Silent Reflux or LPR

Posted by cmdw2600 @cmdw2600, Jan 27, 2023

Has anyone been diagnosed with silent reflux or LPR? This is a condition where there is no heartburn, but acid makes its way to the throat. I have had a sore throat/throat irritation for over two years.

Would like to treat without PPI and do what I can homeopathically.

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I was finally diagnosed in 2019 after so many tests. My GP was on Medical leave so another doctor in the practice ordered all the lung tests. I had shortness of breath, extreme excess phlegm, a feeling of something stuck in my throat, small bits of food getting stuck and chest pressure. The chest x-ray, cat scan and breathing tests made me relieved but did not solve any problem. I was prescribed Prednisone and that did partially clear my throat and relieve the chest pressure but my main symptoms persisted. I tried a few home remedies which did make me feel better temporarily. Next, I made an appointment with a Cardiologist. After EKG, Echocardiogram and a nuclear stress test found nothing I did not know where to turn to.

I was thinking Allergist and decided an ENT doctor would be better first. Well he knew pretty quick what it was. Trying to make a now sceptic patient believe it could be so simple as diet related took some convincing. He put the tube through my nose to my throat and prescribed Prilosec. I scoured the Internet for LPR which I did not know existed. At that time I did not have a great diet but consumed a lot of healthy food and drank lots of water. Every morning I made smoothies for myself and my kids. Like a lot of other people Apple Cider Vinegar was a regular part of my life. If you look even now you will still see that people swear by ACV to help with their acid problems. I stopped using ACV / water mix and kept it out of my smoothies at the same time I was taking the medication. Because I read a lot online I learned my other culprits as well. My afternoon espresso and the mint candies. I didn't seem to have a problem with tomatoes as long as they weren't mixed with spicy peppers. Not every LPR sufferer will have the same triggers. My life was saved by just food changes and 8 months of Prilosec. I will say that due to this issue and also high triglycerides I completely changed my diet. I don't think you need to go to extremes but I'm now Vegan - WFPB. ACV - even the smell makes me sick and causes my throat to burn. I actually do vomit if it's in anything I eat. I don't believe I'll ever be cured but it's very rare that I have symptoms now. I really do think ACV is so bad with anyone with LPR.

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@jdecks

I was finally diagnosed in 2019 after so many tests. My GP was on Medical leave so another doctor in the practice ordered all the lung tests. I had shortness of breath, extreme excess phlegm, a feeling of something stuck in my throat, small bits of food getting stuck and chest pressure. The chest x-ray, cat scan and breathing tests made me relieved but did not solve any problem. I was prescribed Prednisone and that did partially clear my throat and relieve the chest pressure but my main symptoms persisted. I tried a few home remedies which did make me feel better temporarily. Next, I made an appointment with a Cardiologist. After EKG, Echocardiogram and a nuclear stress test found nothing I did not know where to turn to.

I was thinking Allergist and decided an ENT doctor would be better first. Well he knew pretty quick what it was. Trying to make a now sceptic patient believe it could be so simple as diet related took some convincing. He put the tube through my nose to my throat and prescribed Prilosec. I scoured the Internet for LPR which I did not know existed. At that time I did not have a great diet but consumed a lot of healthy food and drank lots of water. Every morning I made smoothies for myself and my kids. Like a lot of other people Apple Cider Vinegar was a regular part of my life. If you look even now you will still see that people swear by ACV to help with their acid problems. I stopped using ACV / water mix and kept it out of my smoothies at the same time I was taking the medication. Because I read a lot online I learned my other culprits as well. My afternoon espresso and the mint candies. I didn't seem to have a problem with tomatoes as long as they weren't mixed with spicy peppers. Not every LPR sufferer will have the same triggers. My life was saved by just food changes and 8 months of Prilosec. I will say that due to this issue and also high triglycerides I completely changed my diet. I don't think you need to go to extremes but I'm now Vegan - WFPB. ACV - even the smell makes me sick and causes my throat to burn. I actually do vomit if it's in anything I eat. I don't believe I'll ever be cured but it's very rare that I have symptoms now. I really do think ACV is so bad with anyone with LPR.

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I'm so pleased that you have found the answer to your problems. I will have to try harder with my diet, although I don't really think that it is too bad. I know a lot of people who have this problem but they are not usually as bad as I am. I've seen all the right Drs and had all the right tests including an endoscope which showed nothing. It is a weird but horrible disease. I haven't identified a lot of food items that make me bad because everything seems to make me bad. I have just started drinking low acid coffee and I hope this helps me in the morning. I find it so hard to wake up in the mornings without that one cup of coffee.

