Does anyone else have MGUS?

Posted by mjlandin @mjlandin, Jun 4, 2022

I was diagnosed with MGUS last October and although I've done a lot of research, I feel there's still so much I don't know. Does anyone else have MGUS?

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Chris - Sorry, I don't agree with much of what you write. First of all, there is a TON of reliable, publicly-available information on MGUS - risk factors, severity in terms of likelihood of progression, appropriate monitoring and much more. For just one source, the International Myeloma Foundation - for MGUS specifically, https://www.myeloma.org/search - is a great place to start.

Second, MGUS absolutely has a standard of care. "With certain lab values, do not treat but monitor as appropriate" IS a standard of care. You don't treat every condition for which the potential exists, because treatments themselves have risks which must be balanced against the risks that the condition presents. Perhaps a more familiar example (at least for men) is prostate cancer. Approximately 80% of men age 80 and older have prostate cancer (source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK470550/), but very few of them will actually be treated if diagnosed at that age. Why? Because they are far more likely to die from something other than prostate cancer. As I'm sure you've read, here if not elsewhere, the average MGUS patient is unlikely to ever progress to MM. And first-line MM treatment, which is far more easily tolerated than it was even 10-15 years ago, nonetheless has its own risks. First do no harm.

Finally, there are ongoing studies relative to slowing progression, though those studies are directed to SMM patients (rather than MGUS) because of their significantly greater risk. A couple are promising, but AFAIK none have shown results of ultimate benefit (meaning not only slowing progression but extending survival).

I am 74, with high-risk MGUS that seems to have very recently morphed into SMM (it's a continuum) depending on what criteria one uses. When I was first diagnosed (about two years ago), I felt similarly to the way you feel - there's gotta be something to do about this. And there is - keep your weight down, eat well, exercise, get enough sleep. In other words, live a healthy life.

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@wesleym Nicely thought-out reply. I agree with you 100%. I was just diagnosed with SMM. "Watchful waiting" is a treatment. So is living a healthy life. Good luck to everyone!

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Chris - Sorry, I don't agree with much of what you write. First of all, there is a TON of reliable, publicly-available information on MGUS - risk factors, severity in terms of likelihood of progression, appropriate monitoring and much more. For just one source, the International Myeloma Foundation - for MGUS specifically, https://www.myeloma.org/search - is a great place to start.

Second, MGUS absolutely has a standard of care. "With certain lab values, do not treat but monitor as appropriate" IS a standard of care. You don't treat every condition for which the potential exists, because treatments themselves have risks which must be balanced against the risks that the condition presents. Perhaps a more familiar example (at least for men) is prostate cancer. Approximately 80% of men age 80 and older have prostate cancer (source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK470550/), but very few of them will actually be treated if diagnosed at that age. Why? Because they are far more likely to die from something other than prostate cancer. As I'm sure you've read, here if not elsewhere, the average MGUS patient is unlikely to ever progress to MM. And first-line MM treatment, which is far more easily tolerated than it was even 10-15 years ago, nonetheless has its own risks. First do no harm.

Finally, there are ongoing studies relative to slowing progression, though those studies are directed to SMM patients (rather than MGUS) because of their significantly greater risk. A couple are promising, but AFAIK none have shown results of ultimate benefit (meaning not only slowing progression but extending survival).

I am 74, with high-risk MGUS that seems to have very recently morphed into SMM (it's a continuum) depending on what criteria one uses. When I was first diagnosed (about two years ago), I felt similarly to the way you feel - there's gotta be something to do about this. And there is - keep your weight down, eat well, exercise, get enough sleep. In other words, live a healthy life.

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@gingerw I have MGUS since I had a broken hip and replacement last year. M spike showed one time. Oncologist happy that blood work is normal. I am elderly at 84 but still competent. I have a doctorate in nursing. Yet I am very unsatisfied faith advice from MDs . All other pre cancer conditions do something or do some meds etc to prevent progression. Not MGUS.! MM is. Deadly cancer. Why no intervention at MGUS. Also thoughts on Tumeric.. Thanks Chris Malloy

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@sunsetchris The rate that MGUS may advance into smoldering multiple myeloma, and then into multiple myeloma, is pretty slow, for the vast majority of people. There are many forms of myeloma, that is why it is called "multiple". And another reason why there is no set protocol to waylay the progression, as it is many-pronged. Does that make sense? It is like finding a needle in a haystack.

Glad to hear your blood values are normal.
Ginger

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@crazbound Welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect! So many of us can definitely relate to having a lot of questions when we first get a surprise diagnosis.

I'm glad to hear you are going to have more testing done to narrow down exactly what is going on. In the meantime, here is some information you can read up on:
From Mayo Clinic's website related to MGUS: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/mgus/symptoms-causes/syc-20352362
And from the Internaltional Myeloma foundation website: https://www.myeloma.org/what-are-mgus-smm-mm

And, as my oncologist always tells me, please don't spend a lot of time "Dr. Googling"! It is so easy to get wrapped up in many unrelated topics, scaring yourself, and thinking the worst. Be gentle on yourself. Wait to see what test results come back, and discuss them with your doctors. MGUS can stick around for a long time and never progress beyond that. It's important to remember that, okay?

Let me know if you have questions! We're here to help.
Ginger

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@gingerw I have MGUS since I had a broken hip and replacement last year. M spike showed one time. Oncologist happy that blood work is normal. I am elderly at 84 but still competent. I have a doctorate in nursing. Yet I am very unsatisfied faith advice from MDs . All other pre cancer conditions do something or do some meds etc to prevent progression. Not MGUS.! MM is. Deadly cancer. Why no intervention at MGUS. Also thoughts on Tumeric.. Thanks Chris Malloy

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Yes I have MGUS and obsess about it. Information is very limited on severity and what it means. If u had a skin leision your dermatologist would biopsy it and determine whether it was malignant or progressing. MGUS has no standard of care and u just have to wait for any treatment until in turns to MM. Every other cancer has preventative steps I.E skin cancer or breast. But here we have a definite precursor to a deadly cancer and yet the medical community just says wait until it turns. Is that the most ridiculous thing you have ever heard.? Anyone feel the same?

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try & live your best life ever. Sit present with your diagnosis and symptoms. Rest when your body needs it, eat well & exercise as tolerated.

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@rachelziman72, I echo @theadosi's question and add my welcome.

Rachel, have you also been diagnosed with MGUS? How are you doing?

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I was diagnosed with MGUS probably 8 or more years ago.The thing to do is get your bloodwork done every six- twelve months. If your numbers are worse, see your hematologist/ oncologist. If the numbers remain pretty much the same or even better, just forget to worry and enjoy your life! Good luck.

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@spenjen hey there! How old were you when you were diagnosed?

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Its pretty common. Can become more serious or not. Monitoring is the recommended treatment for most.

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I was diagnosed in 2016. I am positive for the genetic mutation for WM (myd88) and have plasma cells and lymphoplasma cells in my bone marrow, but was 5% at last check so still mgus.

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I was diagnosed with MGUS probably 8 or more years ago.The thing to do is get your bloodwork done every six- twelve months. If your numbers are worse, see your hematologist/ oncologist. If the numbers remain pretty much the same or even better, just forget to worry and enjoy your life! Good luck.

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