Knee replacement with metal rod above knee

Posted by @parkerm @parkermary, Jun 22, 2017

Hi- I have had a metal rod in my leg, above knee, for 3 years now due to a break. I now am quickly approaching knee replacement (same leg) so that rod will be removed at time of knee replacement. Just wondering if anyone else had these procedures together? And, if so, how did the additional work (removing rod) effect the rehab/recovery of the knee replacement?

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Hello @parkermary, and welcome to Connect.

It sounds like you have a rather unique situation. We have many members talking about knee replacements here on Connect, many of which have been very recent. You may be interested in checking out a few other discussions centered around knee replacements:

– Haven’t been on here since my TKR, http://mayocl.in/2sJWQUU
– After knee replacement, http://mayocl.in/2bVSUwB

@parkermary, if you are comfortable, would you mind sharing a few more details about your situation? If they are removing the rod, what does that mean for your leg stability? By getting a knee replacement, do they think that will stabilize the leg without the metal rod?

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Hi @JustinMcClanahan – I will try to offer an abbreviated version of my situation. Due to Ollier’s disease, bone structure, and previous fractures, my leg stability is questionable without any supplemental support. My doctor and I have discussed several options, ranging from no stabilizer to using bone to replace the metal rod. The latter is the option the seems most viable right now. I will see dr again in August to hopefully finalize plans for TKR. I am very familiar with rehabbing a TKR, since my mom and mother-in-law have both had that experience. So my concern is just how much difference might arise with that additional work being added to the TKR?

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I need a TKA however I have an existing femoral rod (since 1999) and have been warned that I would be at a high risk for fracture above the knee. I also previously had a rod in my femur from 1971 to 1973. I had that rod removed and later broke my femur a second time in 1999 requiring the current rod.
I am now a high functioning 65 year old male however my knee needs the TKA. One suggestion has been removal of the rod and later after healing do the TKA. Suggestions?? Anyone else been in this situation??

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@sassoton

I need a TKA however I have an existing femoral rod (since 1999) and have been warned that I would be at a high risk for fracture above the knee. I also previously had a rod in my femur from 1971 to 1973. I had that rod removed and later broke my femur a second time in 1999 requiring the current rod.
I am now a high functioning 65 year old male however my knee needs the TKA. One suggestion has been removal of the rod and later after healing do the TKA. Suggestions?? Anyone else been in this situation??

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@sassoton – First, Welcome to Connect! There are a bunch of us here who have dealt with TKR's. I'm 68 and I've had two. But I don't recall hearing about anyone with a femoral rod. I can imagine that this must be scary and confusing as to how to proceed. While we wait for more experienced people than me to chime in, I have to ask, did your orthopedic surgeon suggest removing the rod and waiting for the TKR until its healed? Are you questioning whether to get a second opinion?

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@sassoton

I need a TKA however I have an existing femoral rod (since 1999) and have been warned that I would be at a high risk for fracture above the knee. I also previously had a rod in my femur from 1971 to 1973. I had that rod removed and later broke my femur a second time in 1999 requiring the current rod.
I am now a high functioning 65 year old male however my knee needs the TKA. One suggestion has been removal of the rod and later after healing do the TKA. Suggestions?? Anyone else been in this situation??

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My Mother had a femoral rod put in her leg AFTER she had her TKR however. She was 68 when had TKR and 74 when fractured her femoral bone just below the hip bone. SHe was doing fine, but was extemely independent and decided to build a new home on coast of SC. She knew no one and was still under her orthopedic surgeons care in Lexington. My brother lives 750 miles from her new home on the east coast and I live approximately the same so it wasn't like we were near to help her. She didn't finish her femoral PT before she moved either, which very much concerned me…but she was stubburn so what can you do? Within 2 mths of moving to her new home, she fell and (get this) broke the titanium rod in her leg….and then after redoing that surgery, she fell again 4 mths later and did it again. At that point, I went down to live with her and between myself, her wonderful SC orthopedic surgeon, her PT and my brother who played the "bad cop" when need arose, I had her going to PT 5 days a week, walking with her walk around the neighborhood, water walking 4 days a week in the pool until I finally got her walking 2 to 2.5 miles on the nature trail every evening when it cooled off. (That was probably the longest distance she had walked in 20 years! She looked great, her muscle tone had dramatically improved, etc etc. She did suffer from seasonal allergies and was prone to get bronchitis in the Spring, and SC is particularly high pollen area at that time of year. Her Ortho surgeon was very pleased with her dramatic recovery and didn't feel her TKR 6 yrs earlier had played a part in her breaking the femoral rod…rather, lack of muscle strengh, causing balance issues and not finishing her PT the first time seemed to be the culprit. However, I agree with Debbra, I would get a second opinion. I am a long time Mayo patient for extensive orthopedic issues, and if you are able, I would highly recommend seeing the docs there for you second opinion. God speed and good luck

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@sassoton

I need a TKA however I have an existing femoral rod (since 1999) and have been warned that I would be at a high risk for fracture above the knee. I also previously had a rod in my femur from 1971 to 1973. I had that rod removed and later broke my femur a second time in 1999 requiring the current rod.
I am now a high functioning 65 year old male however my knee needs the TKA. One suggestion has been removal of the rod and later after healing do the TKA. Suggestions?? Anyone else been in this situation??

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PS I am very athletic as well, and had my first TKR in Feb. I will need the other knee done as well eventually, but I am going to Mayo to see if I would be a good candidate for the stem cell replacement procedure next time. My knee is not functioning like my other knee and a ligament was pulled loose during the surgery….needless to say, I am heading up to my Ortho's at Mayo to get their opinion and see if they can repair it.

