Talking Frankly about Living with Advanced Cancer

Are you living with advanced cancer (sometimes referred to as stage 4 or metastatic cancer)?
This discussion is a safe space where you can connect with others to talk about the realities of living with limited time. It's not easy to find people who understand what it is like. For many reasons, you may not feel comfortable talking about your thoughts and emotions with friends or family. Perhaps you are alone. Even if you are surrounded by people who support you, you may experience intense loneliness.

Connect is a place where honest conversation can safely take place. You can speak frankly and be heard without judgement. I invite you to share your reality facing death and living now.

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Unexpected consequences of my aggressive Stage 4 prostate cancer. Year one was jump off the cliff horrible, pain misery beyond belief. Sleepless falls, broken bones, couldn't standup alone without assistance. Years two, Three, improvements, I started responding to the treatments. Year 4, best version. Numbers are good, but all that work in the gym, walks, mindful nutrition diet, mediation, chair yoga. Reading, constant trips to the library trying to read all the great books I've missed in my life. Loving family, supportive community. Leads to today looking in the mirror cancer and all I'm best version right now. Bless us all.

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I have been battling metastatic breast Cancer now for almost 7 years. I never thought I would live this long. I'm at the point where I'm afraid I will run out of money before I die. I had a terrible time this summer with pain due to a fractured vertabra. I had to hire full time (40 HR a week) help to do most everything for me. I didn't bother to see if I could afford it because I just simply needed it not to mention a dog sitter for my two dogs while I spent 23 days in the hospital. Things are finally getting better--much less pain after spine lapindectomy and radiation. More radiation for brain tumors and a tumor in my jaw. I've told my caregiver I need her only 20 hrs a week now which didn't go over well. I'd like to have her more but I just can't make ends meet. I've told everyone not to expect much for Christmas. My problem is when all this was going on I made my peace with death and was ready to go. I'm still ready. I don't have much quality of life, my money is running out and I'm afraid what will happen next year when I turn 65 and have to go on Medicare. I have good insurance now through my last employer but my understanding is Medicare
has lots of co pays for everything. Then there's that donut hole which I'm sure to hit fairly quickly with these out of the world cancer meds. I know I have the option of throwing in the towel and saying no more treatment but my cancer is actually fairly indolent most of the time and even if I just get palliative care I could live indefinitely. I could have said no to back surgery but I would have ended up paralyzed fairly quickly so I'm glad I did it. The brain lesions might or might not have lead to my death but I didn't want to end up severely cognitively impaired in my last time with my family. I am on blood thinners because I had a couple of DVTs last summer as well as a PE. I could stop taking those and see what happens

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@sistie
Sistie, it must be even harder to cope with financial stress on top of everything. I suggest you start looking into Medicare secondary insurance for Part B and for drugs. We have been satisfied with AARP's plans. After almost 5 years of extensive surgery and Chemos for my Ovarian Cancer, we have had complete coverage for all treatments. Re drugs, thanks to the Biden administration, there is no longer a donut hole this year. After you pay up to a certain amount of co-pay for drugs out of pocket/year, (I think it is $2100 in 2026) your drugs from the pharmacy are free of charge. Believe me, I'm in that category as of a month or two ago this year.

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@dlsmabrey, I'm so sorry that you've had to face a metastatic diagnosis. It's not easy on any of us. In 2024 I had an early-stage breast cancer, but I do have stage IV lung cancer. I'm treated with a targeted therapy. People don't know that I have cancer, and they don't know that I think about cancer every day, but that's the reality. Treatments have improved over the 5 years that I've had lung cancer, the same may true for your type of MBC. It's likely worth an updated conversation with your oncologist. They may have some suggestions for how to deal with the weight of the diagnosis too; palliative care, therapy, an in-person MBC group. I try to focus on today, and not what's ahead. The initial estimate that I received was 2 years. Right away I didn't believe it, and it wasn't correct, as I'm here 5+ years later. No one can predict what's to come. The fact that you feel good is a blessing, you don't feel like you're dying because you're not yet. There will be time for that later, but for now, try to live each day, one day at a time.

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I just had chemo today. I'm on Enhertu. PO med Letrozole. Every 6 months I
get an Xgeva shot.
I am doing conventional treatment in addition to the Chris Beat Cancer
program. Plus going to all organic, noncarcinogenic products. It's a lot.
Dr. Bronner, Betterway Health, Mrs. Meyer, ATTITUDE, Shower Envy, Clean
People, Clear Conscience, Just the goods, pHresh, Original Essiac Tea (
even if it tastes like dirt- tip drink it fast really cold), Bragg,
Metagenics, Lilly of the Valley, Anthony's Organic, Jiva Organic, Mineral
Fusion, and Breville.

I save on all the processed foods I used to eat, but it becomes even when I
add up all the stuff that I bought to be better without all the toxins.

And I had a really good day! My CA 15-3 marker is now within normal limits.
Doesn't mean I am cancer free, but that what we are doing is keeping the
cancer in check. My CT is on Tuesday...we will see what that shows.

Thanks for the thoughts! I appreciate it!

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I have MBC stage IV with Mets to bones initially. I was on Kisqali, Letrozole and Xgeva. Diagnosed April 2023.
I started having what I thought was sciatica in September of 2024. Turned out it was a tumor impinging on my sciatica nerve. I started on Chemo (Enhertu) in December.
I am thankful for the treatments available. The chemo has minor side effects and my scans show improvement.
I have tiptoed around the question....how much time do I have left?
I asked my surgeon when I was first diagnosed and she said typically 3 to 4 years... 3 years would be 2026.
On the outside I know everyone thinks I am doing so well. I even fool myself sometimes. It seems so unreal and sometimes I just cry uncontrollably when I'm alone.
I just don't feel like I'm dying. But I am scared.

