Jittery feeling, toe twitching, involuntary leg movements and more

Posted by falconhawaii @falconhawaii, Aug 22, 2022

Hey, all.  I'm pretty relieved to see this message board.  I'm kind of out of options.  I'll try to keep things short, but I wanna be thorough.  I'm primarily making this post because I live in Japan now, and need advice, in whatever form it may come.  If you wanna skip the history and get straight to the heart of the matter, read the last 2 paragraphs.

First of all, I never considered myself necessarily an anxious person or high stress, but I'll admit that some of these symptoms are intensified or more frequent due to stress at times.  However, I'm pretty sure that even a decade ago, on a very rare occasion, I'd have Restless Leg Syndrome symptoms.

In December 2020, I had hernia surgery.  About a week after the surgery itself, and as tired as I was, I just couldn't get to sleep one night.  I couldn't help notice...my teeth were chattering.  Not heavily.  Barely perceptible, but it was more like I was trembling or something.  I learned to live with it.

Fast forward a few months into the pandemic, and a few sleepless nights returned.  We're talking awake for 24 hours+, super tired, but unable to sleep.  I had a few anxiety-caused sleepless nights in my youth, but this was different.  Like...heavy pressure on my body .  Went to the hospital, had blood/urine tests, brain CAT scan.  Doc said nothing looks wrong, though blood pressure, weight, and cholesterol are a bit high.  But the problem is all mental.  Tried to live with it...

Fast forward again a few more months, same problems, but now a heavier jittery feeling.  Like...having nothing but espresso and no food, and my left foot feeling a little tingly, almost like my bare feet "slipped" on carpet.  Saw a psychiatrist.  She put me on several medicines, one being Landsen.  They helped me sleep, but problems persist.  Tried again to live with it.

Then I developed...I'm not sure!  What's the difference between a spasm, a twitch, a tick, a tremor and a palpitation?  Just about to fall asleep...boom, leg kick.  Not all the time, but enough to not call it a one time deal.  Local psychiatrist put me on different meds, a beta blocker and a serotonin uptake inhibitor.  Didn't really fix the problem.  She assigned me a specialist at the big hospital, with a nerve retention test and brain MRI.  When the results came, he didn't really say anything was unusual, but didn't say I'm good either.  Maybe bad translation.  Bless the Dr.s heart, he has to deal with advanced Alzheimer's and ALS patients, but he seemed very dismissive of me, almost irritated or myopic about it, ultimately saying he doesn't know what it is, kind of like "What do you want me to do about it?" attitude.  Basically, he shrugged.  The kicking thing kind of went away...thought it happened rarely.

During work one day, in December of '21, I noticed my middle toes of my right foot twitching in my shoe.  It was happening kind of frequently when my foot was at rest, but didn't think much of it.
In early Spring of this year, I woke up with my middle, index, and thumb numb.  Maybe I was lying on it.  Strange at first, but then it started happening more, with the whole hand.  One day, it was the whole right arm.  Neurologist time...a different one than before.  This guy put me on Tarlige, ordered a neck MRI, more blood work, and some other Chinese herbal stuff that I didn't continue past 4 days.  A few weeks later, muscle twitches (like heartbeats) randomly happening everywhere, noticed at rest.  Back, shoulder, stomach, calve, thigh, toe, fingers, arm, buttocks.  That's when he mentioned it as a symptom of ALS, mentioning higher CK levels, although my numbness is not a part of that.  No lie, I had a lot of anxiety over this, and body trembling.  Eventually, after looking over the MRI results and other blood work, he says it's "unlikely to be ALS".  So...I've calmed down a bit.  The numbness in my fingers and arm also went away completely. Because of Covid here, I haven't been working all that much.  Doctor basically said my symptoms are from stress, that I'm "lacking purpose", and if I go home for a bit I'll probably recover.  I went home for a month.  I didn't recover.  In fact, I'm now pretty scared.

