Talking Frankly about Living with Advanced Cancer
Are you living with advanced cancer (sometimes referred to as stage 4 or metastatic cancer)?
This discussion is a safe space where you can connect with others to talk about the realities of living with limited time. It's not easy to find people who understand what it is like. For many reasons, you may not feel comfortable talking about your thoughts and emotions with friends or family. Perhaps you are alone. Even if you are surrounded by people who support you, you may experience intense loneliness.
Connect is a place where honest conversation can safely take place. You can speak frankly and be heard without judgement. I invite you to share your reality facing death and living now.
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I am now in my 3 rd cycle of chemo for leiomyosarcoma. I went from stage two in Nov 24 to aggressive stage four in March 2025. Wow! That was quick but the CT scans were so vague in December it was not found sooner.
How is it to be stage four? Difficult at times when my chemo fatigue rules, other times I am quite normal except for being a house hermit. I miss my friends even tho I get cards and food gifts. I miss my activities like golf ( which I am too fatigued or it too hot outside) and my bunko girls, and choir and church. And they miss me. My social life consist of dr appts, massage, pt, . My spouse is depressed cause he can't plan our next big adventure. My kids are cautious. I can only see the grands when their noses aren't running ( which is most of the time)
So what do you do until the next scan: research next steps such as perpetual chemo therapy for stable lesions; or liver ablation or liver resection for greatly reduced lesions. When do you do this, why do this, what's the answer??
As you can see living with advanced cancer is full of questions, most which can't be answered until the next scan.
Sometimes when gardening I have the most peace because my mission at that point is to not understand my cancer but rather to obliterate that next weed, and to trim the roses for the next bloom, and plant the next flat of flowers that I overbought at the market. It's about the only time I don't think of my short future or how to prolong it. It is my solace.
Everyone says I'm doing great. But am I?. I never really know. But like gardening I focus on the next task like it is a weed. I try to plant love with my family. I try to care for my caregivers with love. Thanks for letting me share.
Yes, scans can be behind the cancer antigen; 125 in your case. Nodules and lesions have to be large enough to see. In my type of cancer (pancreatic) smaller nodules or lesions can be seen with endoscopy.
Has any one had conflicting diagnostics? I had PET/CT and Singtura, both cancer free. Yet my CA125 is rising. My oncologist prescribes a CT with contrast to see any tiny cells. She says it’s unusual to have this type of test discrepancy…anybody have similar experiences? In the mean time I’m focusing on the two “no cancer” tests.😊
I love your reflections, Ginger. You speak for me and I’m sure many others. THANK YOU❤️
@bradthompson88 Thank you for sharing. Many of us reading your words, whether or not we are experiencing advanced cancer, can relate. As for "jumping all over the place", your mind led you to write as you wrote, so it is in the order you needed. When I write, I rarely if ever edit anything; it just is as my mind placed it.
For myself, I often wonder about the legacy my life may leave behind. Having an incurable blood cancer that cannot be addressed by the more common method of stem cell transplant due to my kidney disease that is separate from that blood cancer, I am stuck for Life in the limbo of daily dialysis. Not a kidney transplant candidate due to the blood cancer. A never-ending circle. And at this time I have a "hard no" when it comes to switching to hemodialysis over my peritoneal dialysis if there was to be complications.
So, each day I am grateful for my feet hitting the floor. Even if I cannot feel the floor with my left foot due to neuropathy! And each day I attempt to be a role model of what one can do with limited energy or limiting health concerns. No, I won't do the dunk tank at our little town's 4th of July celebration, but I can sell tickets for it! I can't march in the parade but I can drive my friend's 1947 Mercury for him.
Am I scared? Sometimes. But I want to think that over the decades, I have helped make a difference.
Ginger
This topic touches my soul every time I log onto it, so contemplative. I am finally coming to terms, after 4.6 years, that I am not the guy I thought I was. I am very different. The old me, pre-diagnosis gone, replaced by the new guy. The new guy, because of all the work he's put into living with advanced cancer feels like a better version. Quality of life is everything to the new guy. Exercise much, mindful of nutrition with every bite, sociableness, make connection with the world/people outside of your self daily, love much and discover joy. Awaking's happen in a mind the seeks. The new guys has advanced prostate cancer but his mind still is still growing.
