Liver transplant - Let's support each other

Posted by lmctif @lmctif, Oct 29, 2018

What topics do people who are waiting for a liver transplant want to talk about? Who has had a liver transplant and wants to talk about?

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@jeanne5009

@contentandwell
I don't remember what your Meld was during your waiting time. Mine has been holding around 8 for 2 years. At my last visit my Dr. told me not to get complacent as it could go up quickly.
So...I wait! Feels like pregnancy.....even the bloat..lol

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@jeanne5009 My MELD started at around 15 I think, in July 2015. What I remember better was that after doing an MRI and discovering malignant lesions it went up quickly to 18. Then it generally went up by 2 or 3 points I think it was, every 3 months. By the summer of 2016 I was at MELD 28. I was doing OK and not feeling too unwell, except for the tremendous fluid retention that I suddenly developed, most of it in September.
I got the call on September 22 despite my MELD not being over 30 which was surprising since MGH at that time was generally transplanting in the low 30s. I almost contacted Mayo to get on their list because they told me they thought they could transplant me specifically at 28! I am happy that I was able to stay at MGH since it's just about 55 miles down the highway.
It's sort of unusual that I was feeling so well other than the fluid because when the transplant occurred at 12:30 A.M. and they dissected my old liver it was pretty much spent! So, I was very fortunate that I got the call when I did.
I must have just been an excellent match for the young woman who was my donor. She and I were of very similar size and had to be the same blood type, B+. When they called they said they might be splitting the liver with part of it going for a pediatric transplant but that did not turn out to be a good match apparently because I got the whole liver.
JK

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@jeanne5009

@contentandwell
I don't remember what your Meld was during your waiting time. Mine has been holding around 8 for 2 years. At my last visit my Dr. told me not to get complacent as it could go up quickly.
So...I wait! Feels like pregnancy.....even the bloat..lol

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@jeanne5009, I also used to feel like I was pregnant, and overdue while I waited. Everytime that I had a paracentesis to drain the fluids, I felt normal for a few days though.
I hope that your doctor will call you sooner rather than later. The hard truth is that there is absolutely no way to know when that will be. Are you ready? Is your bag packed? Here is some advice from all of your friends on Connect -

-Waiting for the Call: What needs to get done at home before you go?
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/waiting-for-the-call-what-needs-to-get-done-at-home-before-you-go/
-Packing question: What did you have ready for "the call"?
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/packing-question/
As you have already learned, We are going to answer any question that you want to add to those discussions.
Hugs and Hope.

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@jeanne5009

@contentandwell
I don't remember what your Meld was during your waiting time. Mine has been holding around 8 for 2 years. At my last visit my Dr. told me not to get complacent as it could go up quickly.
So...I wait! Feels like pregnancy.....even the bloat..lol

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Mine (Melsd score) went up every 3 months or so. Went in at 25 then 27 then jumped to 30 in a period of 8 months. It got scary near the end but got my transplant in the nick of time.

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@contentandwell

@jsw. How fortunate you were to have something you thought might be the flu land you in the hospital. That must have been quite a nightmare for you. I am glad that you are well now. As with @jacqualin, it’s amazing to me that you must have a fairly severe problem for a long time for your MELD to be so high.
Those of us with longer waits have not had such an acute problem. I was actually feeling pretty good through my wait on most days, until the last 4-6 weeks.
JK

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@contentandwell
I don't remember what your Meld was during your waiting time. Mine has been holding around 8 for 2 years. At my last visit my Dr. told me not to get complacent as it could go up quickly.
So...I wait! Feels like pregnancy.....even the bloat..lol

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@jsw

I don’t know if this warrants a “nice to meet you” or a “so sorry to meet you in this manner” but your story hits very close to home: I also had no idea I was sick. One weekend I was spending time in NYC with my childhood best friend; the next, I was in the hospital. The doctors had no idea what was wrong and I thought I had just caught the flu that had been going around the office. My diagnosis began with pneumonia and changed to autoimmune hepatitis, acute renal failure, respiratory failure, and acute liver failure throughout the course of one month. (Yes: one month.) I was hospitalized on April 5, 2019, and placed on the list May 5, 2019, with a MELD score of 39. It took multiple MRIs, CT scans, X-rays, ‘oscopys, IVs, blood tests, and 17 blood transfusions to arrive at those final conclusions. I had a liver transplant on May 10, 2019, with an understanding that I’d probably need both kidneys transplanted as well. I spent a few more weeks on dialysis post-transplant. Eleven months later, so far, so good!

