Neuropathy Feet and legs

Posted by danwealthy @danwealthy, Oct 6, 2022

Hi my feet and legs are like on pin and needles. I have lower back issues L4-L5 which shots in the low back have been unsuccessful. One of my doctors advised me to get some cream or something that has Capsaicin in it to help bloc the nerve signal. The one I choose was PainBloc 24 unfortunately they have stopped production. Im looking for anything I can replace it with any suggestions? I want a roll on or spray because I cant reach my back with a frozen shoulder!

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@nukhan

In reply to @oliviaflickamay: As Amlodipine is a blood pressure medication and must be taken daily what alternative are you using now if I may ask. Also please clarify how soon did you notice a difference after stopping Amlodipine?

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I used a pill cutter and over many many months of tiny removals ended at zero useage. I take nothing now at 87 years of age except albuterol and Flovent for moderate asthma. I’m satisfied with my bp in the 120-128 over 70’s daily averages. Apparently I am an outlier of Cochran’s multivariate analyses of no connection between peripheral neuropathy and Amlodipine.

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@oliviaflickamay

I used a pill cutter and over many many months of tiny removals ended at zero useage. I take nothing now at 87 years of age except albuterol and Flovent for moderate asthma. I’m satisfied with my bp in the 120-128 over 70’s daily averages. Apparently I am an outlier of Cochran’s multivariate analyses of no connection between peripheral neuropathy and Amlodipine.

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In reply to @oliviaflickamay thank you so much for the clarification and sharing your experience

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@jenatsky

You need to change your life style to suit your needs. I’m retired so my main job is staying pain free or as much as I’m able to and nothing else. If I’m going to do something I know will cause me pain afterwards I prepaid for it and treat it appropriately. Sounds like you’re still trying to live your old life style, which has since changed. Sorry but you have to play with the deck you’ve been handed.

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People say "You need to change your lifestyle", but nobody says what to change or how to change it. And different people mean different things when they say "lifestyle." Some mean physical activity, some mean diet, and some mean habits like smoking, drinking, drugs, etc. So "change your lifestyle", while it may be good advice, is totally ambiguous.

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@rebsue

I am 18 months post a vertebral artery dissection resulting in a stroke. I've recovered extremely well from the stroke, but have developed burning pain in my legs and bottoms of my feet bilaterally, (all other symptoms are with my affected side only). I've been to an expert neurologist at UCHealth in Denver and just met with one at UCSF neuro rehab. (I live in rural Montana, where there is no longer a neurologist.)

Both experts could not explain my symptoms as a result of the stroke, and presentation is not aligned with a diagnosis of neuropathy. Denver doctor wanted to rule out other neural causes and I've had extensive blood work which rules out toxins, MM, leukemia, etc. I've been up and down on gabapentin and it's been recommended to take cymbalta or similar medication.

The neurologist at UCSF has scheduled me to return for an EMG and told me it would definitively rule out neuropathy. (He also wants a spinal MRI done to rule out tumor.) My local physiatrist told me that small fiber neuropathy can not be ruled out by an EMG. (As I've read through the Mayo posts here, she appears to be correct.)

Everything I've read indicates that even if a diagnosis of SFN is made (guessing the punch biopsy is next), there is no treatment other than the aforementioned recommendation of gabapentin or Lyrica, and a low-dose antidepressant.

I am seriously considering cancelling the EMG and MRI in December. I know it is the physician's job to leave no stone unturned in zeroing in on a diagnosis, but if the results do not point to a different treatment, I am reluctant to go down this rabbit hole. I am 75 years old, and want to focus on living the best life I can, enjoying everything possible. I have improved so much since my stroke (I work very hard at it!) and can accept that my damaged brain is sending out strange signals, and that maybe the power of neuroplasticity will continue to re-wire and my neuropathy symptoms will lessen over time.

I would love it if any of you would share your thoughts, as I think about this decision of testing. Thanks! Rebecca

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Neuropathic pain is different for everyone, so giving advice would be a bad idea. I too, want to focus on living the best life I can. I'm ten years older than you are, and my quality of life is pretty high, even with the pain. For me, the best therapy is walking, but that's not for everyone. I keep socially active, and that takes my mind off the pain to some degree. My neurologist wanted to put me on morphine, but I can't tolerate it, so I'm not on any medication except Prednisone for when I have severe inflammation. I do hope you find relief. You sound like a positive person, and that's a plus. Hang in there, and do what works for you.

