Member Neuropathy Journey Stories: What's Yours?

Posted by John, Volunteer Mentor @johnbishop, May 12, 2020

This discussion was created as a place for members to share their journey with neuropathy. This will allow members to easily learn from each other what has helped them and hopefully help new members avoid some of the painful and difficult struggles some of us have faced. The following is a suggested outline for sharing your story that would be helpful for other members for comparison to their own neuropathy story.

— When did your neuropathy start? What were the symptoms? When and how was it diagnosed?
— What treatments or medications have you tried?
— What side effects have you had, if any?

Optional:
— What would you tell your best friend if they told you they had neuropathy?
— What activities have you had to give up because of neuropathy? What do you instead?
— How has your life changed socially? at work? at home?

What's your neuropathy story?

Note: If you want to ask a question for another member who has posted their neuropathy story here in this discussion, be sure to add their @membername in your post, for example @johnbishop. Your question may already be discussed in other neuropathy discussions. Be sure to check here first: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/group/neuropathy/ That way this discussion can be reserved for member neuropathy stories and hopefully make it easier to read and find similar symptoms to your own.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Neuropathy Support Group.

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I can't believe that you've actually sat with a doctor for more than 15 minutes. The nurse comes in, takes my Blood Pressure. Asks me questions the doctor walks in the doctor walks out. I said, don't I get to talk to her and she's gone. And I followed this woman down the hall. Excuse me, I have questions. Excuse me, excuse me, and she just kept walking like I was not right behind her until she went through 2 swinging doors that closed and locked. This is after waiting 5 months to talk to somebody, she called in like 5 prescriptions. Because you had taken blood work But she never looked at the medications. I was on and how contradictory they are with one another.
And as you've read then, the next doctor sent me for all these mrison tests never called me with the results. I got there myself that the day I took them. But I called her texted her, and messaged her 3 times a day, every single day for almost 4 months, had still never had a reply from her that it became like a running joke with myself. But see if she'll ever answer me, and then I get my bill. Well, that was it. Then, I had to wait 8 months, but I think I found somebody who is willing to really go deep with me. She spent over 3 hours having me go over the step-by-step. And all these tests she goes, look. I'm not certain these are all, but we're going to look for Everything. And I burst into tears, somebody actually listened, and then I fall and had to put every test on hold. Because I can't go into metal machines with, a metal plate in my arm the elderly really do get shafted in this country. It's such a pity and I'm willing to pay out-of-pocket. Not that I'm a rich woman, but I want answers. I can't even buy my way into an appointment. I hire you the concierge doctor she's as good as urgent care.
And I'm not sure if it's a Florida thing because I don't know where you live. But I can't imagine that you get treated like this in New York or any major metropolitan area. We're old news. Soon to be older.
And it really starts to play with your mind because it messes with the quality of life. And if you don't have a great reason to live, and you're always in pain, you think, what's the point? And then I come back strong and fight the good fight.
I really hope that they find answers for you as well. Because nothing hurts me and I'm not sick. I just have no feeling in my leg when I go to stand every now and again. And I go down hard, I guess it's this old age fat lady thing... I'm no longer a size zero with my five inch stilettos and little crop tops boo hoo.

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@malmor
How did you get an MRI with a metal plate in your arm?
Are you with concierge now?

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I started my journey with neuropathy when I was in my early 50s, with some numbness that started in my toes on both feet. I mostly ignored it because there was no pain and I really didn’t think much about it. After a few years, the numbness progressed to the bottoms of both feet and I mentioned it to my primary care doctor who said it could be nerve damage. He said they could run some tests and determine if it was nerve damage. I asked if they determine if it is nerve damage what can be done. I was surprised when he mentioned there was not any treatment that will help with numbness.

The numbness gradually increased over the years and in my early 70s the numbness had progressed to just below my knees. It was at this point that I was worried about my mobility and what the future would hold so I talked with my primary care doctor who helped me get an appointment with a neurologist. The neurologist scheduled some lab tests including an MRI, nerve conduction test and a physical exam. I was diagnosed with idiopathic small fiber peripheral neuropathy but unlike most people diagnosed with neuropathy I only had the numbness and no associated pain. I was disappointed that there was no treatment available even though I had a diagnosis but that is pretty much what my first doctor had told me 20 years ago.