I can relate to a lot of what you said. Cancer has taught me a lot, most of which I never wanted to know. But, I learned that the real me isn't the physical me. To the folks that care about me, and they aren't always in my daily life, it is the positive impact that I have had on them. Ever have a student, now an adult, bump into you and thank you for helping them through something? Do you always remember? It is ok if you don't. They do. I commend you for bearing your soul. That takes courage. But, letting it out helps you mentally and emotionally prepare for what tomorrow brings. None of us know what that is. Also, if a student, once a student always a student, wants to open a door for you in a physical moment of weakness, let he or she. It is their way of saying thank you. Allow yourself that moment. You earned it.
I am recently diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic adenocarcinoma that has metastasized to my liver and other places.
I’m reading lots about this disease and haven’t even started chemo yet.
But, since I’m in palliative care, my thoughts alternate between many years of remission to short term fatal illness. I feel compelled to get my affairs in order but I don’t dwell on an early death often.
I share everything with my wife of 33 years but I do worry that as she becomes my caregiver, I may overburden her with my feelings.
Maybe I will be able to teach this fall? Maybe not. How much will I be able to do with chemo? Will I end up going to ER with complications? How do we continue with one income? I am a band and Career and TEch Ed. Teacher and I LOVE teaching. It is more than my job, it is part of who I am. I believe in relationships so I work hard on building them with my peers and my students. Our school is k-12 of 180 kids so summer small…hence wearing 2 hats.
Not being able to teach means there will be no band or CTE classes as the teacher shortage is much worse than the media portrays. I already feel the guilt of things I may not be able to do; Someday, hold a grandchild, give advice to my grown sons like my dad did for me. Take my boys fishing…
Dealing with the guilt of letting all my students down(though completely irrational I know) is something I think about.
Losing weight and becoming weaker…how my kids will see me. How my wife will eventually have to bury me. How we won’t be able to grow old together.
Everything is still so new and raw. I like to think I am at peace for me, but how it will affect everyone else is what hurts.
I am 55 and in very good health and am going to try to do some clinical trials along with my chemo. We live 380 miles from Mayo in Rochester so that is where I will go except for regular chemo.
I don’t know if I should look to a therapist (I used one several years ago when bad bosses pushed me over the edge) to talk to because no one around me in my small town of 700 has this disease or anything like it.
My family and my wife’s family have been wonderful, but I dont want to be that person that has to always talk about the cancer. I want normal stuff when we visit.
Anyway, I go back tomorrow for a 2nd attempt at liver biopsy. Ct guided this time as tumors are so small. Then the port gets put in. Once that is in I feel like if I have denial, it will go away.
The crazy part is I feel completely fine. They found the cancer because I got pancreatitis. There weren’t even looking for it. I thought it was a complete gift to catch it early…only to find it had moved to my liver and lymph nodes and possibly in my thyroid as well. So much hopes going up then pushed way down. It’s a roller coaster and I hate roller coasters.
My wife and I are planners and this has shattered our ability to make plans.
Did I mention that we gutted our kitchen a week before the cancer diagnosis? I was going to do some of the work to save $$. Thankfully, small town contractor whose kid I teach will add that to what he was already going to do.
They are working really hard to get things put together before I start chemo so I have a place to crash(we are living in our basement now.)
As I reread this I can see how jumpy my thoughts are. I do type them out in a google doc for my benefit and so my wife can read them someday. Thanks for letting me get this off my chest. It makes me feel a bit better talking with people that will get it.
Hello all, I am sitting here crying, My husband went in for a cardiac catheterization on March 13 that turned to a nightmare. He coded twice and died the next day. He never was conscious so I could not say a goodbye to him that he could hear.
Just like you I talk to him and hold him in my heart.
Love, Eileen
Hi Lauren,
I'm so sorry to hear of the death of your wonderful husband. I know it's hard to lose a loved one. My husband died last July, 2024. I miss him terribly. I believe what you said about your husband coming to you the night after he died. That's wonderful! I feel my husband's presence after he died also. Both of our husbands are up in Heaven and out of pain. We will be with them eventually in God's time. It's just hard waiting. What helps me is prayer and a lot of it. I also talk to my husband. That helps too.
I wish you the best and will say a prayer for you.
PML