So we're in the now.  (It may or may not be related, but I had a lithotripsy procedure 3 times in the past 3 months to get rid of a peanut-M&M-sized kidney stone.  We knew about it for years, but just didn't have the time to get it taken care of.  The first 2 lithotripsies didn't do much, but the most recent one seems to really have worked this time, so I'm dealing with all the joys of that at present.)  Since most of the medical professionals I've encountered have been...mm...disappointing, Dr. Google has pretty much been how I've tried to figure out WTF is wrong with me, or how to curb symptoms.  Most of the top contenders for what I may have (ALS, MS, Parkinson's) don't fit the bill, as none mention a jittery or shaky feeling, and all are accompanied by symptoms I don't have.  Teeth are still chattering if I close my jaw just right, but it's not noticeable in daily life (again, more "trembling" than "chattering").  As I said at the top, a lot of these seem to be kind of like side-effects of extreme anxiety.  I know that my wife told me she can feel the "bumping" of my muscles when I was asleep a month ago, that worried me.  A few times in the past week, I've woken up with a heart-racing feeling, checked it as soon as I woke up; 91BPM.  Starting around a week ago, the toe-twitching has returned.  This time, with a very jittery foot when at rest.  This is now constant.  I involuntarily move my foot from time to time.  I almost always feel like I'm heavily caffeinated, even if I ingested none.  I do not drink alcohol, but do drink a fair amount of milk.  My thighs on both legs feel a bit sore, but this might be nothing.  I've been drinking plenty of fluids, and tried electrolyte-replenishing drinks with little effect.  Last night, a horrible impulse to move my leg happened a few times, I assume RLS.  The toe-twitching, once confined to my right foot middle/4th toe, now may be happening to my LEFT foot big toe now.  I'm having a terrible time getting to sleep, even with ZzzQuil or Landsen.  I don't know how else to call this feeling other than "very jittery", but the more frequent involuntary movements have me pretty scared. I know I seem to be getting worse...

I've been on Landsen, Tarlige, Lexapro, and tried homeopathic Hyland's Restless Legs PM, and Nerve Renew.  Please, if anyone has any suggestions, advice, references, or knows a neurologist that can be contacted, or someone even get close to identifying what it is I may have, please reply.

-Brandon

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How are you doing with this condition? Has anything changed? Is it the same, better, worse? Have you had any luck with diagnosing this?
I found my way here because I have involuntary toe twitching in my left foot. I am at a loss whether to see podiatrist, neurologist or MD. I am in Naples, FL right now and podiatrist here thinks it's threefold, 2 nerve entrapments in my ankle. , and scar tissue under my foot along the plantar plate. He has recommended a supplement Formula 303 to calm anxiety and muscle spasms and twitches and I do believe it has quieted down the movement. What is confusing is that I know these symptoms can be caused by a myriad of things. I am seeing a chinese massage therapist now. This all started during COVID when I was sitting on my recliner sofa with my legs up for months on end. Chinese MT said this is very bad way to sit as it compresses the lower spine and tightens the gluteal muscles which press on nerves going down the leg to the feet. As the MT worked on my spine I could feel a change in the way the tingling felt in my foot. I do think there is a connection.

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Toe twitching that kept me awake at night was the first symptom of my Pfizer vaccine injury. I subsequently developed sensory and motor polyneuropathy documented by EMG. My ANA titer increased 4-fold at the time my neurological symptoms were peaking, so the nerve damage was likely caused by an autoimmune reaction to the vaccine. I had not had an autoimmune problem before. The neuropathy is slowly improving and I'm much better now at 24 months.

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Hello Brandon (and others). First of all, I am so sorry to hear about your symptoms. You must be freaking out.

I share a lot of your symptoms, but not entirely. I am not worried about ALS at all because, from what I have read, by the time people have symptoms like this, they are further along in the disease. I have had symptoms for over two years now and they haven't changed very much, which tends to rule out ALS. Of course, this is is not a medical opinion and is just what I have read online, for what it's worth.

I sometimes worry about early Parkinson's because that disease can involve a slow and gradual increase in symptoms, most of which are not very dramatic at first. However, my neurologist says that I don't have Parkinson's disease. Unfortunately, it's one of those diseases that cannot be diagnosed until years later when the symptoms converge into a more obvious collection of symptoms. I don't even want to believe that I have Parkinson's disease because it is just too depressing to think about it. Also, if you are under 40, it is quite rare to get this disease. ALS is far more rare though. Parkinson's is the fastest growing neurological disease out there.

MS is easier to rule out if you have had a brain MRI in not all, but most cases. Some doctors will jump hastily to an anxiety diagnosis quickly unless you truly have a culmination of symptoms that are leaping out at them. That is what a lot of people have said in the Facebook "Internal Vibrations/Sleep Tremors" group, as well as the "Internal Tremors" group.

I also get the occasional jerking limb just as I am drifting off to sleep, like you. Those are called hypnic jerks and they are a separate condition. I believe hypnic jerking also has a facebook group and those people sometimes take medications like Diamox to control it when it truly interferes with sleep . However, please don't quote me on this.

