Want to talk about Multiple Myeloma: Anyone else?

Posted by Frazer 1 @frazer1, Apr 11, 2012

Asking anyone who is going thru this experience to share any pro's or con's of this disease. As of now I'm in MGUS, will find our next week if it has progress to Smoldering Myeloma.

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When should I get a second opinion and is that all there is too do wait and see and get blood work done every 3 to 4 months
How do you get this never heard of this kind of cancer until me of course the most rare kind I get I have watched so many people die with several other types of cancer
Is this mgus hereditary have I always had it inside me if it wasn't for .y asthma Dr I wouldn't know about it

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@allu MGUS is not that uncommon. It is a "precancer" if you want to look at it that way. The standard protocol is to watch and wait, that is, monitor with blood tests every 3 or 6 months as the doctor may advise. There are specific values your doctor will be watching for. Most people go for many years with no further complications.

Following a good healthy diet, get exercise, minimize your stress, all work together to help you feel your best, no matter your health situation. And it works like this for MGUS, also! At the end of this post is the link the Mayo Clinic has for information about MGUS. I hope this answers your concerns, but again, I will help you as much as possible.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mgus/symptoms-causes/syc-20352362
Ginger

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Profile picture for tml @tml

Yes I did. All going well so far on second round so far. Guess all depends on next set if numbers. Hope good first ones aren’t just a fluke!!! I hope I can achieve remission although worry it will be longer than last time. Still getting Velcade, dexamethasone and Zometa so hopeful!

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No, not really. You are keeping me sane!!! I am so thrilled to be on Revlimid and it does seem to be working well. I need to ask my doctor just what numbers say remission. Not sure from the last time as not what I would have thought but guess it was based more on the bone marrow biopsy. the sun is shining and Easter almost here so all is good!!!

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@allu First, welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. It certainly can be overwhelming to receive a diagnosis like multiple myeloma and have many questions! What specifically has your doctor told you? Is is a precursor to mm like MGUS or smoldering multiple myeloma? Do they plan to "watch and wait", which indicates to me that you may have MGUS. I know there must be som many questions in your head right now that it is hard to relax, hard to get rest. Take a few deep breaths, and we will get through this.

Having other chronic illnesses can add in to the stress you are feeling. Take some time and write down what you feel each day, how you are coping with everything. Being able to look at symptoms and feelings may help you a lot to relax.

I put in the link about insurance at the end of this. The Mayo campuses are busy places. There may or may not be available appointments for you. I think a lot depends on what your doctor says, as far as if you want to think about getting an appointment. Here is a link to use. http://mayocl.in/1mtmR63
Insurance: https://www.mayoclinic.org/patient-visitor-guide/billing-insurance
Any further questions for me?
Ginger

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When should I get a second opinion and is that all there is too do wait and see and get blood work done every 3 to 4 months
How do you get this never heard of this kind of cancer until me of course the most rare kind I get I have watched so many people die with several other types of cancer
Is this mgus hereditary have I always had it inside me if it wasn't for .y asthma Dr I wouldn't know about it

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Profile picture for tml @tml

Yes I did. All going well so far on second round so far. Guess all depends on next set if numbers. Hope good first ones aren’t just a fluke!!! I hope I can achieve remission although worry it will be longer than last time. Still getting Velcade, dexamethasone and Zometa so hopeful!

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Remember about that pesky worrying… Just go with this and keep on being positive that these first good numbers are going to keep heading in the right direction and you’ll achieve remission. Who knows, it won’t take as long, and even if it does, you have a plan for when you get there! ☺️ Annoying, aren’t I?

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Good morning @tml Thought I’d pop in to see how you’re doing today. Did your meds get to you on time for the next round?

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Yes I did. All going well so far on second round so far. Guess all depends on next set if numbers. Hope good first ones aren’t just a fluke!!! I hope I can achieve remission although worry it will be longer than last time. Still getting Velcade, dexamethasone and Zometa so hopeful!

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The pharmacy said would call when received the prescription. Guess it is in process but I will not be happy until I know it is shipped. Tomorrow is my dictor appointment so will talk with her about scheduling as would be good not to be down to the wire. It is already Wednesday and need by Friday so still a bit stressful for me. since the numbers have come down with only one month, I am hoping that will be true for this second round! Revlimid makes me so tired but worth it. I just wish I did not have the bone issues as 24/7 I feel the effects of the lesions. Not terribly painful but z sort achingly uncomfortable which is adding to my stress. Maybe with some better weather. Will see if my doctor can schedule as you do so that there is more time for processing the labs. Not sure why some are sent to Mayo but that is what they do!

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Good morning @tml Thought I’d pop in to see how you’re doing today. Did your meds get to you on time for the next round?