It’s frightening to know that the physical I had one year before didn’t show anything. It’s frightening to be told “you have five days to live.” It’s heartbreaking to know that people stay on these lists for years and live in fear for years, yet I spent five days on the list. It was surreal to be told, “The good news is, you’re at the top of the list; the bad news is, you’re at the top of the list.” I feel grateful and guilty; happy and sad; but above all, feel blessed.

Heavy but true. I know you’re 4 months out. I promise you it will get easier.

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Wow! You're right...your story hits so close to home! Amazing!! I'm so glad to hear you're doing well!! Almost at your 1 year mark! Thant's exciting! Congratulations!!

Are you still on dialysis, or after the few weeks post-transplant did your kidneys go back to normal function? I did dialysis 6 times after my discharge from the hospital. I had had routine blood work in Jan 6, 2020, and it came back pretty good...I mean, nothing crazy, so to be so sick on Jan 20 was a mind blow!!

I too feel grateful, and at the same time knowing how many others haven't been as fortunate to receive a transplant! We are blessed!! I'm so glad you reached out and shared your story with me...This is a "nice to meet you"!!

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@jsw

I don’t know if this warrants a “nice to meet you” or a “so sorry to meet you in this manner” but your story hits very close to home: I also had no idea I was sick. One weekend I was spending time in NYC with my childhood best friend; the next, I was in the hospital. The doctors had no idea what was wrong and I thought I had just caught the flu that had been going around the office. My diagnosis began with pneumonia and changed to autoimmune hepatitis, acute renal failure, respiratory failure, and acute liver failure throughout the course of one month. (Yes: one month.) I was hospitalized on April 5, 2019, and placed on the list May 5, 2019, with a MELD score of 39. It took multiple MRIs, CT scans, X-rays, ‘oscopys, IVs, blood tests, and 17 blood transfusions to arrive at those final conclusions. I had a liver transplant on May 10, 2019, with an understanding that I’d probably need both kidneys transplanted as well. I spent a few more weeks on dialysis post-transplant. Eleven months later, so far, so good!

It’s frightening to know that the physical I had one year before didn’t show anything. It’s frightening to be told “you have five days to live.” It’s heartbreaking to know that people stay on these lists for years and live in fear for years, yet I spent five days on the list. It was surreal to be told, “The good news is, you’re at the top of the list; the bad news is, you’re at the top of the list.” I feel grateful and guilty; happy and sad; but above all, feel blessed.

Heavy but true. I know you’re 4 months out. I promise you it will get easier.

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@jsw. How fortunate you were to have something you thought might be the flu land you in the hospital. That must have been quite a nightmare for you. I am glad that you are well now. As with @jacqualin, it’s amazing to me that you must have a fairly severe problem for a long time for your MELD to be so high.
Those of us with longer waits have not had such an acute problem. I was actually feeling pretty good through my wait on most days, until the last 4-6 weeks.
JK

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@jacqualin

Thank you so much for your reply! My transplant was unexpected. I've been cabin crew for a major airline for 31 yrs, and used Tylenol PM as my sleep aid. I think you know where this is going!! I got in from an Intl. trip on 1/16/20...didn't feel good. Went to urgent care on 1/20/20, I had the flu...I started vomiting on my way out...they sent me to ER where more test were ran...I was in acute liver failure as well...my MELD was 40 1A...on 1/23/20 I became the very fortunate recipient of a healthy liver. I'm very blessed! My transplant team is aware of the fluid, at this point we're just monitoring it. I was just curious if other patients had had this, so thank you for sharing your story with me! It's great to talk to fellow transplant patients! I'm so glad I found this page!!

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I don’t know if this warrants a “nice to meet you” or a “so sorry to meet you in this manner” but your story hits very close to home: I also had no idea I was sick. One weekend I was spending time in NYC with my childhood best friend; the next, I was in the hospital. The doctors had no idea what was wrong and I thought I had just caught the flu that had been going around the office. My diagnosis began with pneumonia and changed to autoimmune hepatitis, acute renal failure, respiratory failure, and acute liver failure throughout the course of one month. (Yes: one month.) I was hospitalized on April 5, 2019, and placed on the list May 5, 2019, with a MELD score of 39. It took multiple MRIs, CT scans, X-rays, ‘oscopys, IVs, blood tests, and 17 blood transfusions to arrive at those final conclusions. I had a liver transplant on May 10, 2019, with an understanding that I’d probably need both kidneys transplanted as well. I spent a few more weeks on dialysis post-transplant. Eleven months later, so far, so good!