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Please try this cheap and simple solution. Google apple cider vinegar and LPR. Follow the guidelines. I got relief from LPR systems the first day I tried it. What have you got to lose!! I, like you, was trying to get rid of ppi’s which were doing nothing for me. Try it!!!

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Before I have Bravo meter implanted (to measure acid) which requires another endoscopy, I’d like to have the transnasal esophagoscopy (TNE) or the 24 hour ph-Impedance test. Unfortunately I cannot track down an ENT who performs these tests. Any advice on how to find? Keep reaching dead ends.

Thank you!

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@cmdw2600

Before I have Bravo meter implanted (to measure acid) which requires another endoscopy, I’d like to have the transnasal esophagoscopy (TNE) or the 24 hour ph-Impedance test. Unfortunately I cannot track down an ENT who performs these tests. Any advice on how to find? Keep reaching dead ends.

Thank you!

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My experience is that you have to be referred to a hospital that does this. I am insured with kaiser and they don't do it but they will give me a referral to a hospital that does this. I don't know if this helps at all. I was waiting to have this done but we travel a lot and each time they called me we were away even though I gave them the dates. It is frustrating trying to get this done plus I dread it because I don't think it is very pleasant at all.

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@cmdw2600

Before I have Bravo meter implanted (to measure acid) which requires another endoscopy, I’d like to have the transnasal esophagoscopy (TNE) or the 24 hour ph-Impedance test. Unfortunately I cannot track down an ENT who performs these tests. Any advice on how to find? Keep reaching dead ends.

Thank you!

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The bravo is simple accurate and easy. If you are approved for it Do it!! Technology makes it so much easier. Most insurance companies cover it and may require it before moving on to other solutions

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@jdecks

I was finally diagnosed in 2019 after so many tests. My GP was on Medical leave so another doctor in the practice ordered all the lung tests. I had shortness of breath, extreme excess phlegm, a feeling of something stuck in my throat, small bits of food getting stuck and chest pressure. The chest x-ray, cat scan and breathing tests made me relieved but did not solve any problem. I was prescribed Prednisone and that did partially clear my throat and relieve the chest pressure but my main symptoms persisted. I tried a few home remedies which did make me feel better temporarily. Next, I made an appointment with a Cardiologist. After EKG, Echocardiogram and a nuclear stress test found nothing I did not know where to turn to.

I was thinking Allergist and decided an ENT doctor would be better first. Well he knew pretty quick what it was. Trying to make a now sceptic patient believe it could be so simple as diet related took some convincing. He put the tube through my nose to my throat and prescribed Prilosec. I scoured the Internet for LPR which I did not know existed. At that time I did not have a great diet but consumed a lot of healthy food and drank lots of water. Every morning I made smoothies for myself and my kids. Like a lot of other people Apple Cider Vinegar was a regular part of my life. If you look even now you will still see that people swear by ACV to help with their acid problems. I stopped using ACV / water mix and kept it out of my smoothies at the same time I was taking the medication. Because I read a lot online I learned my other culprits as well. My afternoon espresso and the mint candies. I didn't seem to have a problem with tomatoes as long as they weren't mixed with spicy peppers. Not every LPR sufferer will have the same triggers. My life was saved by just food changes and 8 months of Prilosec. I will say that due to this issue and also high triglycerides I completely changed my diet. I don't think you need to go to extremes but I'm now Vegan - WFPB. ACV - even the smell makes me sick and causes my throat to burn. I actually do vomit if it's in anything I eat. I don't believe I'll ever be cured but it's very rare that I have symptoms now. I really do think ACV is so bad with anyone with LPR.

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What does your diet consist of? What do you usually eat?

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@jsfr99

What does your diet consist of? What do you usually eat?

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I think what I don't eat now made the biggest difference. I have always had a sugar addiction. Some of the most extreme at an early age involved me with a spoon and a sugar cannister. It wasn't raw sugar anymore when I hit my teens but no less harmful. Did not help that I was tall and always thin so I didn't see any reason to slow it down. Fast forward to age 59. I had not had any real health issues until then so I was lucky. The LPR felt like it came out of nowhere but looking back I probably had it for years. With the testing came a lipid panel and my triglycerides were nearly 400 - So I found this part out first.