In my case, I have not had finger twitches lately, but for a while a year ago, my pinky would twitch randomly and it was freaking me out. This is common in the BFS group and those people don't generally have any worse neurological disease (BFS is harmless, supposedly). My body does tremor or vibrate when I am asleep, but it doesn't happen once I am completely awake and conscious. The hypnic jerks are not the same as the sleep vibrations though -- -and that type of tremoring is different from a Parkinson's or MS type of tremoring because it is not visible at all. It is like a kind of "internal tremor." Is that what you experience?

Mayo Clinic has a program called Central Sensitization Syndrome (CSS) which is popular with people who have experienced nervous system damage from covid or the vaccine. However, my symptoms did not start as a result of covid or the vaccine and it sounds like yours didn't either.

Please feel free to get in touch with me if you'd like to talk more about it. Best of luck! I wish you a fully recovery.

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How about low levels of Vit B12???

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@scotiagirl

Hi Brandon, I really hate when doctors imply that anxiety may be the root of a neurological issue when they can't name the condition. It throws it back on the patient that they may somehow be at fault and if you could get the anxiety under control it would go away - here take an antidepressant and go away. They wouldn't say that to a person with Parkinson's or MS, recognized conditions, but seem to feel it's okay to say it when they simply don't know what it is. It makes you second guess yourself. That's unfair and poor medicine.
Now it's true that some conditions can worsen if the person is nervous, Essential Tremor, for instance. I developed symptoms very similar to yours after receiving the Covid vaccine and got little assistance from doctors. I was not anxious or depressed before the symptoms but may have appeared as such after the fact because I was worried about what happening to me and rightly so. Anti-depressants and muscle relaxants did nothing and in fact some of the SSRI's made the fasciculations (the muscle twitching) worse.
I had to go online and find what condition seemed the most similar to what I was experiencing. For me, that was Benign Fascicular Syndrome. I'm not saying that's what you have but you can look it up. The medical world seems to know very little about what causes it, so no cure, and there doesn't seem to be any agreed upon treatment plan, if any. It is a nightmare to have to deal with, with no treatment to ease it. "Benign" is a bit of an insult to anyone who has been tormented by it. Little or no research is being done on this syndrome because, yes, there are more serious conditions out there deserving research.
We are on our own to find what works. I started taking as many vitamins and supplements as I could that are related to nerve health. I'm trying to give my body a fighting chance to heal and hoping, if in my case it was related to an immune reaction to the vaccine, that it may run its course. I hope you find what works for you.

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Had you ever been on an SSRI before being diagnosed with BFS? They say I have that as well and it's been nearly a year. Some weeks are better than others, but I feel like stress / anxiety does contribute to it. Meditation I believe helps, but certainly doesn't knock it out.

What SSRI did they put you on?

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Hi Brandon!

First of all I’m very sorry you are going through all of this I’m sure it feels like a rollercoaster and you just want answers. Keep fighting for answers because they are worth it. It’s awesome you are going to different doctor’s and trying different treatments to see if they work I’m glad you are advocating for yourself it sounds like! Advocating for yourself through this journey is one of the most important things you can do for yourself.

So I’ll start off by saying of course I’m not a doctor so none of this is a recommendation but it’s my experience. I was diagnosed with mis-diagnose with Ankylosing Spondylitis in 2020 and prior I had doctors saying “have you seen a therapist”….which was tiring.. I applied for the Mayo Clinic in October 2020 and ended up going early 2021 and was newly diagnosed correctly with Fibromyalgia, Central Sensitization Syndrome, and Chronic Fatigue.

Stress is a main contributor to what started my chronic pain but I had a car accident in 2020 that shifted my pain from just my low back and hips to full body pain and more symptoms.

In 2022 I had an injury that ended up resulting in a concussion and it doubled my pain levels and gave me more body twitching, jaw pain, eye pain, etc. I have headaches which turn to migraines easily, I have head to toe pain, I have body twitching, my feet burn, and more. I haven’t been diagnosed with anything else new yet but I also haven’t been to Mayo Clinic again since my injury happened in 2022 so I’m not sure if I have any new issues.

If I were in your position I would start looking into YouTube videos of fibromyalgia and central sensitization syndrome first (all those google definitions get too jumbled I think) then chronic fatigue and see if any of those align with what you’re feeling and going through! If it does then maybe bring the condition up to your doctor and definitely advocate why you think it could be that condition.

