Prostrate cancer symptoms in male aged 76

Posted by monitor3 @monitor3, Jul 25 8:25pm

Relative 76 never seen GP for minimum 10 years and will not consult re prostate cancer. I would talk more to him regarding this health concern if I had more details of symptoms etc. Any help would be appreciated
Thank you

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Breast milk contains PSA (but that’s a whole different conversation).

Even PSMA (prostate specific membrane antigen) is not “prostate cancer specific.” A dozen other organs/tissues/fluids will light up with a PSMA PET scan and not be prostate cancer.

One must tip-toe around these terms.

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@brianjarvis
I did not mention PSMA Pet Scan in my post above. That was another poster.

What I was trying to get across from my personal experience with this is a PSA test does not determine if you have, or don't have, prostate cancer. It is just another test to determine need to do more testing. What my R/Os, urologist, and PCP it is much more worrisome to have a rising PSA number over time.

I hope from my post the original poster will read from my personal experience that taking the PSA test alone would remove any worry about having prostate cancer. I gave my personal experience with PSA test being below normal and I was diagnosed with prostate cancer.

In my case an excellent PCP did not like rising PSA numbers over the years. He referred me to a urologist who found my DRE normal. But again neither like the rising numbers and even though my PSA was below normal he ordered MRI/contrast, and from that Transperenial MRI/Fusion biopsies.

Again I hope through my experience with PSA tests and my experience with my R/Os, PCP, and urologist a high PSA does not confirm, nor confirm prostate cancer. It should be used just like one poster mentioned a check lite on your engine.

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I think you have the misconception of PSA test. It is not the only thing needed to determine no need to worry. What are his symptoms?

Most urologist will do a a DRE to feel the prostate for obivious feel of an abnormality. Getting a PSA test will only give you a number. It does not tell you if you have cancer, or BPH. Based on PSA test and DRE that can help but not completely determine need to have further test.

Individuals with high PSA is not a diagnosis of cancer. A low PSA does not mean you do not have cancer. I had a normal PSA and I was diagnosed with cancer.
I think important that we do not infer we are medical experts on MCC and you take that as medical guidance. We can give you our personal experiences and be an inspirations but should not be seen as giving you medical guidance.

The below was taken from WEB MD. It is the basic information on prostate cancer. You can go on web sites like WEBMD, Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, John Hopkins, etc. to get medical information on BPH and prostate cancer. Look at the basis and you will see getting a PSA test is not to be seen as a test that rules out cancer or rules it in. And that is from the medical community not me as you can read below.
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Screening: DRE and PSA
Your doctor may initially do a digital rectal exam (DRE) to feel for bumps or hard spots on the prostate. After a discussion with your doctor, a blood test can be used to measure prostate-specific antigen (PSA), a protein produced by prostate cells. An elevated level may indicate a higher chance that you have cancer, but you can have a high level and still be cancer-free. It is also possible to have a normal PSA and have prostate cancer.

PSA Test Results
A normal PSA level is considered to be under 4 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL) of blood, while a PSA above 10 suggests a high risk of cancer. But there are many exceptions:

Men can have prostate cancer with a PSA less than 4.
A prostate that is inflamed (prostatitis) or enlarged (BPH) can boost PSA levels, yet further testing may show no evidence of cancer.
Some BPH drugs can lower PSA levels, despite the presence of prostate cancer, called a false negative.
If either a PSA or DRE test are abnormal, your doctor will likely order other tests.

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Twenty years ago I went in for my annual physical (I was 63 at the time) and she did a DRE which revealed a lump on my prostate. She ordered a biopsy ( painful but short lived) which revealed that I had prostate cancer, with a Gleason score of 6. While 6 is fairly low I opted for the aggressive response of a radical prostatectomy. After the surgery I thought that I had nothing more to worry about in terms of cancer, and that assumption held for 20 years until a a blood test administered during a routine physical revealed an elevated PSA. That led me to Georgetown University Hospital where the resident oncologist prescribed cyberknife treatments. They were efficacious for a while but the cancer kept popping up until I was told that more radiation would be harmful, and I was reassigned to my present oncologist, who has me on doublet therapy. Now I'm back in a wait and see state, as we play whack-a-mole withe the cancer cells, presently in my lymph nodes. While all of this has been a bother, I'm grateful that I've reached 83 without any significant side effects, and am praying that the meds can keep the cancer from metastasizing further for a time. During this process, I read everything I can about my condition and join forums such as this one. 🫰🙏🏼🫰🙏🏼

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If the person has not had PSA tests over time then PSA VELOCITY cannot be determined. People who have an interval increase ( some say 50% ) then further action is recommended unless there is some explanation, ex, a urinary tract infection (UTI). The PSE blood test is one way, and /or a specialized MRI of the prostate may be in order. The first PSA level that is in an expected age category is preliminary.

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Twenty years ago I went in for my annual physical (I was 63 at the time) and she did a DRE which revealed a lump on my prostate. She ordered a biopsy ( painful but short lived) which revealed that I had prostate cancer, with a Gleason score of 6. While 6 is fairly low I opted for the aggressive response of a radical prostatectomy. After the surgery I thought that I had nothing more to worry about in terms of cancer, and that assumption held for 20 years until a a blood test administered during a routine physical revealed an elevated PSA. That led me to Georgetown University Hospital where the resident oncologist prescribed cyberknife treatments. They were efficacious for a while but the cancer kept popping up until I was told that more radiation would be harmful, and I was reassigned to my present oncologist, who has me on doublet therapy. Now I'm back in a wait and see state, as we play whack-a-mole withe the cancer cells, presently in my lymph nodes. While all of this has been a bother, I'm grateful that I've reached 83 without any significant side effects, and am praying that the meds can keep the cancer from metastasizing further for a time. During this process, I read everything I can about my condition and join forums such as this one. 🫰🙏🏼🫰🙏🏼

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@nparadisum
You seemed to have a very positive attitude toward having this disease. That is important in any disease.

If I read right it was 20 years ago that your prostate cancer was diagnosed. The diagnosis and treatments since then have drastically improved. I know a friend of mine who had RP in mid 90s mentioned there was not a lot of choices in doing radiation like there is today.

Even in the short time since I was diagnosed so many more diagnostic and treatments have emerged. I hope that someday this disease will be easily cured, and I did say cured. But even better medical advancements to keep from ever getting prostate cancer.

Good luck and like your said keep your from metastasizing any further.

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@nparadisum
You seemed to have a very positive attitude toward having this disease. That is important in any disease.

If I read right it was 20 years ago that your prostate cancer was diagnosed. The diagnosis and treatments since then have drastically improved. I know a friend of mine who had RP in mid 90s mentioned there was not a lot of choices in doing radiation like there is today.

Even in the short time since I was diagnosed so many more diagnostic and treatments have emerged. I hope that someday this disease will be easily cured, and I did say cured. But even better medical advancements to keep from ever getting prostate cancer.

Good luck and like your said keep your from metastasizing any further.

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Thanks very much!
God bless!

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