As mentioned I read a lot and knew sugar had to go, I concentrated on no other food elimination except the sugar at first because it was the worst. After the LPR I started removing more foods. The mints and ACV is what I think made the biggest difference. Concentrating on my diet I then removed meat and dairy. I'm not a huge veggie fan but still drink smoothies so I put in there what I don't like mixed with fruits. I also loved stir fried veggies over rice with Tamari and spices. I stopped eating most processed foods. I have more time to cook from scratch now because since Covid I have been working from home. The only citrus fruit that I eat is lime because citrus is bad for LPR. It's not easy and I do not preach my diet to anyone else. I feel great eating mostly healthy. Olive oil occasionally. I don't follow any rules other than my own as far as carbs. I do eat tortillas, pancakes, pasta and white rice. I use oat flour over white flour if I'm baking. My sweet tooth is still with me but I use maple syrup and fruit now. Seriously, applesauce and raisins help. Mild salsa over spicy and soups are great. I don't think there is any one answer to controlling LPR for different people.

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@jdecks

I think what I don't eat now made the biggest difference. I have always had a sugar addiction. Some of the most extreme at an early age involved me with a spoon and a sugar cannister. It wasn't raw sugar anymore when I hit my teens but no less harmful. Did not help that I was tall and always thin so I didn't see any reason to slow it down. Fast forward to age 59. I had not had any real health issues until then so I was lucky. The LPR felt like it came out of nowhere but looking back I probably had it for years. With the testing came a lipid panel and my triglycerides were nearly 400 - So I found this part out first.

As mentioned I read a lot and knew sugar had to go, I concentrated on no other food elimination except the sugar at first because it was the worst. After the LPR I started removing more foods. The mints and ACV is what I think made the biggest difference. Concentrating on my diet I then removed meat and dairy. I'm not a huge veggie fan but still drink smoothies so I put in there what I don't like mixed with fruits. I also loved stir fried veggies over rice with Tamari and spices. I stopped eating most processed foods. I have more time to cook from scratch now because since Covid I have been working from home. The only citrus fruit that I eat is lime because citrus is bad for LPR. It's not easy and I do not preach my diet to anyone else. I feel great eating mostly healthy. Olive oil occasionally. I don't follow any rules other than my own as far as carbs. I do eat tortillas, pancakes, pasta and white rice. I use oat flour over white flour if I'm baking. My sweet tooth is still with me but I use maple syrup and fruit now. Seriously, applesauce and raisins help. Mild salsa over spicy and soups are great. I don't think there is any one answer to controlling LPR for different people.

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I was diagnosed with LPR a few months ago. Thank you very much for sharing what has helped you. What medications are you taking right now? How long did it take to work? I'm taking omeprazole and trying to follow the diet, but I don't see results yet. What symptoms did you have? Thank you very much again and I hope you can help us

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@jdecks

I was finally diagnosed in 2019 after so many tests. My GP was on Medical leave so another doctor in the practice ordered all the lung tests. I had shortness of breath, extreme excess phlegm, a feeling of something stuck in my throat, small bits of food getting stuck and chest pressure. The chest x-ray, cat scan and breathing tests made me relieved but did not solve any problem. I was prescribed Prednisone and that did partially clear my throat and relieve the chest pressure but my main symptoms persisted. I tried a few home remedies which did make me feel better temporarily. Next, I made an appointment with a Cardiologist. After EKG, Echocardiogram and a nuclear stress test found nothing I did not know where to turn to.

I was thinking Allergist and decided an ENT doctor would be better first. Well he knew pretty quick what it was. Trying to make a now sceptic patient believe it could be so simple as diet related took some convincing. He put the tube through my nose to my throat and prescribed Prilosec. I scoured the Internet for LPR which I did not know existed. At that time I did not have a great diet but consumed a lot of healthy food and drank lots of water. Every morning I made smoothies for myself and my kids. Like a lot of other people Apple Cider Vinegar was a regular part of my life. If you look even now you will still see that people swear by ACV to help with their acid problems. I stopped using ACV / water mix and kept it out of my smoothies at the same time I was taking the medication. Because I read a lot online I learned my other culprits as well. My afternoon espresso and the mint candies. I didn't seem to have a problem with tomatoes as long as they weren't mixed with spicy peppers. Not every LPR sufferer will have the same triggers. My life was saved by just food changes and 8 months of Prilosec. I will say that due to this issue and also high triglycerides I completely changed my diet. I don't think you need to go to extremes but I'm now Vegan - WFPB. ACV - even the smell makes me sick and causes my throat to burn. I actually do vomit if it's in anything I eat. I don't believe I'll ever be cured but it's very rare that I have symptoms now. I really do think ACV is so bad with anyone with LPR.

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I see now that my thyroid nodes that didn't respond to leukemia meds was probably (and still is to a lesser extent now that I'm aware of reflux) due to the reflux and not due to medicine not working.....at least I think!

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