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Dr has said that mgus and smoldering I just really need some other people I can talk to since I don't really have anyone and people who know about my
Thank you so much for answering me

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Profile picture for ally @allu

Hi I just found out back end of last summer I have no support still just trying to find out as much as I can about it my asthma Dr found it he sent me to other Dr he confirmed it
Ihe has done blood work every 3 months or so have had people praying for me
Dr has said so doesn't seem to be affecting me had none scan and none density also
My family could care less always been like that with me
I'm just wondering if I should get a appointment at Mayo clinic to see what they can do and tell
My Dr said nothing I should be doing or not doing I asked him no to both sorry I ramble just fill like I have to king time bomb inside me could go off anytime I have several other chronic illnesses I feel like how am I going to know I'm already fatigued from those illnesses does insurance
cover mayo clinic
Thank you so much hope you are doing well

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@allu First, welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. It certainly can be overwhelming to receive a diagnosis like multiple myeloma and have many questions! What specifically has your doctor told you? Is is a precursor to mm like MGUS or smoldering multiple myeloma? Do they plan to "watch and wait", which indicates to me that you may have MGUS. I know there must be som many questions in your head right now that it is hard to relax, hard to get rest. Take a few deep breaths, and we will get through this.

Having other chronic illnesses can add in to the stress you are feeling. Take some time and write down what you feel each day, how you are coping with everything. Being able to look at symptoms and feelings may help you a lot to relax.

I put in the link about insurance at the end of this. The Mayo campuses are busy places. There may or may not be available appointments for you. I think a lot depends on what your doctor says, as far as if you want to think about getting an appointment. Here is a link to use. http://mayocl.in/1mtmR63
Insurance: https://www.mayoclinic.org/patient-visitor-guide/billing-insurance
Any further questions for me?
Ginger

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Profile picture for khnielsen @khnielsen

Dear Frazer 1 (and any other MM patients, family members, and caregivers),

I am a 58 year old woman who was diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma on June 15th, 2000, only three weeks after graduating with my Master's degree in Counseling (at age 46). I was in the later stages of the disease: I believe Stage B4 would be the correct term? My skull, spine, ribs, upper arms, pelvis, and femurs had tumors. I seriously don't know how I managed to work 20 hours a week and go full-time to graduate school and STILL graduate with a perfect 4.0 (simply bragging here, folks!)

The main point of my reply is the date of my diagnosis....JUNE 15th, 2000... over TWELVE YEARS AGO. And, after having having a double "mini" transplant (my own stem cells and my sister's stem cells) at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, I am STILL IN REMISSION. More good news: last June I went to a reunion weekend at "The Hutch" as we Hutch patients call it, and I met a woman who had had a FULL stem cell donor transplant and SHE was still in remission after FIFTEEN years.

When I was diagnosed in 2000, the blankety-blank hematologist/oncologist (now HE is another other story) informed me I had only eighteen months to two years to live. I wasn't willing to accept that so I started making phone calls to the nearest big medical centers (not being close to the Mayo Clinic). One call led to another and I found out that I had a lot more options than I thought. M.M. wasn't the "terminal" cancer I had been told it was. Yes, there is no specific "cure." But at least I had a chance.

What to expect...it depends...it depends on the specific treatment, on your individual body, and your attitude...and (I can't believe I'm typing this) prayer. Research has shown that patients who were prayed for had statistically significant improvement over patients who weren't prayed for...and these patients were not aware they were receiving organized prayer.

NUMBER ONE: YOU MUST ABSOLUTELY GET ANOTHER OPINION and ADVOCATE FOR YOURSELF. iF you are too ill and/or overwhelmed to do so, assign tasks to your family and friends...doing something for you will aid in their feeling helpless and out-of-control. For example, my brother took care of all the research for me, since "chemo brain" reduced my computer skills to a big fat zero.

NUMBER 2: You need to talk to your oncologist or G.P. about being on blood thinners. It is part of the recommended treatment but one that my blankety blank oncologist didn't bother with and it almost killed me. M.M. patients throw clots. Clots cause pulmonary embolisms. P.E., can kill a person. Watch out for the blood thinner cumadin (warfarin)...I had real problems with it working not enough and then way too much (another near death experience). The "Hutch" put me on daily Lovenox shots, which worked much better with my M.M. body.

NUMBER 3: HYDRATION!!! HYDRATION!!! HYDRATION!!! The Hutch recommended 3 litres of fluids a day (that includes coffee, tea, watermelon, whatever). I couldn't manage to do anywhere near that amount it orally, so for almost two years (due to complications) I had IV. fluids using my central line. I went through 4 months of V.A.D. chemotherapy plus the transplant chemo regimens. Thanks to the fluids, my kidneys are normal! Even though I still need to take meds for other cancer related side-effects (like Addison's Disease) my kidneys are handling all of them! NOTE: My caregiver was a hospital respiratory therapist, very experienced, and she went to war for my fluids. I'll never be able to thank her enough.