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@dlsmabrey, I'm so sorry that you've had to face a metastatic diagnosis. It's not easy on any of us. In 2024 I had an early-stage breast cancer, but I do have stage IV lung cancer. I'm treated with a targeted therapy. People don't know that I have cancer, and they don't know that I think about cancer every day, but that's the reality. Treatments have improved over the 5 years that I've had lung cancer, the same may true for your type of MBC. It's likely worth an updated conversation with your oncologist. They may have some suggestions for how to deal with the weight of the diagnosis too; palliative care, therapy, an in-person MBC group. I try to focus on today, and not what's ahead. The initial estimate that I received was 2 years. Right away I didn't believe it, and it wasn't correct, as I'm here 5+ years later. No one can predict what's to come. The fact that you feel good is a blessing, you don't feel like you're dying because you're not yet. There will be time for that later, but for now, try to live each day, one day at a time.

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Dave, I really appreciate your candor about your situation. It’s comforting to me that you maintain some hope without sugar-coating your experience. Cheering you on over here in Massachusetts…

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@amywells thanks so much for your supportive comment. As you know it’s a roller coaster of emotions that we have to deal with as we deal with the disease. We have good/bad days. I just had another round of chemo so feeling a bit beat up today. This to shall pass. The Palliative Team upped my pain patches (thank you) My next Pet/Ct is 10/20 then more chemo. How’s things going for you? I do hope you’re feeling well.

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Profile picture for dlsmabrey @dlsmabrey

I have MBC stage IV with Mets to bones initially. I was on Kisqali, Letrozole and Xgeva. Diagnosed April 2023.
I started having what I thought was sciatica in September of 2024. Turned out it was a tumor impinging on my sciatica nerve. I started on Chemo (Enhertu) in December.
I am thankful for the treatments available. The chemo has minor side effects and my scans show improvement.
I have tiptoed around the question....how much time do I have left?
I asked my surgeon when I was first diagnosed and she said typically 3 to 4 years... 3 years would be 2026.
On the outside I know everyone thinks I am doing so well. I even fool myself sometimes. It seems so unreal and sometimes I just cry uncontrollably when I'm alone.
I just don't feel like I'm dying. But I am scared.

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@dlsmabrey I'm so sorry that you are going through this. I'm sure it's very scary for you, it would be for anyone. Hopefully you have support from family and close friends. I know it's easy for me to say just enjoy the little things but maybe that could distract you from your thoughts.

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I have MBC stage IV with Mets to bones initially. I was on Kisqali, Letrozole and Xgeva. Diagnosed April 2023.
I started having what I thought was sciatica in September of 2024. Turned out it was a tumor impinging on my sciatica nerve. I started on Chemo (Enhertu) in December.
I am thankful for the treatments available. The chemo has minor side effects and my scans show improvement.
I have tiptoed around the question....how much time do I have left?
I asked my surgeon when I was first diagnosed and she said typically 3 to 4 years... 3 years would be 2026.
On the outside I know everyone thinks I am doing so well. I even fool myself sometimes. It seems so unreal and sometimes I just cry uncontrollably when I'm alone.
I just don't feel like I'm dying. But I am scared.

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Tanx Isadora your post has given me some hope. I’m led to believe there’s little hope for me. Maybe 4-12 months. Maybe I’ll get lucky and see some remission. Or perhaps there’s a drug trial out there that” ll become available. Any improvement would be welcome.

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Dave, I really appreciate your candor about your situation. It’s comforting to me that you maintain some hope without sugar-coating your experience. Cheering you on over here in Massachusetts…

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@merpreb I must confess I do at times feel survivor guilt even though I know that I couldn’t have done anything. It’s especially traumatic when it’s a young person who hasn’t had a chance to grow up. Tears my heart up even more when it’s a parent with young children. I am now 62 after stage 4 incurable appendix cancer diagnosis in 2021. I’ve had a wonderful fulfilling life and continue to make sure I do. Not to waste what I’ve been granted.

Yet I do sometimes feel guilt I’m still here and guilt that, if I could do a swap with God, I’m not sure I could be generous enough to swap.

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Tanx Isadora your post has given me some hope. I’m led to believe there’s little hope for me. Maybe 4-12 months. Maybe I’ll get lucky and see some remission. Or perhaps there’s a drug trial out there that” ll become available. Any improvement would be welcome.

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I'm very glad to hear that Palliative Care is supportive. I know what you mean about emotional discussions. I've been on both sides--my first husband died as a young man and I took care of him. Now at 71 I have a cancer with a poor prognosis (although I'm doing quite well and have outlived the initial prediction) and find myself in similar conversations but from the opposite perspective. All I can say is that even if difficult these conversations have been invaluable to me--I treasure them. Wishing you all the best today.

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Tanx Miriam. Sorry to hear about your husband and what you’re going through. I’m trying to prepare for a follow up Pet/Ct after my last treatment. I’ve heard it referred to as scanutitus; the waiting and wondering. All the what ifs. I’m just trying to keep occupied with other things so not to dwell on anything I can’t control. Mayo connect is one way to get over feeling isolated.

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