Sugar abstinence for prostate cancer

Posted by firespooks @firespooks, Dec 20, 2022

Has anybody’s doctor told them to abstain from sugar because it feeds cancer cells ? Thank you Stephen Casper

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Profile picture for bluegill @bluegill

Hi

Just now when I went to my bookmarked Youtube page, the video awaiting my viewing was precisely about this topic. I think they are legit doctors, but it is on my list of questions for my urologist on Tuesday ("Is Dr.Mark Scholz from the Prostate Research Institute legitimate?")

Anyway, here it is:

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PCRI is definitely legitimate. Very pro-radiation and not hot on surgery.

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Profile picture for cecilbaker55 @cecilbaker55

I have been reading that sugar is the primary fuel of cancer. It has been recommended that all sugars, including fructose, be eliminated from my diet. I love my blueberries! Is there truth and science to this assertion?

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NO…neither!

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Profile picture for cecilbaker55 @cecilbaker55

I have been reading that sugar is the primary fuel of cancer. It has been recommended that all sugars, including fructose, be eliminated from my diet. I love my blueberries! Is there truth and science to this assertion?

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My urologist told me that fruit, including berries help with absorption and are good to eat. He gave me one example saying eat an orange instead of orange juice. Both of my doctors mentioned to stay away from red meat, and cured meats like ham and bacon.

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Profile picture for northoftheborder @northoftheborder

Once again, your body runs on sugar. More-complex carbs and proteins get broken down to glucose during the digestive process. If you somehow managed to stop your body from producing enough glucose to feed the cancer cells, your brain (among other organs) would fail as well

OTOH, since weight gain and diabetes are both common complications of hormone therapy, it is still a very good idea to go *extremely* easy on the refined sugar. Just don't expect it to stop your cancer. Best of luck, everyone!

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This is what always confused me about the idea of consuming sugar and "feeding" prostate cancer. If it's a legitimate concern, I hope someone can explain why this argument isn't valid.

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Profile picture for cecilbaker55 @cecilbaker55

I have been reading that sugar is the primary fuel of cancer. It has been recommended that all sugars, including fructose, be eliminated from my diet. I love my blueberries! Is there truth and science to this assertion?

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Testosterone is the primary fuel feeding prostate cancer. The standard list of drugs to combat this cancer are mostly designed to reduce the production of testosterone. This includes abiraterone, apalutamide, bicalutamide, Casodex, docetaxel, eligard, enzalitamide, apalutamide, jevtan, lupron, extandi, zytiga and so on. A radical orchiectomy is the ultimate attempt to stop testosterone production. Overall diet is important, but testosterone is the key driver.

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Profile picture for villageidiot @villageidiot

This is what always confused me about the idea of consuming sugar and "feeding" prostate cancer. If it's a legitimate concern, I hope someone can explain why this argument isn't valid.

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Too much sugar is not good for your metabolism; it can lead to diabetes and heart issues.
As far as cancer is concerned, most evidence is anecdotal, not hard science.
Cancer cells have the ability to consume sugar, proteins, fats, carbs, ketones, glutamine - in fact, most waste products in your body…EVERYTHING you see on the internet that some crackpot guru tells you “feeds” cancer.
@kjacko’s remark about whole fruits vs juices is an excellent one, and it has more to do with glycemic load (your body’s rapid production of insulin in response to a lot of sugar). Juices are pure sugar water, whereas whole fruits contain fiber and pectin which slow down the absorption of sugar, and thereby the production of too much insulin.
However, prolonged glycemic load over months and years could lead to “hyperinsulinemia” - or simply the production of too much insulin and THAT has been implicated in cancer growth and progression (and diabetes).
But that process is extremely complex and eliminating all sugar from your diet is NOT going to prevent cancer.
But this is just my opinion and you really have to do your own research, using sources such as the NIH, JAMA, or university research papers. Reading books by Dr Gundy and Dr Mercola is a waste of your time and energy. Best
Phil

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Profile picture for toolbelt @toolbelt

Look at the diet protocol for typical PET scans. It is a low sugar diet. The reason pet scans work is because tumors typically have a high consumption of sugar because they have a high metabolism. PSMA pet scans work differently so you do not have to be on a low sugar diet. Having said that, if the basis of a typical PET scan is the tumor's uptake of sugar, it would follow that reducing sugar may reduce energy availability for the tumor. I have greatly reduced my own uptake of sugar by reading labels, seeing which fruits have lower sugar content, and generally reducing portions . I am also doing this because I am on Orgovyx and I am trying to avoid the weight gain that so many people report. Worst case scenario, it will do no harm.

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Yes. Look at the FDG PET scan, which is typically used for cancer diagnosis. FDG is a radioactive glucose -- glucose because it tends to get sucked up by cancer cells. This scan is useless in prostate cancer according to a radiation oncologist that I once saw at MSK, because prostate cancer is somewhat of an outlier in the way it reacts to sugar.

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I was reading the other day that we're supposed to cut down on milk.

While the research finding are inconclusive clinicians may recommend to the patients who are at higher risk of prostate cancer development to eliminate or reduce the consumption of milk or milk products, especially those with high fat content.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8255404
So I'm gonna give up.... reading.

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Profile picture for peterj116 @peterj116

I was reading the other day that we're supposed to cut down on milk.

While the research finding are inconclusive clinicians may recommend to the patients who are at higher risk of prostate cancer development to eliminate or reduce the consumption of milk or milk products, especially those with high fat content.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8255404
So I'm gonna give up.... reading.

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I watched a podcast where the prostate nutrition expert highly encouraged avoiding milk. She encouraged drinking plant based milk, and suggested Ripple as the alternative.

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Profile picture for koji480 @koji480

Yes. Look at the FDG PET scan, which is typically used for cancer diagnosis. FDG is a radioactive glucose -- glucose because it tends to get sucked up by cancer cells. This scan is useless in prostate cancer according to a radiation oncologist that I once saw at MSK, because prostate cancer is somewhat of an outlier in the way it reacts to sugar.

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Some people’s prostate cancer does not produce PSMA. In those cases, a PSMA PET scan can’t find anything. Neuroendocrine prostate cancer in particular can’t be seen.

The FDG PET scan is the recommended scan to use next to try to find metastasis that do not produce PSMA.

More information

If prostate cancer cells do not produce PSMA, a PSMA PET scan will not be effective in detecting metastasis. However, in such cases, FDG PET scans (which target glucose metabolism) may be able to visualize metastasis. This is because some prostate cancers, particularly advanced or neuroendocrine types, can rely more heavily on glucose metabolism for energy and thus show up on FDG PET scans.

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