Red meat & Prostrate Cancer

Even MD Anderson recognizes the benefits of red meat so long as you consume in moderation. Their specific recommendation is no more than 18 ozs. per week. (https://www.mdanderson.org/cancerwise/is-red-meat-bad-for-you.h00-159696756.html)

That said, please don't go by me. My idea of vegetables and fruit are french fries and ketchup. Usually served with a 2-inch T-Bone (that may or may not exceed the 18oz recommendation) 😊

I think the appropriate short answer is...moderation is the key.

Hi MPJ,

Sounds good to me 😊 yes, the answers are completely all over the scale. But you can’t go wrong with everything in moderation. Just looking for some real time events & experiences that people have done for them self’s 😊

Appreciate your reply

Ray 🇺🇸👍🏻

@mjp0512

Giving up sex is one thing, but giving up red meat? NEVER!

That having been said, I also like fish & shellfish, which constitute about 40% of my diet. That also helps me maintain a healthy weight.

Generally speaking, what you’ll often hear is that a heart-healthy diet is a prostate-healthy diet.

In my case, I decreased red meats, increased fish, salads, added more fruits, vegetables, and grains/nuts, cut out soft drinks, cut back on processed foods, and made other tweaks here and there.

Some will say don’t eat any red meats; others will say no sugar; others will say it’s not the red meats or the sugars, it’s the fatty/adipose tissue that forms that attracts prostate cancer.

Whatever you choose, do it in moderation; enjoy life.

@cole5055 You will find true believers everywhere - even on this forum. As of now, there is NO direct causation of cancer from eating red meat.
As others have said, and I agree, processed meats (cured, smoked, various parts made into ‘luncheon meat’) should probably either be avoided or eaten as little as possible.
So Aim high but if you miss, don’t worry about it too much.
Phil

Hi Phil,

I appreciate your input and I agree with you 100 💯 percent. It’s seems every Doctor has a completely different opinion. And you’re right you have to make your own best decision…….. Hoping to finally get some straight answers on my targeted Biopsy in March at Mayo in Arizona. Just seems like there should be a better way than sticking needles in cancer that could cause spread……. This is 50-60 year old technology?

Ray 😊🇺🇸✈️

I'd say if someone is young, tell them to avoid bad things like tobacco, alcohol and even red meat, maybe all meat. They harm the body gradually over decades and maybe do cause cancers. But once you get to a certain older age the damage has already been done. Now for sure, you don't want to have a horrible heart-unhealthy diet at any age, you never want to smoke and you never want to drink excessively.

Just my way of looking at things, many people might disagree. (full disclosure, I never smoke, I rarely drink and don't eat much meat, and almost never eat red meat)

As everyone is saying, a good diet is good practice. What often figures in this is inflammation. This can be caused by various dietary sources, "too much" of anything is often a clue, LOL, with too much sugar and too much omega-6 from red meat and seed oils, being prominent. It's not that these things are harmful, they are not, but the imbalance raises inflammation.

One might look for helpful things too, making sure you balance omega 6/3/9, and turmeric/curcumin as a general anti-inflammatory, and the various polyphenols from fruit and vegetables that may boost immune functions.

You can get opinions on every side and I'd say there is a real need for more science in all of these dietary issues, but we do at least have this general outline, fwiw.

@heavyphil That heart-healthy = prostate-healthy adage remains (food for thought?):
> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

My husband's surgeon who is also a researcher and is internationally known for his expertise in managing patients with cancers of the urinary system and is one of the founders of the prostate cancer care center on a major California institution told us that the ONE best thing he can do to prevent BCR is to avoid any animal products. Doctor actually did research in that area and said that he is following his patients for decades.

Bottom line, we are following his advice and are enjoying our very healthy diet 100 % :))) ! It is healthy diet in general and can only help body fight cancer and/or go through future treatments with less side effects.

We eat fish and occasionally some skinless chicken and some days we have vegetarian/vegan meals and we do not feel like we are missing anything at all. We were never red meat lovers to begin with - maybe that is why it is so easy for us to follow doctor's advice.

PS: We also removed milk products and eggs - so many tasty substitutes available around : )))