Is it just me? I'm having terrible side effects from chemo.

Posted by kayanonsen @kayanonsen, Jan 15, 2024

I just want to reach out to you all because I am wretched after my first and second chemo treatment (tchp for Invasive Ductal Carcinoma). I never see this kind of misery on any posts anywhere. First treatment, my vagina had me in agony with itching. Second treatment and I have a big rash on my backside, very painful and itchy. And my hands have little cuts and nicks because my skin is so thin now I guess. Am I the only one?
Kay

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Chemo had me asking myself how far I would go to stay alive. Infusion 1: Nobody told me that my digestive tract would shut down; they just told me to eat small amounts multiple times a day, but not what to eat; so I developed a painful bowel obstruction. After that I only ate foods that practically walk through on their own, mostly fruit with cottage cheese, veggies, and soup. I dropped from 125 to 112 pounds. Infusion 2: I was being infused with twice as much steroids as I could tolerate. I went through 72 hours of cold sweats after my first 2 infusions; the chemo and palliative care departments insisted it was depression, which is nonsense and about like calling a woman hysterical. Infusion 3: The steroids were cut by half by the third infusion, and the post-infusion nightmare did not occur again. But nobody told me that the docetaxel infusion was in a solution of ethanol. I couldn't even walk out on my own steam after an infusion. I didn't know what was happening to me until I Googled "chemo" and "drunk." A nurse even asked me once if I "really" needed a wheelchair. Yes, I really needed a wheelchair because I was drunk as a skunk. It's a good thing my husband always drove me to appointments.

While the chemo dept. always says, "everyone is different," the worst side effects I had were well known and could have been avoided. I'm pretty sure most humans react the same way when being infused with ethanol. "I'd like some poison with my poison, please," said nobody ever. Alcohol is a Class 1 carcinogen, in the same category as cigarettes, and I had not had a drink in 13 years.

If I had to do chemo again in the future, God forbid, I think it would go much more smoothly; assuming I agreed to do it again. But this learn-as-you-go business is a huge drag. Ironically, oncologists who get breast cancer are shocked -- shocked! -- by the cancer patient experience. Were they listening to their patients at all? Did they not know how much their patients were suffering? They are surprised that their concerns are casually blown off. Then they write a book or start a Youtube channel about their own experiences because they're experts with a story to monetize!

I also had chemo brain fog. I have a master's degree in English, as well as a J.D., but I was unable to read or spell as my I.Q. temporarily dropped about 40 points. I got slight neuropathy in my toes. I had dizzy spells and fainted a few times. I had a slight but persistent nasal drip after my nose hair fell out with the rest of my hair. Chemo dried out my skin, which, despite constantly drinking water, has only started to plump back up and stop shedding 6 weeks after the last chemo cycle ended. Black clothes were out until the shedding stopped.

Hang in there. I had Invasive Ductal Carcinoma, too, and recovered my immune system and energy one month after the end of the last chemo cycle. I'm 63 years old.

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@gemjaynes I'm going through the same frustrations right now. Mainly, why can't they listen to the patient. I find myself wishing that the oncologist and his staff would get cancer too and have to deal with all the side effects that I'm dealing with and having their concerns ignored as if they're imagining them. A lot of sleepless nights can stir up a lot of anger, and I don't want to be angry all the time. I just want to get through this, be done with chemo and be somewhat healthy again. I feel like my "innards" are never going to the same again. This is my second go-round with breast cancer and the first time wasn't nearly this bad.

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I had chemo 19 years ago and am receiving it again (both for breast cancer.) Seems like I sailed through it last time around and did fine the first few sessions this time around, but they changed something last time and I've been sick since two days after. It's now 4 days after. Skin all broken out (no itching so far thank God) but tired, severe bowel problems, no energy at all...I expected tired but not the rest. No one will listen to me and I'm ready to tell them what to do with their chemo. If they can't do something about the side effects I'm going to quit chemo as living like this is not living. It's existing. Miserably. Just needed to rant I guess as I'm not sure anyone can solve this. Thank you for reading my post. Sorry about the repetition....didn't remember I posted already.

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I had chemo 19 years ago and am receiving it again (both for breast cancer.) Seems like I sailed through it last time around and did fine the first few sessions this time around, but they changed something last time and I've been sick since two days after. It's now 4 days after. Skin all broken out (no itching so far thank God) but tired, severe bowel problems, no energy at all...I expected tired but not the rest. No one will listen to me and I'm ready to tell them what to do with their chemo. If they can't do something about the side effects I'm going to quit chemo as living like this is not living. It's existing. Miserably. Just needed to rant I guess as I'm not sure anyone can solve this. Thank you for reading my post. Sorry about the repetition....didn't remember I posted already.

