Post Prostatectomy Two Week Progress

Posted by quaddick @quaddick, Feb 5 11:42am

PART 1

First of all, I'd like to convey my sincere and heartfelt thanks to all of you on this forum for helping me come to my treatment decision. Your knowledge, advice, and experience that you’ve shared with me either directly, or just by my reading through all your posts have been a great resource to me. And thanks to the Mayo clinic and moderator of this forum for making its existence possible. And also a special thanks to my wife for all her help, without which this recovery would be much more difficult.

After years of steadily rising PSA, a couple of biopsies that found nothing, and then leveling out at a PSA around 12, my urologist said it was time for a new MRI. The MRI done in July 2025 found a larger PI-RADS 5 tumor, and a smaller PI-RADS 3 tumor, followed by a biopsy in August, which found that the larger tumor was a 3 + 4 = 7 with perineural invasion, and the smaller one was a 3 + 3 = 6.

I started researching prostate cancer, and its treatments in July, using reputable sources such as Mayo Clinic, John Hopkins, Harvard, NCI, the health services of Canada, the UK, Australia, and the Prostate Cancer Researchers Institute which has lots of excellent videos. I came to the conclusion that SBRT would be the treatment for me. I also took the advice of a lot of these sites and got second opinions. I got a second opinion on my biopsy pathology from a center of excellence, University of Wisconsin Madison Carbone Cancer Center, and also talked to one of their docs for a second opinion. They pretty much jived with what I was getting in my own local area. I got the decipher test on which I scored high. I also had a PSMA PET scan performed on me, and it showed no spread outside the prostate capsule. Then I heard about the Prostox test that can predict future serious genitourinary complications from radiation treatment. There's one for SBRT and one for CFRT. Unfortunately, I scored high risk on both, so I had to rethink my treatment, and I decided I'd go with prostatectomy. A 3 + 4 = 7 tumor contained within the prostate would normally mean I could even qualify for active surveillance. But because of my high decipher score and the fact that I had perineural invasion, I decided I better just get it out before it did spread. Just to note, the tests like Decipher, PSMA PET, and Prostox, I had to ask for. Maybe my doctors would have mentioned them to me, but I guess because of my research, I was on top of it, and got to it before they did. So, as many other people have said in this forum, you got to be your own advocate.

I scheduled my prostatectomy, and I had it two weeks ago today. It was a RALP, using a da Vinci machine. The surgeon said it went well with no complications except one which showed up on the post prostatectomy biopsy. The biopsy report said there was one positive margin. So that worried me at first, but my surgeon said that when he was pulling the prostate out, the region where the margin is stuck to the prostate capsule tore, so hopefully that is just, you know, a little hiccup in the process and not a true cancer margin. But we'll see on my future PSA tests if the PSA declines to undetectable. He was able to save most of my nerves, so ED hopefully won't be a long-term problem, and he said he was able to do something with the urinary sphincter that should make continence come back faster.

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Profile picture for lyricw @lyricw

I am 69 & have RARP scheduled 3/13. I have a 6 & 3+4=7 lesion. They have me scheduled as going home (ambulatory after surgery. I thought I would stay over night but I would rather be home.
I appreciate the post op description.

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@lyricw We are having surgery the same day my friend, but they said i will be spending the night in the hospital. Im 57, and not looking forward to this procedure, but at least this forum has helped me ease my mind some. Ive started my kegel exercises, so hoping minimum leakage afterwards. Good luck my friend!!!!!!!!!!

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@lyricw We are having surgery the same day my friend, but they said i will be spending the night in the hospital. Im 57, and not looking forward to this procedure, but at least this forum has helped me ease my mind some. Ive started my kegel exercises, so hoping minimum leakage afterwards. Good luck my friend!!!!!!!!!!

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@mpersonne Thank you & best wishes to you.
I was surprised when PSA elevated & no symptoms then MRI & biopsy revealed a 6 & 3/4-7 lesion. I did extensive research on treatment, prognosis & side effects. I spoke with an oncologist who had RARP 14 years ago at age 54 for GG2 & is BCR free.
It seems most regain enough continence with kegels & newer techniques like hood technique. ED is problem but many can overcome with various methods if desired.
I considered Proton, but was told SBRT instead. I decided on RARP for many reasons & think we will both do well. I am looking forward to procedure because I want cancer gone before any EPE or chance for local mets. I would rather go home after surgery & at age 69 will have biggest problem of slowing down.