#4 Diet: Yes, I tried the super healthy cancer diets and vitamins and naturopathic supplements. They simple made me throw up. And the nutritionist at the Hutch did educate me on good nutrition, but I was just one of those patients who threw up at the blink of an eye. I got very good at it, and could even knit and barf at the same time! Hey, you HAVE to develop a good sense of humor if you don't already have one. The nutritionist finally said, "Eat anything, whatever you can keep down, and don't stress about it."

#5 Exercise: IF YOU DON'T USE IT, YOU'LL USE IT. Even one or two days down can cause muscle wasting (and blood clots). I tried to walk as much as I could...1/2 to one mile almost every day that I wasn't in the hospital, and then I walked the halls if I could summon up even an ounce of energy. I used a walker, which helped support my back. It was an exercise in courage as well, as it was the last thing I wanted to do. The pool was out because of the transplant issues and central lines.

#6 Support: I tried the local women's cancer group, but I was the only one there without breast cancer. No one could even relate. I didn't even get to talk to and MEET anyone else with MM until over a year after my diagnosis, when I started a support group myself after being discharged from the Hutch (The transplant program is out-patient, but you have to be in the area, within half an hour of the clinic and hospital, and my transplants took about 8 or 9 months.)

That being said, finally getting some support, getting some questions answered, and being able to GIVE support to other patients, was so very, very helpful.

I'm not going to kid you. The M.M. journey is long and arduous...that's the truth. There is no pink ribbon for us, no M.M. "month." (M.M's ribbon is burgandy--not a widely known fact.) While I would be happy to tell you more about my personal experience, side effects they didn't tell me about (or I didn't remember or hear), and the length of time the healing process can take, it would only be that...MY experience. Everyone is different. "It depends" is a phrase you will hear again and again. Just know that I am happy to be available to M.M. patients who are just beginning their journey with this weird disease, or who just need another M.M. survivor to talk to. I am grateful for my counseling skills and grief therapy training as they helped me manage my healing process with a positive attitude and a grateful heart (or so I've been told). And, while general cancer support groups have their place, M.M. is a unique experience. Check with the M.M. Foundation and find a support group close to you. Not a support group person? Feeling too ill to make it to a meeting? Online support and informational telephone "conferences" are also available. Thank Heavens for the Internet!!! And if you would like to message me with questions or you just need to vent, I would be happy to offer anyone (patients, caregivers, family members) the support I so dearly wished someone had offered me and mine way back when.

Stay positive, laugh, and learn to knit or meditate (actually knitting has been found to have the same beneficial effects as meditation)!!!

Karen

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Hi I just found out back end of last summer I have no support still just trying to find out as much as I can about it my asthma Dr found it he sent me to other Dr he confirmed it
Ihe has done blood work every 3 months or so have had people praying for me
Dr has said so doesn't seem to be affecting me had none scan and none density also
My family could care less always been like that with me
I'm just wondering if I should get a appointment at Mayo clinic to see what they can do and tell
My Dr said nothing I should be doing or not doing I asked him no to both sorry I ramble just fill like I have to king time bomb inside me could go off anytime I have several other chronic illnesses I feel like how am I going to know I'm already fatigued from those illnesses does insurance
cover mayo clinic
Thank you so much hope you are doing well

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Profile picture for khnielsen @khnielsen

Dear Frazer 1 (and any other MM patients, family members, and caregivers),

I am a 58 year old woman who was diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma on June 15th, 2000, only three weeks after graduating with my Master's degree in Counseling (at age 46). I was in the later stages of the disease: I believe Stage B4 would be the correct term? My skull, spine, ribs, upper arms, pelvis, and femurs had tumors. I seriously don't know how I managed to work 20 hours a week and go full-time to graduate school and STILL graduate with a perfect 4.0 (simply bragging here, folks!)

The main point of my reply is the date of my diagnosis....JUNE 15th, 2000... over TWELVE YEARS AGO. And, after having having a double "mini" transplant (my own stem cells and my sister's stem cells) at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, I am STILL IN REMISSION. More good news: last June I went to a reunion weekend at "The Hutch" as we Hutch patients call it, and I met a woman who had had a FULL stem cell donor transplant and SHE was still in remission after FIFTEEN years.

When I was diagnosed in 2000, the blankety-blank hematologist/oncologist (now HE is another other story) informed me I had only eighteen months to two years to live. I wasn't willing to accept that so I started making phone calls to the nearest big medical centers (not being close to the Mayo Clinic). One call led to another and I found out that I had a lot more options than I thought. M.M. wasn't the "terminal" cancer I had been told it was. Yes, there is no specific "cure." But at least I had a chance.

