I want to know more about TENS stimulation

Posted by cb3 @cb3, Apr 29 7:37am

TENS means transcutaneous electric nerve stimulation. "A transcutaneous electrical nerve stimulator (TENS) sends electrical pulses through the skin to start your body's own pain killers. The electrical pulses can release endorphins and other substances to stop pain signals in the brain. TENS can reduce pain."

This sounds good but I am still at the level of curiosity coupled with fear. Can TENS cause brain damage? And what's this about too much B6 causing more damage? I don't see how we can group everybody's metabolic systems into one clump. Can this stimulator cure PN? How long does the pain level stay at bay? How many treatments do you need and how often? I've seen the machines at Amazon. Would a neurologist have them in their office? Will this stimulator work on lumbar multilevel degenerative disc disease?

We do not have a neurologist in this whole county. And I'm not keen on traveling long distances to see one. And I just learned our Podiatrist is leaving so I need to find the new one who is replacing him. Your support is greatly accepted at all levels. Thanks. CB

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A true tens unit is bought through your doctor. Insurance covers it and you are taught how to use it correctly. I had mRsa bacterial spinal meningitis tens units feel like they burn my nerves in 2002 is when my neuropathy started. It does not cure neuropathy a true tens unit is expensive. I have two I got from my orthopedic surgeon. Nothing cures neuropathy we are taught in anatomy and physiology in college that nerves do not regenerate. As an RN working for a neuromuscular neurologist that is the first thing he said to his patients. I appreciated that he was up front and told his patients to save their money. He told them if all the scams worked we would have been healed a long time ago. I was doing a new continuing education credits that said neuropathy has became more common than MS. There is no cure for MS. Mine I loose the axons and short fibers and the nerve dies off.
What does make a difference is diet. Caffeine stimulates the nerves making them more excitable the more pain,
sugar stimulates the nerves. I have noticed pasta affects mine. Keep a diary document what you are and if you are in pain. Our bread in the US is cancer causing it can’t be sold in the European Union. I buy Ezekiel bread out of the frozen section. I can’t eat red meat most people with neuropathy have gastroparsis (slow digestion) red meat hear to diagest. I eat wild caught fish, free range, antibiotics free chicken and turkey. If I eat breaded fish it hurts.

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I had neuropathy in my right arm. My fingers were numb and my arm would basically go dead every time I threw a baseball or lifted heavy weights. It turned out I had thoracic outlet syndrome. I had the surgery for it which removed my top rib and cut out my outer scalene muscle on April 8th. My neuropathy is gone. So some types of neuropathy can be cured I guess. I still have moderate neuropathy in my feet and believe it is due to the severe spinal stenosis in my lumbar spine. I’m probably going to have a minor decompression surgery in a few months to see if it helps. It makes sense that I have multiple bone spurs rubbing and compressing nerves in my lower back, and my numb feet started in conjunction with the stenosis a couple of years ago. I think it’s time to update those anatomy and physiology books! Then again, doctors still don’t believe that my tos surgery also cured my brain fog. As if entrapped blood vessels and arteries that supply blood to your brain wouldn’t help brain fog when alleviated. That’s what I love about science. It keeps changing.

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I had neuropathy in my right arm. My fingers were numb and my arm would basically go dead every time I threw a baseball or lifted heavy weights. It turned out I had thoracic outlet syndrome. I had the surgery for it which removed my top rib and cut out my outer scalene muscle on April 8th. My neuropathy is gone. So some types of neuropathy can be cured I guess. I still have moderate neuropathy in my feet and believe it is due to the severe spinal stenosis in my lumbar spine. I’m probably going to have a minor decompression surgery in a few months to see if it helps. It makes sense that I have multiple bone spurs rubbing and compressing nerves in my lower back, and my numb feet started in conjunction with the stenosis a couple of years ago. I think it’s time to update those anatomy and physiology books! Then again, doctors still don’t believe that my tos surgery also cured my brain fog. As if entrapped blood vessels and arteries that supply blood to your brain wouldn’t help brain fog when alleviated. That’s what I love about science. It keeps changing.

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That was probably caused by nerve compression is what it sounds like. Mine first started when I got mrsa bacterial spinal meningitis. There is not one person truly cured of neuropathy. I worked as a RN. for a neuromuscular neurologist he told patients up front you can’t be cured from neuropathy. There are other doctors that say the same thing. Neuropathy caused by nerve compression is different. Which is what you had. When they released the nerve it went away. Luckily you didn’t have permanent nerve damage. Were you ever tested for small fiber neuropathy?
True neuropathy is caused by diabetes, autoimmune diseases, idiopathic, toxins.
https://www.foundationforpn.org/causes/

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I have had neuropathy since 2002. It’s now in my heart. There are a ton of scams. Other people on this website have tried it not covered by insurance out 1,000”s of dollars. I am no longer interested in scams. IVIG works I am having good luck with it.
It helps by balance, dizziness and it has been helping my cardiac autonomic neuropathy. As an RN I am going off treatments known to work. You get tired of being experimented on.
https://www.foundationforpn.org/treatments/

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I am tired of the scams. Had mine since 2002 when I ended up with mrsa bacterial spinal meningitis.
I was diagnosed with autoimmune severe axonal sensorimotor dysautonomia peripheral polyneuropathy
Small fiber neuropathy
Cardiac autonomic neuropathy
Mine is caused by
Lupus sojourns Hashimotos and mixed connective tissue disease

You figure out how to cure my autoimmune diseases that cause neuropathy we’ll discuss it. Until then I am feed up with scams. People on this website spent a lot of out of pocket and it’s normally not covered by insurance. I am using IVIG infusions.. it treats neuropathy and lupus.

