anything and everything and be sure that she doesn't take it in the wrong way.
Dear Allison, in case of non- understanding people, turn a deaf ear to them & ask them many times to repeat what did they just said until the umpth time and then ask them innocently so your plan is to be hit by a bus? But I never wanted neither planned to die of cancer. How am I able to change to your category?
Take care & have fun,
Saltis

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Profile picture for allisonsnow @allisonsnow

I got up to pea and saw all the lights left on! and since I am wide awake thought I would sign in. Just read the opening comment for the first time I believe. now I have tears slowly trailing down my face, friends really do not get it. and I don't think they want to. Who would? Why would you go on this emotional rollercoaster if you didn't have to? That can make for a lonely place and that is what is getting me down tonight/today. I get selfish and just because I need someone to talk to that "gets it" I expect them to be there. I am sure I have made this comment before ...but if one more person says "well everyone is going to die" "I could get hit by a bus tomorrow" ( and why always a bus?)????? It belittles our feelings as though dying of cancer is nothing special...they have to face dying also...so NOT THE SAME as we all know...it is special and takes a special person, someone brave, caring, loving and strong. Some days just wish I wasn't "so special" well back to bed and not sleeping. Have a good night and better morning to all.

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@allisonsnow

So very true, Allison. Thanks for saying the words that we all wish we could say to others.

Teresa

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Profile picture for Maureen, Alumna Mentor @alpaca

This breaks my heart because I know what you are feeling and I'm so far away in New Zealand but I reach out to you across the waters. I've been lucky with my repeated cancers and have come back from the brink a few times - feel such compassion to those who have to really face up to their mortality more immediately. We all seem to live in denial of death - even older folk like me - until we are forced to confront it. That's when it hurts. But you are not alone. I get it. Much love to you.

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@alpaca... Thank You.... means a lot

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This breaks my heart because I know what you are feeling and I'm so far away in New Zealand but I reach out to you across the waters. I've been lucky with my repeated cancers and have come back from the brink a few times - feel such compassion to those who have to really face up to their mortality more immediately. We all seem to live in denial of death - even older folk like me - until we are forced to confront it. That's when it hurts. But you are not alone. I get it. Much love to you.

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I got up to pea and saw all the lights left on! and since I am wide awake thought I would sign in. Just read the opening comment for the first time I believe. now I have tears slowly trailing down my face, friends really do not get it. and I don't think they want to. Who would? Why would you go on this emotional rollercoaster if you didn't have to? That can make for a lonely place and that is what is getting me down tonight/today. I get selfish and just because I need someone to talk to that "gets it" I expect them to be there. I am sure I have made this comment before ...but if one more person says "well everyone is going to die" "I could get hit by a bus tomorrow" ( and why always a bus?)????? It belittles our feelings as though dying of cancer is nothing special...they have to face dying also...so NOT THE SAME as we all know...it is special and takes a special person, someone brave, caring, loving and strong. Some days just wish I wasn't "so special" well back to bed and not sleeping. Have a good night and better morning to all.

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Profile picture for nogginquest @nogginquest

Tomorrow I go in for radiosurgery on my pancreas.
When I was first diagnosed with stage IV pancreatic cancer, I was told that I was not a candidate for surgery or radiation. However, the cancer responded to Folfirinox/Folfiri treatments. The nearly two dozen tumors in my liver are resolved, and the 2inch tumor in my pancreas is a fuzzy haze on the scans. I'm slowly buying back time.

We are going in to zap the original source of the cancer and hopefully kill of a few more cancer cells.

My oncology teams said we are in uncharted territory, and there is a 2% chance the procedure could be fatal. There is also a chance that we could damage my small intestine. However, the benefits far outweigh the risks. We are trying to stay on top of the cancer.

I am 45, and I am fighting for my life. I'm both nervous and excited about this procedure. I'm also nervous about skipping chemo for a month. What if the cancer starts to grow somewhere else while we zap the pancreas?

Here's going into the big unknown.

