Surgery for lymphedema

Posted by dcollier @dcollier, May 22, 2019

Has anyone had one of the surgeries for lymphedema, if so was it successful?

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@gerjuanna

@lifetraveler i appreciate your support… people that’s not dealing with these issues truly don’t understand how difficult living in these situations truly are. My entire look at life has changed, I think about depth more than a person ever should… enjoying life is forced from me when it shouldn’t be.
I pray for a miracle, I pray that this goes away, I’ve been crying for 3 days straight!! Omg.
You support for me means a lot.
And if I can help you (even though I’m at my lowest) I will, I’m not strong & im tired. Seems like I’ve been surviving all my life & im so tired of living in survival!
Thanks for your kind words I needed that.

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Dear Gerjuanna:

Thank you so much for your kind words, for they truly encourage me more than you realize it! So you see? You already helped me without knowing it, my friend:)

I know you are exhaustingly tired dealing with all these pains, @gerjuanna, but please allow me to remind you that you are strong and you will overcome all these challenges in life with adequate treatment. I pray that the gracious Lord grants you faith, hope, wisdom and strength to seek out the best physicians to help you develop the best treatment plan for you to conquer all the pains that this disease brought us. We will continually keep you in our thoughts and prayers to walk with you (in spirit) through these rough patches in the journey of life.

You shall overcome, my friend; for the grace of God is sufficient for us all!

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@gerjuanna

Hello, I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2020. They took 16 lymph nodes from me! My arm is swelling up and I’m feeling really bad. Starting to cry every day about my precious body… I would have NEVER recommended that amount of lymph nodes to be removed from my body… I know how hard I’ve worked to keep a healthy body, Not perfect but I try & struggle daily with being healthy.
Is there any hope for lymphedema????
I feel like fluids are invading my body.
I’m so upset as I type, tears are not stopping. I feel so violated also disgusted. This feeling is getting stronger.

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My heart goes out to you. I only had 3 removed and am having lots of lymphedema issues. The best advise I can give you is to keep seeking out a good massage therapist that has knowledge of lymphatic massage. I go every other week and do what I can in between. I will never stop. It is the best thing for me. I have also tried and ,when it’s not too hot , use compression. It does help. I hope you have a major turn around and find the help you need.

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@jkh

My heart goes out to you. I only had 3 removed and am having lots of lymphedema issues. The best advise I can give you is to keep seeking out a good massage therapist that has knowledge of lymphatic massage. I go every other week and do what I can in between. I will never stop. It is the best thing for me. I have also tried and ,when it’s not too hot , use compression. It does help. I hope you have a major turn around and find the help you need.

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@jkh Thank you for sharing!! I’ve been crying now for the 4th day I was fine until I logged onto this app and read all the messages lol, Very informational app, also a very emotional app. Omg you only had 3 removed 🥹 and you’re experiencing/experienced lymphedema… 16 nodes taken is serious… I pray for us all.
Thank you, I really really appreciate you speaking to me. ❤️

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@jkh

My heart goes out to you. I only had 3 removed and am having lots of lymphedema issues. The best advise I can give you is to keep seeking out a good massage therapist that has knowledge of lymphatic massage. I go every other week and do what I can in between. I will never stop. It is the best thing for me. I have also tried and ,when it’s not too hot , use compression. It does help. I hope you have a major turn around and find the help you need.

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@jkh before I log off, I meant to ask you… do they have something for lymphedema that can drain the fluid out of your body? Like a pump/or suction? (Other than a massage… something that drains the fluid out?

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@gerjuanna

@jkh before I log off, I meant to ask you… do they have something for lymphedema that can drain the fluid out of your body? Like a pump/or suction? (Other than a massage… something that drains the fluid out?

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@gerjuanna I am not aware of anything but don’t be shy to ask. The massage for lymphedema is very light touch as our lymph system is located so near to the surface of the skin.

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@gerjuanna

Hello, I was diagnosed with breast cancer in 2020. They took 16 lymph nodes from me! My arm is swelling up and I’m feeling really bad. Starting to cry every day about my precious body… I would have NEVER recommended that amount of lymph nodes to be removed from my body… I know how hard I’ve worked to keep a healthy body, Not perfect but I try & struggle daily with being healthy.
Is there any hope for lymphedema????
I feel like fluids are invading my body.
I’m so upset as I type, tears are not stopping. I feel so violated also disgusted. This feeling is getting stronger.

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Add castor oil poultice to area. I have breast cancer and a broken collar bone. When nodes were removed that arm wasn't doing as well as unbroken collar bone. So I made up castor oil on soft absorbing cloth and as I watched a movie it did it's job.
I hope it helps like it did me.

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@gerjuanna

@jkh before I log off, I meant to ask you… do they have something for lymphedema that can drain the fluid out of your body? Like a pump/or suction? (Other than a massage… something that drains the fluid out?