After I received my diagnosis of small fiber PN I was trying every topical cream available that said it would help neuropathy with zero results. Then I found a book by Dr. Terry Wahls, The Wahls Protocol. She shared how using functional medicine and nutrient rich foods helped her treat her symptoms of multiple sclerosis and get her life back. This started my journey on looking at nutrition as a possible treatment for my neuropathy.

I learned there are a bunch of companies and folks with neuropathy treatments looking to take your money and it is up to you to do your own research and avoid scams. Fortunately, there is a lot of information on how to avoid scams but it is out of sight, out of mind for a lot of folks. Here are the ones I have used:

Quazar's wonderful guidance about avoiding scams and snake oil cures:
-- https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/how-to-avoid-quacks-and-snake-oil-treatments/

FDA's Health Fraud Page:
-- https://www.fda.gov/forconsumers/consumerupdates/ucm278980.htm

NIH's National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health (NCCIH) which offers guidance about integrative health and how to evaluate it:
-- https://nccih.nih.gov/health/decisions

That said, I have found a protocol of supplements developed by fellow neuropathy patients that works for me and has helped others with PN get off the pain medications. I was skeptical at first and took the list of supplements and vitamins to my doctor who shared it with the Mayo pharmacist to get his feedback on any interactions. His only comment was he thought the omega 3s in the list was high.

You can read more about it in this discussion:

Have you tried the new Protocol 525 product for neuropathy relief? https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/have-you-tried-the-new-protocol-525-product-for-neuropathy-relief/

I started taking the supplements/vitamins September 2016 and by December the numbness in both legs went from just below the knees to just above the ankles. I have not made any more progress, but I am OK with it since I feel it has stopped the progression. My neurologist had told me to just watch it and let him know when it gets worse – in other words there is nothing I can do to fix it. Recently I have seen some feeling return to my feet at different times during the day which gives me some hope of more progress and a new normal.

I’ve been a member of Mayo Clinic Connect since 2016. And it gives me great comfort to talk with others, share ideas and information, not only here in the Neuropathy group, but also in other groups as new health questions come up, like managing PMR, getting a knee replacement, a CPAP, etc. Ahh, the joys of aging. Hey, if you qualify ;-), you might also want to join me in this group on Connect: Aging Well. (See all 70+ Groups on Mayo Clinic Connect here: https://connect.mayoclinic.org/groups/)

What’s your neuropathy story?

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@johnbishop can you post the B vitamins and dosages in the protocol?

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@johnbishop can you post the B vitamins and dosages in the protocol?

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@penn1023 They are in the Why the Protocol document I've shared before. Here's the link - https://cdn.prod-carehubs.net/n1/748e8fe697af5de8/uploads/2023/11/WHY-THE-PROTOCOL.pdf.

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@malmor
How did you get an MRI with a metal plate in your arm?
Are you with concierge now?

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@penn1023 that's the problem.I fell two days before my battery attests were scheduled.I was to have emgs down the right side of my body.So wednesday, they were indo, my arm, and on friday.My leg and then on saturday, the mri with and without contrast, and I go splat ... Everything is on hold again.
And I was starting to get hope somebody was being proactive and looking in other areas. I even had seizure tests. Because I have an avm in my right temporal lobe. You know, just throwing enough darts at the wall? Something might stick, but just increasing my vitamin supplements is not doing it. So tomorrow is my post op. Doctor appointment and see where I go after that. I don't know how long all this takes.
But it's quite a disappointment

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@malmor
How did you get an MRI with a metal plate in your arm?
Are you with concierge now?

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@penn1023 yes, i'm with the concierge general practitioner, so basically you pay an annual fee.Just so you can get a doctor's appointment.If you have a cold or a headache, and then you pay like you.Normally would for a doctor it's the most bizarre ridiculous concept i thought this person would be my quarterback for all the specialists, but there's no connecting the dots going on here. And I'm making my own appointments for every kind of specialist after doing research and eliminating things. And by far, no means a doctor but if every month, for 16 months, my blood work clearly shows nutritional deficit, and I eat like crap, but you keep increasing and increasing. And increasing the dosages of all these vitamins and supplements. And yet my levels are remaining the same as if I never took a vitamin. So the next normal question would be is, why is she not absorbing these nutrients. Not just constantly increasing the dosages and you don't need a medical degree to grasp that concept.

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So sorry you are going through all this. I was considering concierge but I don’t think so now.
I just quit my b vitamins because I think they are contributing to my PN. I took a B 6 blood test and it was very high.

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