Proton Therapy: any long term side effects? Any regrets?

Posted by oskarpr @oskarpr, Jun 13, 2024

Anyone who have proton treatment for prostate cancer wanna share his experience?
Any long term side effects.
Any regrets?

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@5galloncan

I had proton therapy at UFHPTI in March/April of this year. The only issue related to hands that I experienced was that both of my hands suddenly cramped and turned into useless claws when I was driving home. I've never had my hands cramp like that before and am not sure what, if anything, proton therapy has to do with it other than I was drinking a lot more water than usual during treatment. To alleviate the cramping and restore the use of my hands, I ate some salt. This is something I've learned to do with leg cramps in the past. I start with a quarter teaspoon of salt and chase it with some water. With me, the cramps go away almost immediately. And I know to take some electrolytes as soon as possible and so carry Medi-Lyte(R) packets, each which contains two little pills consisting of small amounts of Calcium, Potassium and Magnesium. Now I also carry a bottle of Sodium Chloride (salt) 1 gram tablets for emergencies. This takes care of the muscle cramping. The only other issue I'm experiencing is I walk slower and notice both hips are fatigued on long walks. I attribute this to the proton beams shooting in through my hips on each side for 29 sessions. Bike riding is fine, so I do that more than even thinking of going on hour long walks anymore.

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@5galloncan
You mentioned bike riding. Did you have the Space/Oar done? If so asked your R/O about bike riding. I was told not to bike ride.

I went to same institution you did. My treatment was May through July in 2023. I had 30 rounds of proton radiation with the Blue Team and R/O was Dr. Mendenhall.

I got the sun burn type marks on side of hips also. But had not issues with any pain or discomfort. Did not even know the sun burn type discoloration was there until my wife mentioned it. I had minor fatique about 4 weeks in but was able to keep walking, swimming and doing water aerobics. I had more issues with frequent urination and urgency than anything else. All after treatments stopped slowly went away.

I was asked not to bike ride as can interferre with Space/Oar and also can irritate the prostate which is already under bombardment with radiation.

Electrolytes are very important to prevent cramping.

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@jc76

@5galloncan
You mentioned bike riding. Did you have the Space/Oar done? If so asked your R/O about bike riding. I was told not to bike ride.

I went to same institution you did. My treatment was May through July in 2023. I had 30 rounds of proton radiation with the Blue Team and R/O was Dr. Mendenhall.

I got the sun burn type marks on side of hips also. But had not issues with any pain or discomfort. Did not even know the sun burn type discoloration was there until my wife mentioned it. I had minor fatique about 4 weeks in but was able to keep walking, swimming and doing water aerobics. I had more issues with frequent urination and urgency than anything else. All after treatments stopped slowly went away.

I was asked not to bike ride as can interferre with Space/Oar and also can irritate the prostate which is already under bombardment with radiation.

Electrolytes are very important to prevent cramping.

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During the SpaceOar procedure, the doctor stopped for whatever reason and I ended up without it. So my 29 sessions were with the endorectal balloon. My ebike is ridden sitting up straight on a wide, cushioned seat where the pressure is not on my prostate at all. I wouldn't be riding a traditional bike where you position yourself over a medieval torture device destined to smash into your prostate. I never understood that support design for men.

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@rmbagadiya

Is it possible to have bladder irritation and redness and minor bleeding 13 years after proton radiation of prostate? I had Gleason of 4+3. No other significant side effects.

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@rmbagadiya, have you talked to your doctor about the bladder irritation and bleeding? It would be good to rule out something else going on with your bladder.

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@5galloncan

During the SpaceOar procedure, the doctor stopped for whatever reason and I ended up without it. So my 29 sessions were with the endorectal balloon. My ebike is ridden sitting up straight on a wide, cushioned seat where the pressure is not on my prostate at all. I wouldn't be riding a traditional bike where you position yourself over a medieval torture device destined to smash into your prostate. I never understood that support design for men.

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@5galloncan
I tried to get my R/O and PA at UFHPTI to let me ride my bike which has a similar seat to yours but even less bike seat contact with prostate. But they said no.

They did not want to do anything that might aggravate prostate and or the Space/Oar. Even with sitting on abbreviated seat you still have a lot of pressure going downward that you don't' have sitting on a chair, etc.

I saw many coming after me with techs getting the balloon ready. Did you have the urologist from Shands come in to do the Space/Oar? They did my Space/Oar at same time they did markers.

Having to drink all that water prior to radiation I am glad I did not have the additional time to put the balloon in. UFHPTI are professional experts on proton radiation treatments and have been doing treatments there since 2006. You and I were in good hands.

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The same doctor doing the markers attempted the Space/Oar, but for some reason having to do with getting blood pushing back into a syringe more than he wanted to see, he canceled the Space/Oar. I didn't get any more detail on this. The balloon only adds a minute or two to the procedure, so no concerns there.

From an AI inquiry about how the endorectal balloon works:

Key points about how an endorectal balloon works:

Positioning:
The balloon is inserted into the rectum and inflated, pushing the rectal wall away from the prostate, creating a barrier between them.

Reduced radiation dose:
By increasing the distance between the rectum and the radiation source, the balloon significantly reduces the amount of radiation that reaches the rectal tissue.

Improved treatment accuracy:
By stabilizing the prostate's position, the balloon helps ensure that radiation is delivered precisely to the target area, further minimizing unnecessary exposure to surrounding tissues.

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@colleenyoung

@rmbagadiya, have you talked to your doctor about the bladder irritation and bleeding? It would be good to rule out something else going on with your bladder.

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I agree with Colleen Young. You should check this out. Not to worry you, but do insist on further inquiry about the bladder in case something new is going on that you want to catch and treat as early as possible.

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