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@kletrinka7
HELLO DEAREST SONORITY SISTER OF A DIFFERENT KIND. SORRY TO HEAR OF SIDE EFFECTS. I AM NOW 71. CHEMO NOV 2021-JAN 2022, BREAST CANCER. I JUST TURNED 67, AND QUARANTINE JUST LIFTED WHEN MY SUSPICIONS WERE CONFIRMED. MY BF SINCE AGE 15, WAS 42 WITH BREAST CANCER. HER DAUGHTER SAME AS WAS DIAGNOSED A YEAR AFTER I WAS. ANSWERING NON MEDICALLY. I MENTIONED TO BF, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOU DID SO WELL WITH CHEMO. SHE SAID THE 3-LETTER WORD, AGE. WHOA. YOUR SIDE EFFECTS MAY HAVE TO BE PART AGE. PLZ TALK TO THE ONCOLOGIST AND YOUR SENORITY FAMILY. I WAS THANKFUL MY RN ASKED, ANY TINGLING IN LIMBS? YES, I AM CAN TOUGH IT OUT, I AM IN IT TO WIN IT, NOT SABOTAGE. RN IMMEDIATELY STOPPED TREATMENT, NOTIFIED DR. HE., OF COURSE, SAID HE ASKED. MAYBE AT THE START, BUT NOT AFTER. MY ANSWERS STARTED WITH RN QUESTIONS. YOU MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR FAVORITE ONCOLOGIST RN AND SHARE YOU THOUGHTS. SICK, TIRED, BOWELS I HAD MEDS. PLEASE, YOU ARE IN IT TO WIN IT. START TALKING IF THEY DON'T LISTEN, SAY YOU WILL BE SEEKING SECOND OPTIONS,ETC. THEY WILL LISTEN. MY POSITIVE VIBES AND HEALING PRAYERS GOING YOU WAY. FYI, I HAD MAYBE 2-3 DAYS WELL ENOUGH TO FAKE IT THEN C DAY, AKA SPA DA AKD CURE DAY AKA CHEMO.

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@gemjaynes I'm going through the same frustrations right now. Mainly, why can't they listen to the patient. I find myself wishing that the oncologist and his staff would get cancer too and have to deal with all the side effects that I'm dealing with and having their concerns ignored as if they're imagining them. A lot of sleepless nights can stir up a lot of anger, and I don't want to be angry all the time. I just want to get through this, be done with chemo and be somewhat healthy again. I feel like my "innards" are never going to the same again. This is my second go-round with breast cancer and the first time wasn't nearly this bad.

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@kletrinka7

DEAREST SENORITY SISTER. FIGHT FIGHT UNTIL FLIGHT. WE ARE LIKE CARS. MINOR TURN UPS, MAJOR TUNE UPS AND OVERHAULS. FIGHT FIGHT UNTIL FLIGHT. DEPENDING ON AGE AND TYPE OF INSURANCE. RATINGS MATTER WITH HOW THEY GET PAID. PLEASE, YOU ARE A WARRIOR, VIKING AND EXCELLENT COMMUNICATOR. PLEASE TALK TO RNS, DRS, AND TO SORORITY FAMILY. THERE ARE LOCAL SUPPORT GROUPS THAT CAN HELP YOU. PLEASE YOU DECIDED TO FIGHT FIGHT UNTIL FLIGHT WITH SECOND DIAGNOSIS. EXPRESS TO STAFF ABOUT YOUR CONCERNS. WE HAVE A LIFETIME TO WORK ON OUR INNARDS AFTER TREATMENT. SENDING YOU MY PRAYERS AND POSITIVE VIBES.YOU ARE A VIKING WARRIOR. GOD SPEED HEALING

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DEAREST SORORITY SISTER. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. FEEL OUR LOVE AND SUPPORT. YOU ARE A WARRIOR. PLEASE TALK TO DRS ABOUT SIDE EFFECTS. GOD SPEED, HEALING AND POSITIVE HEALING VIBES.

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I'm trying. They're not very good listeners. But I'll keep trying.

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I had a rash during radiation and my doctor prescribed a powder that immediately stopped the itching and pain. It is Pride Medicated Body Powder.

