Pain pump, I have one, how about one for you?

Posted by Stephen @wsh66, Nov 9, 2018

I have had an implanted pain pump in my abdomen for about 18 months. It is a miracle. I get a total of 4.764 mgs. of Dilaudid, If I administer all of the 10 extra micro does I can have in 24 hours. If I don't use those extra doses I get 2.74 mgs. over 24 hours. The effect is 300 times more effective than if I took the same dose orally. I go to my doctors office every 3 months to have the pump refilled. I'm there for about 15 minutes. The actual process of refilling the pump takes no more than 5 minutes and is painless. No prescriptions to worry about, no one wondering if I'm misusing or selling my pain meds, no one making me feel like a drug addict or a criminal. In our current climate this is even more important than it was two years ago. Many Doctors want nothing to do with pain patients or writing scripts for pain meds. I know many of you have been there. This method is especially good for back issues as the drug is delivered via a catheter which runs up my spin. Yes, I still have pain but it's pain I can live with. If your Doctor doesn't know about this or doesn't want to do it contact a pain clinic. The Doctor who put mine in is a Neurosurgeon. If you have any questions please respond.

@wsh66

Shortly after I made this post another member posted a list of narcotics and phone numbers where you could order these drugs with no prescription. I believe the post has been removed however for those who don't know, that information may have been real but you must know this. You cannot get real authentic drugs on the internet or anywhere else with no prescription. These types of sellers are the sources of most of the most if not all of the overdose deaths. You may be able to buy pills that have narcotics in them but they are always counterfeit and are usually made from fentanyl. It is perfect for smugglers as tiny amounts are very powerful and it's easier to smuggle little packages than it is large ones. The problem is that titrating drugs, (measuring out the right quantities to make a pill), is really hard. The smaller amount needed to make a pill active, the harder it is to get it right.

I don't know what percentage of people who buy this way are doing so to get high but I'm positive many of the purchasers are legitimate pain patients who cannot get access to the medicine they need. Having lived with life destroying levels of pain and then getting help in the form of narcotics and having their lives restored, find it inconceivable to go back to life before they got help, when they get cut off. They turn to these sources and things may be fine but one bad pill kills them. Think about it. You've gotten the meds you need. It was hard and expensive to get them. You are going to make them last, your not going to take a whole handful at once. Overdosing isn't that easy. If you take 100mg per day, 125mg is not going to kill you. There is the level you need to treat pain and then a higher lever to become intoxicated, even more to knock you out but still have you wake up, still more to get you to the emergency room but it takes a lot more to kill you so quickly you can't ask for help.

There has never been anything like fentanyl where such a tiny amount kills. A number of countries manufacture all sorts of illegal drugs like meth, oxycodone, morphine and fentanyl The Ukraine and Mexico have a history with meth and it's precursors. There was one case where 4 55 gal drums of meths main ingredient were discovered bound for L.A. vis Mexico. Not surprisingly the level of meth use in the USA goes up and down in relationship to how much pressure the DEA buts on countries like the Ukraine. I learned this from a "Frontline" documentary a few years ago.

No matter how bad things get you should never ever use a service like this. People using drugs generally know what they are doing and don't want overdose. They don't overdose because one day they decide to take 4 times what they took yesterday, they overdose because that bag of heroin they just shot had 4 times the amount of heroin they were expecting or what the dealer had intended. Killing your customers is bad for business but it happens too frequently. It has always happened especially with heroin. It's happening much more frequently because of fentanyl. Fentanyl is 80 to 100 times stronger than morphine which is what heroin is made from. This is why it is so dangerous. The drug dealers and counterfeit manufacturers do not have the labs that legitimate drug manufacturers possess and they don't give a damn if they kill you. You can't sue some fool in Mexico or China.

Prince was a good example. He overdosed on what he probably believed was Oxycontin. He had a long reputation as a non drug user. He was very religious and was also a victim of extreme pain. I would bet he used a street dealer or a source like the ones that appeared here a few days ago. I know how bad this has gotten for many of you but this is not the solution. To the person who made the post, you are playing russian roulette, if you play long enough you will die. Love and Blessings. Get a pump!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Thank you for taking the time to post this. I was very surprised to see the post, several times, with the obviously illegal drugs. I am Canadian and the opioid deaths in Vancouver has reached epidemic numbers.