Also my body personally hates dairy and any processed food or sugar. It sucks and I have to get back to healthy eating but I used to be in the routine of it and I could definitely feel a difference with more energy!

I hope that helps in any way and I wish the best of luck for your health journey you got this!

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Have you tried daily magnesium glycinate? Your symptoms are similar to those I had due to low magnesium.

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Although not all of your symptoms align, I would suggest taking a look at Stiff Person Syndrome. I have it myself and it is a spectrum disorder. There is a jerking type, which I do not have. I present as more classical, although all labs, MRIs, X-Rays and EMGs were normal. I concur with possible fasciculation syndromes. Also maybe Complex Regional Pain Syndrome. I hope this helps and please keep researching.

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Do you exercise? You’re depending on a lot of meds to relieve you of your symptoms without success it appear thus far. I too was developing RLS type symptoms and found they were related to lack of muscle use. I now stretch before I go to bed as well as when I awake. My leg issues have gone and do return if I don’t follow my HEP.

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@falconhawaii

Maybe I'm going crazy. My symptoms seem to be getting worse. Going to sleep is very difficult without some kind of sleep aid, and if I wake up during the night to pee or because I left an alarm to early, it's impssible to go back to sleep. This morning it happened. The sensation was a lot like a "carpet burn" type of tingly feeling. I seem to be experiencing sudden movements even when not trying to falling asleep now.

@scotiagirl It does seem like I have many of the symptoms. No tongue twitching, which to me was more of a sign of ALS. But I also seem to be having heartbeat-like twitching in my mid-torso as well as buttocks. Not sure of BLS or ALS would be in those areas.
@pamelaz My mom said it might be the vaccine, too, but I'm having a hard time getting on that bandwagon. I only got up to the 2nd one. I'm trying to think if I had any facilitations before I got the vax...
@wizer I do believe I have RLS, but the uncontrollable need to move sensation is a bit more uncommon, and only happens to me a few times a month. Socks give me involuntary movements during the day, but I'll try it when I have the sensations next time.
@indianajj I'll ask my psychiatrist (since I was dismissed by the neurologist, who she recommended and seems to be the only one taking me seriously) about Quinine if I can get an appointment later today. We don't have Kroger in Japan, but I can at least get Tonic Water. I'll try it, thanks.

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I know it’s been 1 year since your post @falconhawaii
but thought I would comment. By coincidence, I’m also based in Japan now and have experienced similar BFS symptoms as you described in your message.
The calf twitches started shortly after arriving in Singapore on a business trip back in April/2023. I had experienced mild twitching and cramps in my calves in the past when dehydrated, pretty common stuff. But this time was different — the night after arriving in Singapore was rough, soon after going to bed, both calves started twitching uncontrollably, and soon the painful cramps came. This went on all night, nearly impossible to sleep for more than 10-15 minutes at a time.
The twitches went on 24 hours a day and the night cramps continued. As I was scheduled to be in SG for 2 weeks, on the 4th day after very little sleep and feeling increasingly anxious, I visited a neurologist there. The moment he saw the rapid twitching in my calves he observed that there may be neurological issues and I would need the standard nerve tests done.
I decided to wait until I returned to Tokyos to get them done.
The short version is that 3 weeks later I had a variety of standard nerve tests done by a neurologist. Everything came out “normal”, while the neurologist observed the constant twitching he concluded after the tests that the twitches were not related to a neurological condition.
I visited “ Google guru”for answers and as per advice from many in the chat groups, made a conscious decision not to go down the ALS/MS rabbit hole. I started to reduce and evaluate eliminate caffeine from my diet, very tough as a coffee lover. And then reduced alcohol consumption to next to zero. This seems to decrease the twitching significantly although still there 24/7, less night cramps.
One thing is clear — for me at least, the calf twitches are much heavier when I am stressed, and lacking sleep. Add in too much caffeine during the day and a glass of wine or two and I know I have a very rough night ahead.
I’ve accepted that BFS may never fully go away, and instead of beating myself up about why it appeared in the first place, I’ve decided to do my best to cope with it.

Sleeping pills, neuro blockers (epilepsy drugs), etc…do help with sleep but I’m weary of the possibility of addiction so I’m resisting taking these drugs for more than 2-3 times a week.

It’s amazing to see how many people are dealing with BFS around the world and yet there is no effective treatment yet. Hopefully there is a break thru one day soon…for now, I try not to think about it and in turn, do everything I can to reduce the risk thru diet and overall wellness. Hope this helps!

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