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@sassoton

I need a TKA however I have an existing femoral rod (since 1999) and have been warned that I would be at a high risk for fracture above the knee. I also previously had a rod in my femur from 1971 to 1973. I had that rod removed and later broke my femur a second time in 1999 requiring the current rod.
I am now a high functioning 65 year old male however my knee needs the TKA. One suggestion has been removal of the rod and later after healing do the TKA. Suggestions?? Anyone else been in this situation??

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@sassoton I have had two TKRs but have never even known anyone with a rod. Why was it put there? I think the suggestions you have sound like they are fairly knowledgeable. Removing the rod prior to the TKR sounds like it may be the best option.
I'm amazed that @killerbees mother broke two titanium rods. I would not have even thought that was possible!
If you feel confident of your orthopedic surgeon then you should go with what he/she suggests. Still, a second opinion never hurts.
JK

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@killerbees

My Mother had a femoral rod put in her leg AFTER she had her TKR however. She was 68 when had TKR and 74 when fractured her femoral bone just below the hip bone. SHe was doing fine, but was extemely independent and decided to build a new home on coast of SC. She knew no one and was still under her orthopedic surgeons care in Lexington. My brother lives 750 miles from her new home on the east coast and I live approximately the same so it wasn't like we were near to help her. She didn't finish her femoral PT before she moved either, which very much concerned me…but she was stubburn so what can you do? Within 2 mths of moving to her new home, she fell and (get this) broke the titanium rod in her leg….and then after redoing that surgery, she fell again 4 mths later and did it again. At that point, I went down to live with her and between myself, her wonderful SC orthopedic surgeon, her PT and my brother who played the "bad cop" when need arose, I had her going to PT 5 days a week, walking with her walk around the neighborhood, water walking 4 days a week in the pool until I finally got her walking 2 to 2.5 miles on the nature trail every evening when it cooled off. (That was probably the longest distance she had walked in 20 years! She looked great, her muscle tone had dramatically improved, etc etc. She did suffer from seasonal allergies and was prone to get bronchitis in the Spring, and SC is particularly high pollen area at that time of year. Her Ortho surgeon was very pleased with her dramatic recovery and didn't feel her TKR 6 yrs earlier had played a part in her breaking the femoral rod…rather, lack of muscle strengh, causing balance issues and not finishing her PT the first time seemed to be the culprit. However, I agree with Debbra, I would get a second opinion. I am a long time Mayo patient for extensive orthopedic issues, and if you are able, I would highly recommend seeing the docs there for you second opinion. God speed and good luck

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Wow @killerbees – That is an amazing story about your mom's orthopedic journey and you are the hero in the story! She's lucky to have had your support. I agree with JK that I've never heard of anyone breaking a titanium rod! From your post, it sounds as if you moved to SC to be with your mom so I'm guessing you use Mayo JAX. My orthopedic surgeon is there – Dr. Ortiguera. If you are going there for a TKR, I know you'd be very pleased with him. Not sure about stem cell replacement. Have you found a doctor for that?

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Hello there, I’m in desperate need to have total knee replacement due to degenerative osteoarthritis, medial miniscus (sp) tear, and horrible pain but I keep putting it off because I have a rod, 2 pins and 2 screws in my femur due to a car accident. So I wondered if anyone has went through this or what the process it? It may or may not matter, but the rod has been in for 21 years. I have had therapy, laprascopic surgery to clean it out, steroid shots and silicone injections all done with no relief. Thanks so much!

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@ooshaleigh

Hello there, I’m in desperate need to have total knee replacement due to degenerative osteoarthritis, medial miniscus (sp) tear, and horrible pain but I keep putting it off because I have a rod, 2 pins and 2 screws in my femur due to a car accident. So I wondered if anyone has went through this or what the process it? It may or may not matter, but the rod has been in for 21 years. I have had therapy, laprascopic surgery to clean it out, steroid shots and silicone injections all done with no relief. Thanks so much!

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Hi @ooshaleigh and welcome to Mayo Clinic Connect. I know that @skeleton recently posted in our Neuropathy group about bike riding and that they had 3 femur breaks, titanium rod in each femur, plus a trapped nerve at the perineal. Perhaps they can share their experience with you. @skeleton have you had any knee issues with your rod and pins?

@ooshaleigh, Have you talked to a physician about your options yet?

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What ever happened with this? I have a rod in my femur and I need my knee replaced on that same side so I’m wondering how it’s going to go and what all is going to happen. How long is the recovery? Thanks!

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@ooshaleigh

What ever happened with this? I have a rod in my femur and I need my knee replaced on that same side so I’m wondering how it’s going to go and what all is going to happen. How long is the recovery? Thanks!

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Hi @ooshaleigh, I'm sorry that there hasn't been any responses. I know this can't be easy for you. I've had a TKR but not with a prior fracture and my recovery was pretty good at 76 when it was done. I think it was about 4 months or so until I was close to having normal use but I never did have any associated pain with the TKR. I did find an article on the topic which may help but I'm not sure.

Total Knee Arthroplasty in Patients with Prior Femoral and Tibial Fractures: Outcomes and Risk Factors for Surgical Site Complications and Reoperations: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/os.12610

I think no one really knows the answer of how the surgery and recovery will go. My recommendation would be to find the best orthopedic sports medicine surgeon that does TKRs and discuss the risks and rewards with them.

I'm also hoping that there are some other members that may have missed your post here and will share their experience with you. For anyone that did not see @ooshaleigh's first post here is the link – https://connect.mayoclinic.org/comment/711199/

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