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@feetie

People say "You need to change your lifestyle", but nobody says what to change or how to change it. And different people mean different things when they say "lifestyle." Some mean physical activity, some mean diet, and some mean habits like smoking, drinking, drugs, etc. So "change your lifestyle", while it may be good advice, is totally ambiguous.

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I am so sorry you feel this way. It is different for each of us and I think you’ll have difficulty finding someone else’s “life style” that fits you. What I meant was creating your “life style” that suits your physical and emotional needs due to your illness. As an example I do all our meal planning and prep and any upper body work like countertop preparation causes me grief. Do I divide it up during my day so not everything is prepared at one time. This way I get to lay down and rest my back between sessions. I know I need to walk 2 miles daily and I make that a priority for my day. It’s all about me now after a career in nursing taking care of others. This my idea of My Life Style for my pain control.

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@jenatsky

I am so sorry you feel this way. It is different for each of us and I think you’ll have difficulty finding someone else’s “life style” that fits you. What I meant was creating your “life style” that suits your physical and emotional needs due to your illness. As an example I do all our meal planning and prep and any upper body work like countertop preparation causes me grief. Do I divide it up during my day so not everything is prepared at one time. This way I get to lay down and rest my back between sessions. I know I need to walk 2 miles daily and I make that a priority for my day. It’s all about me now after a career in nursing taking care of others. This my idea of My Life Style for my pain control.

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@jenatsky thanks for the very helpful post. It was recommended to me to use the “spoon” theory to keep my pain under control which is proving challenging for me. How did you come to the 2 mile goal? Does it deplete all your reserves for the day or is that the maximum you can do and still function at a tolerable pain level? I am trying to adjust my attitude to one of acceptance of my limitations with chronic pain which is causing me to go through a grieving process but intellectually I know this is what I have to do. Thanks for your honest post and sharing any additional experiences you have!

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@amyj2022

Does anyone else have this problem, I have neuropathy in my feet and legs, but it is worse in my right foot and leg. Its almost like I have two bodies and they dont know each other. I use Theroworx cream, which helps some, it seems anything with higher grade menthol works better. The highest cream menthol has 16% but I dont know if you can find higher.

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Have you tried lidocaine 4 % gel? It helps me a lot. John

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@jenatsky

I am so sorry you feel this way. It is different for each of us and I think you’ll have difficulty finding someone else’s “life style” that fits you. What I meant was creating your “life style” that suits your physical and emotional needs due to your illness. As an example I do all our meal planning and prep and any upper body work like countertop preparation causes me grief. Do I divide it up during my day so not everything is prepared at one time. This way I get to lay down and rest my back between sessions. I know I need to walk 2 miles daily and I make that a priority for my day. It’s all about me now after a career in nursing taking care of others. This my idea of My Life Style for my pain control.

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Thank you for your response. I've been dealing with neuropathy for 20+ years, and of course I've had to make adjustments. Mine isn't too bad during the day as long as I'm vertical. I can only sleep for an hour or two at a time, so I try to nap in the recliner during the day. I don't waste my time wishing things were different. I'm a pragmatist and accept things as they are. At age 85, I'm still able to drive, which is a good thing because hubby is in a nursing home that's a two and a half hour drive from here.
Thanks again for your clarification.

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@feetie

Thank you for your response. I've been dealing with neuropathy for 20+ years, and of course I've had to make adjustments. Mine isn't too bad during the day as long as I'm vertical. I can only sleep for an hour or two at a time, so I try to nap in the recliner during the day. I don't waste my time wishing things were different. I'm a pragmatist and accept things as they are. At age 85, I'm still able to drive, which is a good thing because hubby is in a nursing home that's a two and a half hour drive from here.
Thanks again for your clarification.

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Have you considered cannabis? At your age you have nothing to lose and potentially gain some relief. I injured my self in 1988 and my current status is a result of ignoring my back care once I was able to return to work. You live and learn. Sorry your spouse is in a nursing home.

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I want to mention physical therapy here. I have SFN. Most of my pain is in my hips, which radiates down my legs and affects my knees. Many, many trial and error creams, injections, patches etc. What I have concluded recently is that I need continuous physical therapy. This too has been trial and error. But a good physical therapist will find the origin of the pain (my piriformis muscle in my glutes, for example) and work from there. I don’t want to be scolded for not doing my exercises enough, or failing to use my ultrasound/TENS unit at home. A good PT recognizes that nothing I did caused this pain, and nothing I can do will fix it. I just wanted to insert this reminder that sometimes we need someone else to look at our pain from a different perspective. They can find trigger spots that I didn’t know existed. Gentle manipulation that we mutually agree on.
So, my point is, build a care team.

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