SpaceOAR and pickleball

Posted by mccannr @mccannr, 4 days ago

Hello all,
My patient handout for upcoming brachytherapy says in bold type "...no tennis...for three months.." I was told this is because the SpaceOAR doesn't like to be jostled. I would appreciate any experiences you have had playing pickleball or being active with the spaceoar.

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I can offer my SpaceOar experience from 2023. I do not recall receiving instructions such as that, and I played Pickleball multiple times with no issues. That said, I would suggest speaking with your physician and getting their opinion as they know your specific situation the best.

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I was never given those instructions, I regularly played pickleball, lifted weights, ran 5Ks, and swam laps during the time I had SpaceOAR Vue (with my proton radiation treatments during April-May 2021).
Perhaps your medical team is simply being ultra-conservative? (Which is ok since SpaceOAR only lasts for a few months.)

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I'm on a Lupron /Ereleada protocol and I'm happy to report that there seem to be few side effects..,with one exception. I look in the mirror and see that my upper torso is growing rolls of blubber that have me looking like the Michelin Tire mascot. I'm wondering about trying Ozempic but don't know if that is a good idea with the meds I'm taking. I'll ask my doc when I see her in a couple of weeks, but in the meantime, anyone have any thoughts on this subject?

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@nparadisum

I'm on a Lupron /Ereleada protocol and I'm happy to report that there seem to be few side effects..,with one exception. I look in the mirror and see that my upper torso is growing rolls of blubber that have me looking like the Michelin Tire mascot. I'm wondering about trying Ozempic but don't know if that is a good idea with the meds I'm taking. I'll ask my doc when I see her in a couple of weeks, but in the meantime, anyone have any thoughts on this subject?

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Data show that exercise works - resistance-training exercise and cardio. (Hormone therapy affects metabolism so, you have to do things that offset that effect.)

I lost 40 lbs (& 3 belt sizes) while I was on ADT due to a rigorous weightlifting and cardio program. The only cost I incurred was that I had to buy a lot of new clothes. I also made some dietary changes, but it was actually to become more heart-healthy.

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@nparadisum

I'm on a Lupron /Ereleada protocol and I'm happy to report that there seem to be few side effects..,with one exception. I look in the mirror and see that my upper torso is growing rolls of blubber that have me looking like the Michelin Tire mascot. I'm wondering about trying Ozempic but don't know if that is a good idea with the meds I'm taking. I'll ask my doc when I see her in a couple of weeks, but in the meantime, anyone have any thoughts on this subject?

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Yup, ADT will do that, unfortunately. The only answer is the old tried and true: diet and exercise.
Cut calories where you can and get your ass moving. You have to work out regularly with weights and get going aerobically.
If you are not an exercise person, please become one or that Michelin blubber will become permanent. Best,
Phil

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Well we're caught between a rock and a hard place. Never was it more important to burn calories and develop muscle mass and never was it more difficult to burn calories and develop muscle mass. I sympathize man. I was lucky enough to fall into a hospital/ymca sponsored pickleball club for cancer survivors in Palm Harbor Florida. We are all compromised in some fashion so it's fun. My son says it's like playing fetch with an old arthritic dog.

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@mccannr

Well we're caught between a rock and a hard place. Never was it more important to burn calories and develop muscle mass and never was it more difficult to burn calories and develop muscle mass. I sympathize man. I was lucky enough to fall into a hospital/ymca sponsored pickleball club for cancer survivors in Palm Harbor Florida. We are all compromised in some fashion so it's fun. My son says it's like playing fetch with an old arthritic dog.

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While on hormone therapy, it’s about maintaining lean muscle; developing muscle mass is almost impossible without testosterone.
Burning calories is also doable - walk, jog, swim…..
As my strength dropped (due to the loss of testosterone), I had to reduce the weights I was lifting so as not to injure myself (muscles and joints) during that time. (Always listen to your body.) Setting expectations as to what’s possible while on ADT is important.

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@brianjarvis

Data show that exercise works - resistance-training exercise and cardio. (Hormone therapy affects metabolism so, you have to do things that offset that effect.)

I lost 40 lbs (& 3 belt sizes) while I was on ADT due to a rigorous weightlifting and cardio program. The only cost I incurred was that I had to buy a lot of new clothes. I also made some dietary changes, but it was actually to become more heart-healthy.

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Bryan, could you offer a little more detail on your workout regimen? Thanks
Zzotte

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@zzotte

Bryan, could you offer a little more detail on your workout regimen? Thanks
Zzotte

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In the clinical trial titled “Resistance Exercise Training Increases Muscle Mass and Strength in Prostate Cancer Patients on Androgen Deprivation Therapy,” (you can Google that), the exercise regimen consisted of a progressive 3-set whole-body resistance exercise training program (60 min, twice a week).
> leg press
> leg extension
> chest press
> lateral pulldowns
> shoulder press
> horizontal row

All sets consisted of 10 repetitions with 1.5 and 3 min rest between sets and exercises, respectively.
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For myself (being a gym rat), I developed my own exercise program to offset the side-effects of Eligard.

I mostly did sets of multi-joint exercises that utilize the body’s largest muscle groups: squat, deadlift, bench press, row, overhead press, and lat pulldown. If I needed a break from that routine, I instead did sets of leg, chest, tricep, back, bicep, and shoulder exercises.

In either case, I exercised for 1-1/2 hours each day (immediately after each radiation session). I also split the routines so as not to repeat muscle groups each day. On alternating days, I would add some cardio - either jog 3-4 miles or swim 35-45 minutes.

On the 7th day I rested…..

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Thanks Bryan, I may have to either add to my home gym or join a club, I have not started any treatment yet but I have been working out in anticipation for now I do arms, shoulders and back no chest or legs I don’t have a rack or bench but I do cardio in the form of boxing and a Bulgarian bag, thanks again Bryan I’m going to look into your workout and google the other

Zzotte

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