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That was probably caused by nerve compression is what it sounds like. Mine first started when I got mrsa bacterial spinal meningitis. There is not one person truly cured of neuropathy. I worked as a RN. for a neuromuscular neurologist he told patients up front you can’t be cured from neuropathy. There are other doctors that say the same thing. Neuropathy caused by nerve compression is different. Which is what you had. When they released the nerve it went away. Luckily you didn’t have permanent nerve damage. Were you ever tested for small fiber neuropathy?
True neuropathy is caused by diabetes, autoimmune diseases, idiopathic, toxins.
https://www.foundationforpn.org/causes/

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I went through an EMG/NCV test at U of Chicago hospital by an experienced neurologist who diagnosed me with idiopathic sensory axonal polyneuropathy. So does that mean it isn’t true neuropathy because it was brought on by compressed nerves? I was also tested for autoimmune, toxins, and diabetes. All were negative. I agree most neuropathy can’t be cured. However I have also heard doctors tell patients that diabetes can’t be cured, and I know a lot of people who have reversed that. I still believe the neuropathy in my feet can be solved if I can get it done soon. The problem with me is I’m back on the baseball field still crushing my severe spinal stenosis in my lower back a couple of times a week masking the pain with ibuprofen. A true addict! If compressed nerves aren’t considered neuropathy, then my neurologist shouldn’t have gave me that diagnosis. Although my feet and ankles are still slightly numb but not painful.

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I went through an EMG/NCV test at U of Chicago hospital by an experienced neurologist who diagnosed me with idiopathic sensory axonal polyneuropathy. So does that mean it isn’t true neuropathy because it was brought on by compressed nerves? I was also tested for autoimmune, toxins, and diabetes. All were negative. I agree most neuropathy can’t be cured. However I have also heard doctors tell patients that diabetes can’t be cured, and I know a lot of people who have reversed that. I still believe the neuropathy in my feet can be solved if I can get it done soon. The problem with me is I’m back on the baseball field still crushing my severe spinal stenosis in my lower back a couple of times a week masking the pain with ibuprofen. A true addict! If compressed nerves aren’t considered neuropathy, then my neurologist shouldn’t have gave me that diagnosis. Although my feet and ankles are still slightly numb but not painful.

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You can test positive my a compressed nerve. My emg repeated when I had sciatic nerve compression in my back showed radiculopathy. After my laminectomy the emg/nct showed back the severe axonal sensorimotor dysautonomia peripheral polyneuropathy. Nerve compression can give a false reading. I hope you can understand this it is kinda in depth. You might look at the picture of a normal nerve to see where the body of the nerve and what they are talking about here. Bottom line emg can give a false reading on a nerve damage based on how the nerve is damaged allows regeneration or permanent damage. Like you mentioned ealieryou have spinal stenosis how long has it been going on? It determines the damage. I get my nerves burned on the SI joints. It does not affect the cell body so they grow back in two years. Since my mRsa bacterial spinal meningitis damage my nerves to begin with there is no recovery because mine initially started in the brain leaving me with short term memory loss, seizures and severe migraines. That’s when my neuropathy started was the antibiotics they had to use caused the neuropathy 3 months IV @24/7 then three months of pills. I had to take phenergran to hold down the pills. Mine turned into autoimmune lupus sojourns Hashimotos and connective tissue disease all cause neuropathy. I also found out I have spinal bifida which doesn’t help. There are lot of things that can cause neuropathy. Some symptoms temporary until nerve compression removed and how much permanent damage if any.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2504120/

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Hi, happy to answer any questions you might have. I have a tens unit that accommodates four pads on two separate channels so yes, you can use them in multiple locations at the same time and when I apply them in the right positions and adjust the intensity levels to what’s tolerable, I find I get instant relief, particularly in my back. Yes, you can travel with it and conceal the wires and the controlling unit in your clothing. On occasion I’ve even slept with it on all night. Hope you find this information useful and are able to find the same level of relief that I did. You just have to experiment a bit. I do keep an extra supply of pads and batteries on hand because I use it a lot.
Good luck.

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Hello, Could you say what condition you are using this for — diagnosis or area of pain? Thanks so much, and very happy to to know you’ve found relief for your pain,

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I was diagnosed with Spondylolisthesis, A spinal disorder in which a bone (vertebra) slips forward onto the bone below it.
If the vertebra slips too far, it may press on nerves and cause severe back pain or nerve crowding that produces leg pain or numbness.
So I use the tens unit on my lower back. Instant relief in most cases.

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I bought a TENS unit from Oxiline. I use it several times a week and it may help some. R-ALA helps, I think. Cutting sugars out of my diet probably helps the most. Exercise and walking are good. I’ve tried a lot of “cures.”

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Hi, I have a tens machine that came with slippers to hook up to little device that turns it on.I have idiopathic polyneuropathy. I know that this device has worked keeping condition worsening. Yes exercise and nutrition is important. I try to swim everyday and go to gym 2 times a week. I am on 1200 mg of R Alpha lipoic Acid. No idea if this helps, I like to think it does because it is $$$ expensive. I have had this condition for 10 yrs and I am 82 Best wishes to all. I have given up on neurologists, nothing much they can do, pray for a cure!

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