It’s frightening to know that the physical I had one year before didn’t show anything. It’s frightening to be told “you have five days to live.” It’s heartbreaking to know that people stay on these lists for years and live in fear for years, yet I spent five days on the list. It was surreal to be told, “The good news is, you’re at the top of the list; the bad news is, you’re at the top of the list.” I feel grateful and guilty; happy and sad; but above all, feel blessed.

Heavy but true. I know you’re 4 months out. I promise you it will get easier.

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@jacqualin

Thank you so much for your reply! My transplant was unexpected. I've been cabin crew for a major airline for 31 yrs, and used Tylenol PM as my sleep aid. I think you know where this is going!! I got in from an Intl. trip on 1/16/20...didn't feel good. Went to urgent care on 1/20/20, I had the flu...I started vomiting on my way out...they sent me to ER where more test were ran...I was in acute liver failure as well...my MELD was 40 1A...on 1/23/20 I became the very fortunate recipient of a healthy liver. I'm very blessed! My transplant team is aware of the fluid, at this point we're just monitoring it. I was just curious if other patients had had this, so thank you for sharing your story with me! It's great to talk to fellow transplant patients! I'm so glad I found this page!!

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@jacqualin Your story is amazing! To have a MELD so high and not have been aware of having liver problems seems very odd. When I was finally diagnosed my MELD was in the teens and I was told by the hepatologist that I had probably had NASH cirrhosis for 10 years, which fit the onset of some symptoms I had that had not been diagnosed as being from liver problems -- low platelets, recent diagnosis of diabetes when there was never any in my family, shaky hands, and the biggie -- HE episodes. It took about a year and a half for my MELD to get high enough for me to have a transplant.
I find it very interesting that acetaminophen can cause liver problems yet after transplant it is the only OTC pain reliever allowed, of course in limited dosage. Even some other doctors I have been to have been quite surprised at that.
I hope the fluid will gradually go away as mine did.

@tjgisewhite Hopefully being off of prednisone will help your weight to go down. I was on a high dose of it once for some condition and gained a substantial amount of weight in the two week course of it. I envy you getting off of it, I am still on 5mg a day. I believe this is because my blood numbers are not quite within range and it helps with that. My platelets are always lower than desired by a little. I wish I could blame prednisone for the weight I have gained recently but I think it's my fault, not the prednisone. I do blame being on prednisone for over three years now for my osteoporosis.
I still take biotin, recommended by my transplant team, for my hair. It's also good for fingernails and mine are thin and peeling so I hope it helps with that. The only thing to be conscious of with biotin is that if you have thyroid tests (TSH) it can alter the test results (per my endocrinologist), so if you are going to have that test you should stop taking it a few beforehand.
JK

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@jsw

My hair fell out in chunks—I jokingly told my mother she could make voodoo dolls of me after each shower—but as my NP predicted, it was only temporary. As someone with very thin, very fine hair, I was really freaking out and couldn’t care less about the “temporary” because I didn’t have enough hair to begin with! But I will say that Biotin worked wonders, as did time, and my NP was right: I eventually stopped shedding and pulling out chunks of hair when I showered, and thanks to Biotin (which I still take), my hair is growing back in. Unfortunately, I was told that Prograf was the cause—the one I can never stop taking—but fortunately, Biotin kinda tastes good 🙂

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@jsw thank you so much for your reply. The remark about voodoo dolls is cute. You are now the 3rd person to suggest the Biotin. I am going to inquire about it and see if I can take it. Yes, I also found out it is the prograf that is causing it, which just happens to be the one they ( the Dr.s) are adjusting constantly to get right with me....gggrrrr... 🙂

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@tjgisewhite

@rosemarya good morning. I am doing well except for massive weight gain(almost 40lbs) and my hair is thinning so much. Today is my last day for prednisone thank God. Thursday 4/16 will be my 4 month mark. I'm praying that I will get off some of these meds and maybe I will stop losing my hair and stop gaining weight. Any ideas or suggestions from you or the group would be wonderful. Please don't lecture me on eating or exercise because I already do all that. 😀Thank you for checking up on me.

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My hair fell out in chunks—I jokingly told my mother she could make voodoo dolls of me after each shower—but as my NP predicted, it was only temporary. As someone with very thin, very fine hair, I was really freaking out and couldn’t care less about the “temporary” because I didn’t have enough hair to begin with! But I will say that Biotin worked wonders, as did time, and my NP was right: I eventually stopped shedding and pulling out chunks of hair when I showered, and thanks to Biotin (which I still take), my hair is growing back in. Unfortunately, I was told that Prograf was the cause—the one I can never stop taking—but fortunately, Biotin kinda tastes good 🙂

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