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Profile picture for lyricw @lyricw

@mpersonne Thank you & best wishes to you.
I was surprised when PSA elevated & no symptoms then MRI & biopsy revealed a 6 & 3/4-7 lesion. I did extensive research on treatment, prognosis & side effects. I spoke with an oncologist who had RARP 14 years ago at age 54 for GG2 & is BCR free.
It seems most regain enough continence with kegels & newer techniques like hood technique. ED is problem but many can overcome with various methods if desired.
I considered Proton, but was told SBRT instead. I decided on RARP for many reasons & think we will both do well. I am looking forward to procedure because I want cancer gone before any EPE or chance for local mets. I would rather go home after surgery & at age 69 will have biggest problem of slowing down.

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@lyricw You have almost identical case as mine when coming to biopsy and mri. Before I knew if I had it or not, i was already mind-set on radiation, but when i found out if it comes back years later, then surgery is not an option. That alone made up my decision. Ive read, viewed mens journeys that had the surgery, that i think im almost an expert on the prostate now..lol.. But im not..lol... This forum has also been a huge help!!!!!!!!!

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Profile picture for lyricw @lyricw

@mpersonne Thank you & best wishes to you.
I was surprised when PSA elevated & no symptoms then MRI & biopsy revealed a 6 & 3/4-7 lesion. I did extensive research on treatment, prognosis & side effects. I spoke with an oncologist who had RARP 14 years ago at age 54 for GG2 & is BCR free.
It seems most regain enough continence with kegels & newer techniques like hood technique. ED is problem but many can overcome with various methods if desired.
I considered Proton, but was told SBRT instead. I decided on RARP for many reasons & think we will both do well. I am looking forward to procedure because I want cancer gone before any EPE or chance for local mets. I would rather go home after surgery & at age 69 will have biggest problem of slowing down.

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@lyricw I haven't heard of the hood technique. What is that? Thanks'!

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@lyricw I haven't heard of the hood technique. What is that? Thanks'!

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@fritzo space of Retzius preservation enhances return of continence. Hood technique is anterior procedure approach saving tissue under pubic bone. Tewari has You Tube teaching video showing RARP with hood technique.
https://reports.mountsinai.org/article/hood-technique-enables-early-return-to-continence-following-rarp
Hood technique to enhance continence after RARP

The hood technique is a modification of the robotic-assisted radical prostatectomy (RARP) that aims to enhance continence recovery after the procedure. This technique preserves the anterior structures during apical dissection, facilitating early postoperative recovery of urinary continence. It has been shown to improve continence recovery rates and reduce postoperative urinary incontinence compared to standard RARP techniques. The hood technique is particularly beneficial for patients with anterior tumor locations, as it allows for the preservation of the membranous urethra, external sphincter, and supportive structures, leading to a better return of continence.
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https://www.bing.com/fd/ls/GLinkPing.aspx

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Profile picture for lyricw @lyricw

@fritzo space of Retzius preservation enhances return of continence. Hood technique is anterior procedure approach saving tissue under pubic bone. Tewari has You Tube teaching video showing RARP with hood technique.
https://reports.mountsinai.org/article/hood-technique-enables-early-return-to-continence-following-rarp
Hood technique to enhance continence after RARP

The hood technique is a modification of the robotic-assisted radical prostatectomy (RARP) that aims to enhance continence recovery after the procedure. This technique preserves the anterior structures during apical dissection, facilitating early postoperative recovery of urinary continence. It has been shown to improve continence recovery rates and reduce postoperative urinary incontinence compared to standard RARP techniques. The hood technique is particularly beneficial for patients with anterior tumor locations, as it allows for the preservation of the membranous urethra, external sphincter, and supportive structures, leading to a better return of continence.
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https://www.bing.com/fd/ls/GLinkPing.aspx

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@lyricw Looks promising and hopeful for wider use down the road. Don't know if my center does this or not. Glad they are figuring out better ways....just don't know if I'll get that benefit. Need the surgery now...and can't travel to Mt. Sinai. Thanks for the info though!

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