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@kletrinka7
HELLO DEAREST SONORITY SISTER OF A DIFFERENT KIND. SORRY TO HEAR OF SIDE EFFECTS. I AM NOW 71. CHEMO NOV 2021-JAN 2022, BREAST CANCER. I JUST TURNED 67, AND QUARANTINE JUST LIFTED WHEN MY SUSPICIONS WERE CONFIRMED. MY BF SINCE AGE 15, WAS 42 WITH BREAST CANCER. HER DAUGHTER SAME AS WAS DIAGNOSED A YEAR AFTER I WAS. ANSWERING NON MEDICALLY. I MENTIONED TO BF, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOU DID SO WELL WITH CHEMO. SHE SAID THE 3-LETTER WORD, AGE. WHOA. YOUR SIDE EFFECTS MAY HAVE TO BE PART AGE. PLZ TALK TO THE ONCOLOGIST AND YOUR SENORITY FAMILY. I WAS THANKFUL MY RN ASKED, ANY TINGLING IN LIMBS? YES, I AM CAN TOUGH IT OUT, I AM IN IT TO WIN IT, NOT SABOTAGE. RN IMMEDIATELY STOPPED TREATMENT, NOTIFIED DR. HE., OF COURSE, SAID HE ASKED. MAYBE AT THE START, BUT NOT AFTER. MY ANSWERS STARTED WITH RN QUESTIONS. YOU MAY WANT TO SPEAK TO YOUR FAVORITE ONCOLOGIST RN AND SHARE YOU THOUGHTS. SICK, TIRED, BOWELS I HAD MEDS. PLEASE, YOU ARE IN IT TO WIN IT. START TALKING IF THEY DON'T LISTEN, SAY YOU WILL BE SEEKING SECOND OPTIONS,ETC. THEY WILL LISTEN. MY POSITIVE VIBES AND HEALING PRAYERS GOING YOU WAY. FYI, I HAD MAYBE 2-3 DAYS WELL ENOUGH TO FAKE IT THEN C DAY, AKA SPA DA AKD CURE DAY AKA CHEMO.

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@medranocm I just came to the same conclusions after another night of getting off and on sleep. I have a short term break coming soon and will try to be patient till it's here, see how much life improves during that break to allow me the courage to go back on chemo after the break. I know there are plans to change what drugs I'll be getting....somewhat vague on that...even have my husband there listening (he doesn't have chemo brain) and it never seems clear what the plans are. But I'm not giving up...it's winter here with cold temps and snow and hard to push myself outside to even walk a little ... I was walking 2 miles- sometimes 3 per day for years before cancer knocked me down again this time. Fresh air always makes everything feel better. Thank you.

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@medranocm I just came to the same conclusions after another night of getting off and on sleep. I have a short term break coming soon and will try to be patient till it's here, see how much life improves during that break to allow me the courage to go back on chemo after the break. I know there are plans to change what drugs I'll be getting....somewhat vague on that...even have my husband there listening (he doesn't have chemo brain) and it never seems clear what the plans are. But I'm not giving up...it's winter here with cold temps and snow and hard to push myself outside to even walk a little ... I was walking 2 miles- sometimes 3 per day for years before cancer knocked me down again this time. Fresh air always makes everything feel better. Thank you.

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@kletrinka7 My oncologist always used to make it sound like I was the only one getting side effects.
I started recording every single appointment with them. That way I can go back and re-listen as many times as I need to and then I can call them on something when they make a contradictory comment.

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@medranocm I just came to the same conclusions after another night of getting off and on sleep. I have a short term break coming soon and will try to be patient till it's here, see how much life improves during that break to allow me the courage to go back on chemo after the break. I know there are plans to change what drugs I'll be getting....somewhat vague on that...even have my husband there listening (he doesn't have chemo brain) and it never seems clear what the plans are. But I'm not giving up...it's winter here with cold temps and snow and hard to push myself outside to even walk a little ... I was walking 2 miles- sometimes 3 per day for years before cancer knocked me down again this time. Fresh air always makes everything feel better. Thank you.

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@kletrinka7 Fresh air does indeed makes everything feel better. And push yourself to walk.

I had 4 rounds of chemo, which was supposed to be 2 hrs each but became 6 hrs, due to an allergic reaction to the meds. The process was slow and painful, hated be at sessions and alone.
I found thru trial and error how to survive chemo treatments. I took daily probiotics, water with electrolytes, magnesium, vitamin B12 as I could not drink coffee. I struggled daily with sleep, fatigue, moodiness and whatever else chemo threw at me.
I learned after chemo, I could have done more. Chemo effects your stamina and muscle loss, another male breast cancer survivor suggested, drinking Best Aminos, before and after chemo. It reduces muscle loss.
He also said, I should have drank sometime type of tea at night for sleep. I now drink chamomile tea to counter the effects of Tamoxifen. During the daytime, drink green tea, vs coffee.
I also went to all my appointments alone. I learned that non Mayo providers, love to scare you into doing additional chemo treatments, pushing for a port or worse, making you think you are worse than you really are. Because this is how they make money, on wasteful procedures.

I had my breast cancer surgery at Mayo in MN but chemo locally near home in NW Indiana.

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