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@nogginquest am thinking of you...Good Luck...sending a prayer

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Profile picture for nogginquest @nogginquest

Tomorrow I go in for radiosurgery on my pancreas.
When I was first diagnosed with stage IV pancreatic cancer, I was told that I was not a candidate for surgery or radiation. However, the cancer responded to Folfirinox/Folfiri treatments. The nearly two dozen tumors in my liver are resolved, and the 2inch tumor in my pancreas is a fuzzy haze on the scans. I'm slowly buying back time.

We are going in to zap the original source of the cancer and hopefully kill of a few more cancer cells.

My oncology teams said we are in uncharted territory, and there is a 2% chance the procedure could be fatal. There is also a chance that we could damage my small intestine. However, the benefits far outweigh the risks. We are trying to stay on top of the cancer.

I am 45, and I am fighting for my life. I'm both nervous and excited about this procedure. I'm also nervous about skipping chemo for a month. What if the cancer starts to grow somewhere else while we zap the pancreas?

Here's going into the big unknown.

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@nogginquest Hi there. I am a mentor for the mac/bronchiectasis group (lung diseases). Occassionally, posts from other groups cross my path and I read them. Your post caught my attention. You are an incredibly corageous person to chart your way through your illness the way you do. It sounds like you are making some good progress. Are you getting treatment at the Mayo Clinic? I wish you continued success with your treatments. I hope you stay in touch.

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Hello @nogginquest

I certainly admire your step "into the big unknown" as you so aptly phrase it! I will be thinking of you and I hope that all goes well.

Staying on top of cancer can be quite a journey as many of us know.

I'll look forward to hearing from you.

Teresa

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Tomorrow I go in for radiosurgery on my pancreas.
When I was first diagnosed with stage IV pancreatic cancer, I was told that I was not a candidate for surgery or radiation. However, the cancer responded to Folfirinox/Folfiri treatments. The nearly two dozen tumors in my liver are resolved, and the 2inch tumor in my pancreas is a fuzzy haze on the scans. I'm slowly buying back time.

We are going in to zap the original source of the cancer and hopefully kill of a few more cancer cells.

My oncology teams said we are in uncharted territory, and there is a 2% chance the procedure could be fatal. There is also a chance that we could damage my small intestine. However, the benefits far outweigh the risks. We are trying to stay on top of the cancer.

I am 45, and I am fighting for my life. I'm both nervous and excited about this procedure. I'm also nervous about skipping chemo for a month. What if the cancer starts to grow somewhere else while we zap the pancreas?

Here's going into the big unknown.

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Profile picture for allisonsnow @allisonsnow

Has started snowing supposed to get 6 in. but surprisingly I am in a good mood! got 3 GOOD hours of sleep ! so I am ambitious ...if I get half of my list done I will be satisfied. Does anyone here have that same problem? Even after all these years in my brain I am still healthy and I can breathe...so I make plans and get all excited and then reality sets in...
I am tired and panting on only my second time down the stairs to the basement. My back is killing from vaccumimg...reality can be a bummer sometimes. But today I am going to try to keep pushing thru, I feel so good when I can get stuff done!!!!!
That is important in our battle with cancer...no matter what kind...keep pushing thru...take breaks, give into the pain sometimes but then keep on going. I have found that it is the sitting and doing nothing may help my back but it wreaks havoc with my depression. I feel so worthless most of the time and my husband can have a sharp and mean spirited toungue sometimes. I don't think he means to most of the time but he gets frustrated also. He has had to deal with being told to "prepare" himself more than once that's for sure.
oohhh! shake that off and back to work !!! Keep pushing thru !!!!!

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I'm so glad for your good day. I've been playing a scavenger hunt all day. My local library, and my workplace, is offering a combination virtual and physical game this week.

BTW, I have stage IV pancreatic cancer, but I'm currently in partial remission. I'm trying to live as much life as possible while I can.

Keep living to the fullest, and enjoy every small victory.

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