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There are surgeries that specifically address the flow of lymph fluid through the lymph nodes and also sometimes by connecting them to blood vessels to restore flow. Long before you’re even considered a candidate for this, you have to be evaluated and they will determine that you either have a blockage which might be able to be addressed Surgically by implanting a stent between the lymph node and a blood vessel, or you have lost lymph function and a transfer of lymph nodes from one part of your body into the area of your body affected by Lymphedema can be attempted. The surgery are often not covered by insurance, considered somewhat experimental still, and is always the fact, there is no guarantee that they will solve the problem. What I discovered the missing link to be in my evaluation and treatment of lymphedema in my right upper extremity. Was that a referral. Her medical evaluation of lymphatic flow was never considered until I researched it on my own, discovered that these options existed, and called a facility where they were provided on my own to find out how I would go about scheduling a consultation. I think that’s an excusable and I think it happens more often than we realize. It is my personal belief that any of us who feel we are not benefiting either at all or well enough from established procedures, massage, garments, pumping, etc., should receive a referral For evaluation of lymphatic flow Only then will you know exactly what it is that you’re dealing with. You will also know if surgery might be an option and how to proceed down that path. I felt that in my case the patient was the one asking the right questions and seeking the right information. The “professionals “were busy, suggesting, lose weight, exercise, more, are you wearing your garment all the time, are you doing MLD? It was my experience that when I answered affirmatively to all of the above, they just didn’t believe me. Because if they had believed me, they would’ve thought for a moment and said, maybe this is a surgical patient. But that didn’t happen in my case, and my searching for greater help with my Lymphedema was completely self driven. It shouldn’t be that way.

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@tullynut

There are surgeries that specifically address the flow of lymph fluid through the lymph nodes and also sometimes by connecting them to blood vessels to restore flow. Long before you’re even considered a candidate for this, you have to be evaluated and they will determine that you either have a blockage which might be able to be addressed Surgically by implanting a stent between the lymph node and a blood vessel, or you have lost lymph function and a transfer of lymph nodes from one part of your body into the area of your body affected by Lymphedema can be attempted. The surgery are often not covered by insurance, considered somewhat experimental still, and is always the fact, there is no guarantee that they will solve the problem. What I discovered the missing link to be in my evaluation and treatment of lymphedema in my right upper extremity. Was that a referral. Her medical evaluation of lymphatic flow was never considered until I researched it on my own, discovered that these options existed, and called a facility where they were provided on my own to find out how I would go about scheduling a consultation. I think that’s an excusable and I think it happens more often than we realize. It is my personal belief that any of us who feel we are not benefiting either at all or well enough from established procedures, massage, garments, pumping, etc., should receive a referral For evaluation of lymphatic flow Only then will you know exactly what it is that you’re dealing with. You will also know if surgery might be an option and how to proceed down that path. I felt that in my case the patient was the one asking the right questions and seeking the right information. The “professionals “were busy, suggesting, lose weight, exercise, more, are you wearing your garment all the time, are you doing MLD? It was my experience that when I answered affirmatively to all of the above, they just didn’t believe me. Because if they had believed me, they would’ve thought for a moment and said, maybe this is a surgical patient. But that didn’t happen in my case, and my searching for greater help with my Lymphedema was completely self driven. It shouldn’t be that way.

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Exactly

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@tullynut

There are surgeries that specifically address the flow of lymph fluid through the lymph nodes and also sometimes by connecting them to blood vessels to restore flow. Long before you’re even considered a candidate for this, you have to be evaluated and they will determine that you either have a blockage which might be able to be addressed Surgically by implanting a stent between the lymph node and a blood vessel, or you have lost lymph function and a transfer of lymph nodes from one part of your body into the area of your body affected by Lymphedema can be attempted. The surgery are often not covered by insurance, considered somewhat experimental still, and is always the fact, there is no guarantee that they will solve the problem. What I discovered the missing link to be in my evaluation and treatment of lymphedema in my right upper extremity. Was that a referral. Her medical evaluation of lymphatic flow was never considered until I researched it on my own, discovered that these options existed, and called a facility where they were provided on my own to find out how I would go about scheduling a consultation. I think that’s an excusable and I think it happens more often than we realize. It is my personal belief that any of us who feel we are not benefiting either at all or well enough from established procedures, massage, garments, pumping, etc., should receive a referral For evaluation of lymphatic flow Only then will you know exactly what it is that you’re dealing with. You will also know if surgery might be an option and how to proceed down that path. I felt that in my case the patient was the one asking the right questions and seeking the right information. The “professionals “were busy, suggesting, lose weight, exercise, more, are you wearing your garment all the time, are you doing MLD? It was my experience that when I answered affirmatively to all of the above, they just didn’t believe me. Because if they had believed me, they would’ve thought for a moment and said, maybe this is a surgical patient. But that didn’t happen in my case, and my searching for greater help with my Lymphedema was completely self driven. It shouldn’t be that way.

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Did you have the surgery? Was it helpful?

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I have had the LNT surgery completed 3 1/2 years ago. It was successful and reestablished some degree of lymphatic function in a right arm that had none. I am on the list now for the lesser surgery, placing a stent in the area of the wrist and possibly in the upper arm area where they believe there are blockages. There are so many people in need of these surgeries and so few surgeons specifically trying to do them that my waiting list for the second surgery is 14 months long. However, if I get another episode of cellulitis, it will bump me earlier. Lymphedema is truly the gift that keeps on giving for some of us.

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