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miro@miro : In Canada, are doctors not allowed to prescribe opiates and heavy pain killers for people who need them for medical conditions? Here, they aren't illegal if a doctor prescribes them. They are illegal if a person buys them from someone who isn't a doctor.
Peggy

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@wsh66

Shortly after I made this post another member posted a list of narcotics and phone numbers where you could order these drugs with no prescription. I believe the post has been removed however for those who don't know, that information may have been real but you must know this. You cannot get real authentic drugs on the internet or anywhere else with no prescription. These types of sellers are the sources of most of the most if not all of the overdose deaths. You may be able to buy pills that have narcotics in them but they are always counterfeit and are usually made from fentanyl. It is perfect for smugglers as tiny amounts are very powerful and it's easier to smuggle little packages than it is large ones. The problem is that titrating drugs, (measuring out the right quantities to make a pill), is really hard. The smaller amount needed to make a pill active, the harder it is to get it right.

I don't know what percentage of people who buy this way are doing so to get high but I'm positive many of the purchasers are legitimate pain patients who cannot get access to the medicine they need. Having lived with life destroying levels of pain and then getting help in the form of narcotics and having their lives restored, find it inconceivable to go back to life before they got help, when they get cut off. They turn to these sources and things may be fine but one bad pill kills them. Think about it. You've gotten the meds you need. It was hard and expensive to get them. You are going to make them last, your not going to take a whole handful at once. Overdosing isn't that easy. If you take 100mg per day, 125mg is not going to kill you. There is the level you need to treat pain and then a higher lever to become intoxicated, even more to knock you out but still have you wake up, still more to get you to the emergency room but it takes a lot more to kill you so quickly you can't ask for help.

There has never been anything like fentanyl where such a tiny amount kills. A number of countries manufacture all sorts of illegal drugs like meth, oxycodone, morphine and fentanyl The Ukraine and Mexico have a history with meth and it's precursors. There was one case where 4 55 gal drums of meths main ingredient were discovered bound for L.A. vis Mexico. Not surprisingly the level of meth use in the USA goes up and down in relationship to how much pressure the DEA buts on countries like the Ukraine. I learned this from a "Frontline" documentary a few years ago.

No matter how bad things get you should never ever use a service like this. People using drugs generally know what they are doing and don't want overdose. They don't overdose because one day they decide to take 4 times what they took yesterday, they overdose because that bag of heroin they just shot had 4 times the amount of heroin they were expecting or what the dealer had intended. Killing your customers is bad for business but it happens too frequently. It has always happened especially with heroin. It's happening much more frequently because of fentanyl. Fentanyl is 80 to 100 times stronger than morphine which is what heroin is made from. This is why it is so dangerous. The drug dealers and counterfeit manufacturers do not have the labs that legitimate drug manufacturers possess and they don't give a damn if they kill you. You can't sue some fool in Mexico or China.

Prince was a good example. He overdosed on what he probably believed was Oxycontin. He had a long reputation as a non drug user. He was very religious and was also a victim of extreme pain. I would bet he used a street dealer or a source like the ones that appeared here a few days ago. I know how bad this has gotten for many of you but this is not the solution. To the person who made the post, you are playing russian roulette, if you play long enough you will die. Love and Blessings. Get a pump!!!!!!!!!!!!

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@wsh66 Stephen, Thanks for sharing such an informative post about opiods. Our pain docs need to read it. Lori Renee

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@miro Maybe the opiod deaths are so high because people with legitimate pain cannot get them and they go on the black market. Black mrket sells the killers. I get percocet from pain doctor for years. I use as directed and have not had any problems. I am well managed and he knows all medications I take.

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That is a exactly what I read explaining, but because of the presence of fentanyl, the black market is too dangerous. It will kill you. Please read it again. It is an important cautionary tale.

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