What to expect...it depends...it depends on the specific treatment, on your individual body, and your attitude...and (I can't believe I'm typing this) prayer. Research has shown that patients who were prayed for had statistically significant improvement over patients who weren't prayed for...and these patients were not aware they were receiving organized prayer.

NUMBER ONE: YOU MUST ABSOLUTELY GET ANOTHER OPINION and ADVOCATE FOR YOURSELF. iF you are too ill and/or overwhelmed to do so, assign tasks to your family and friends...doing something for you will aid in their feeling helpless and out-of-control. For example, my brother took care of all the research for me, since "chemo brain" reduced my computer skills to a big fat zero.

NUMBER 2: You need to talk to your oncologist or G.P. about being on blood thinners. It is part of the recommended treatment but one that my blankety blank oncologist didn't bother with and it almost killed me. M.M. patients throw clots. Clots cause pulmonary embolisms. P.E., can kill a person. Watch out for the blood thinner cumadin (warfarin)...I had real problems with it working not enough and then way too much (another near death experience). The "Hutch" put me on daily Lovenox shots, which worked much better with my M.M. body.

NUMBER 3: HYDRATION!!! HYDRATION!!! HYDRATION!!! The Hutch recommended 3 litres of fluids a day (that includes coffee, tea, watermelon, whatever). I couldn't manage to do anywhere near that amount it orally, so for almost two years (due to complications) I had IV. fluids using my central line. I went through 4 months of V.A.D. chemotherapy plus the transplant chemo regimens. Thanks to the fluids, my kidneys are normal! Even though I still need to take meds for other cancer related side-effects (like Addison's Disease) my kidneys are handling all of them! NOTE: My caregiver was a hospital respiratory therapist, very experienced, and she went to war for my fluids. I'll never be able to thank her enough.

#4 Diet: Yes, I tried the super healthy cancer diets and vitamins and naturopathic supplements. They simple made me throw up. And the nutritionist at the Hutch did educate me on good nutrition, but I was just one of those patients who threw up at the blink of an eye. I got very good at it, and could even knit and barf at the same time! Hey, you HAVE to develop a good sense of humor if you don't already have one. The nutritionist finally said, "Eat anything, whatever you can keep down, and don't stress about it."

#5 Exercise: IF YOU DON'T USE IT, YOU'LL USE IT. Even one or two days down can cause muscle wasting (and blood clots). I tried to walk as much as I could...1/2 to one mile almost every day that I wasn't in the hospital, and then I walked the halls if I could summon up even an ounce of energy. I used a walker, which helped support my back. It was an exercise in courage as well, as it was the last thing I wanted to do. The pool was out because of the transplant issues and central lines.

#6 Support: I tried the local women's cancer group, but I was the only one there without breast cancer. No one could even relate. I didn't even get to talk to and MEET anyone else with MM until over a year after my diagnosis, when I started a support group myself after being discharged from the Hutch (The transplant program is out-patient, but you have to be in the area, within half an hour of the clinic and hospital, and my transplants took about 8 or 9 months.)

That being said, finally getting some support, getting some questions answered, and being able to GIVE support to other patients, was so very, very helpful.

I'm not going to kid you. The M.M. journey is long and arduous...that's the truth. There is no pink ribbon for us, no M.M. "month." (M.M's ribbon is burgandy--not a widely known fact.) While I would be happy to tell you more about my personal experience, side effects they didn't tell me about (or I didn't remember or hear), and the length of time the healing process can take, it would only be that...MY experience. Everyone is different. "It depends" is a phrase you will hear again and again. Just know that I am happy to be available to M.M. patients who are just beginning their journey with this weird disease, or who just need another M.M. survivor to talk to. I am grateful for my counseling skills and grief therapy training as they helped me manage my healing process with a positive attitude and a grateful heart (or so I've been told). And, while general cancer support groups have their place, M.M. is a unique experience. Check with the M.M. Foundation and find a support group close to you. Not a support group person? Feeling too ill to make it to a meeting? Online support and informational telephone "conferences" are also available. Thank Heavens for the Internet!!! And if you would like to message me with questions or you just need to vent, I would be happy to offer anyone (patients, caregivers, family members) the support I so dearly wished someone had offered me and mine way back when.

Stay positive, laugh, and learn to knit or meditate (actually knitting has been found to have the same beneficial effects as meditation)!!!

Karen

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Thank you for sharing and your insight- this was very helpful. I'm not at that stage yet, but MM runs in my family. I am being monitored every (3) months for the last two years by oncologists. They've confirmed it's progressing, but slowly- so that's a good thing. I appreciate your story and the "blankety-blank" oncologist. There are certainly those around.

Mitten

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