How Long on Orgovyx

Posted by rnpalarino1 @rnpalarino1, 2 days ago

Hello All:
I am asking for members to tell me how long they have been on Orgovyx. My prostate was removed (Gleason score of 9) and two years after removal my PSA numbers began to rise to .9. Scan did not detect any cancer. Oncologist put me on Orgovyx because I cannot have radiation. PSA went back to < .01. Then I went off it for about 6 months and my PSA went back up to .14. My oncologist told me to go back on Orgovyx. I want to know of others on this forum who have had similar experiences and how many times they have gone on and off Orgovyx. Merry Christmas!

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@jeffmarc
Jeff ~~~ Been dealing with this crappola for 30+ years. Rad P followed by Salvage Radiation a year later.
PSA stayed low for a long time. Started ADT approx 3 years ago.
Lupron sucks. I've had 3 PSMA scans (the last was when my PSA was 32) all showing no signs of cancer.
Nubeqa a Orgovyx started March of this year.

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@denkea
Rereading your original comment, I see that you’ve only been on Nubeqa 1 month, and have probably had a PSMA PET scan recently, and it showed nothing.

I’m sitting here watching football and reading these in between plays and I am missing stuff. Sorry about that.

If your PSA went down from 32 to .4 in one month it sounds like you’re in great shape. Your next test will probably be undetectable. As I’ve mentioned, I’m 25 months undetectable with those two drugs. I was on abiraterone for 2 1/2 years before, and was only undetectable one month. When I stopped they found and zapped a metastasis on my spine and one month later I went undetectable. Found it in my first PSMA pet scan. Nubeqa Works really great, I know a lot of people on it and they are all doing well. The only people I know that have had problems with it, have stopped, taking it and tried starting again, and it has not been as successful for some of them.

You could get two or three years out of your current treatment before you have to worry about the next step.

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@denkea
Rereading your original comment, I see that you’ve only been on Nubeqa 1 month, and have probably had a PSMA PET scan recently, and it showed nothing.

I’m sitting here watching football and reading these in between plays and I am missing stuff. Sorry about that.

If your PSA went down from 32 to .4 in one month it sounds like you’re in great shape. Your next test will probably be undetectable. As I’ve mentioned, I’m 25 months undetectable with those two drugs. I was on abiraterone for 2 1/2 years before, and was only undetectable one month. When I stopped they found and zapped a metastasis on my spine and one month later I went undetectable. Found it in my first PSMA pet scan. Nubeqa Works really great, I know a lot of people on it and they are all doing well. The only people I know that have had problems with it, have stopped, taking it and tried starting again, and it has not been as successful for some of them.

You could get two or three years out of your current treatment before you have to worry about the next step.

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@jeffmarc
Jeff, I've had 3 PSMA pet scans. One when my PSA was 22. The second when it was 12 and the 3rd when it was 32. All showed no sign of cancer.
I've been on Nubeqa and Orgovyx for 9 months now.

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@jeffmarc
Jeff, I've had 3 PSMA pet scans. One when my PSA was 22. The second when it was 12 and the 3rd when it was 32. All showed no sign of cancer.
I've been on Nubeqa and Orgovyx for 9 months now.

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@denkea
You said above “one month on Orgovyx and Nubeqa and It went down to .4.”

Has it gone down further since or has it stayed right at that level?

Just interested to know, with somebody who’s had it for so long, what’s going on?

At one of the ancan.org weekly advanced prostate cancer meetings somebody came in who had his cancer come back after 30 years, had a Gleason nine, and one treatment got him 30 years. It goes dormant for some people. Really interesting results.

You didn’t mention how long ago you had surgery and radiation. Were you on active surveillance for a long time? My brother was on it for about six years before his cancer finally needed treatment.

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@denkea
You said above “one month on Orgovyx and Nubeqa and It went down to .4.”

Has it gone down further since or has it stayed right at that level?

Just interested to know, with somebody who’s had it for so long, what’s going on?

At one of the ancan.org weekly advanced prostate cancer meetings somebody came in who had his cancer come back after 30 years, had a Gleason nine, and one treatment got him 30 years. It goes dormant for some people. Really interesting results.

You didn’t mention how long ago you had surgery and radiation. Were you on active surveillance for a long time? My brother was on it for about six years before his cancer finally needed treatment.

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@jeffmarc
Hi Jeff. I've had 4 PSA tests since March 2025. It's been virtually undetectable. < 0.1
Next test is in January 2026.
I was 48 yo when I had my Rad Pro followed by salvage radiation a year later.

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@jeffmarc
Hi Jeff. I've had 4 PSA tests since March 2025. It's been virtually undetectable. < 0.1
Next test is in January 2026.
I was 48 yo when I had my Rad Pro followed by salvage radiation a year later.

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@denkea

That is a great result. Orgovyx and Nubeqa Are working for you like it does for me and a lot of other people I know. I don’t know how long it will last I don’t expect to get much more than three years out of it, but you never know. In my case, my genetic problem can make the time shorter than it is for other people.

As I mentioned, we are just waiting for the next breakthrough for those that have a failure from this pair of drugs.

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@rnpalarino1 Sometimes, PCa cells are so diffuse that no scans can pick them up. Some of the new thinking involves letting the PSA go to 2.0 - yes, whole integers, not decimal fractions.
The idea being that the clump of cells producing the PSA will then be large enough to see on a scan; it can then be zapped with SBRT.
Personally, I am not sure about this because if you let ONE lesion grow to a discernible size, how many more are waiting in the wings to do the same thing?
And then if the lesions are too numerous ( I think anything over 5 of them?) you now enter Pluvicto territory - generalized radio-isotope infusion as a form of chemotherapy… it is, indeed a gamble!
The other option is to follow the advice of @jeffmark and combine the ORGOVYX with Darolutamide - this was you block both the production of T and its binding sites on PCa cells, preventing castrate resistance.
Good Luck,
Phil

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@heavyphil said:
>if you let ONE lesion grow to a discernible size, how many more are
>waiting in the wings to do the same thing?

I think the fear is additionally if you let one lesion grow it may spawn new metastasis.

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@brianjarvis Not all the drugs you mentioned work the same way. In the case of Nubeqa, it acts in concert with Orgovyx . Nubeqa is an androgen receptor inhibitor that works by blocking any remaining male hormones, including the small amounts of testosterone still present in the body from binding to the prostate cancer cells.

Question: Are any doctors recommending drug holidays after 6-12 months when the PSA level goes to near zero? Mine insists I remain on Orgovyx + Nubeqa for two years.

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@lsk1000 said, "Mine insists I remain on Orgovyx + Nubeqa for two years."

Yes, that's my friend's situation, PSA near zero, simple soft tissue location zapped with radiation and no metastasis seen, serious side effects from Orgovyx, but his oncologist recommended 18 months at the start and it's only been a year.

There are always concerns and "playing it safe" might be to stay on the ADT continuously, then again we want to see actual numbers, if the extra "safety" is on the order of 1% and the side effects are becoming overwhelming, you don't want the theoretical safety to keep you miserable when the odds are that you'll be fine with a break. And the perceived side effects suggest that real damage is being done so "safe" starts to lose its meaning.

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@heavyphil said:
>if you let ONE lesion grow to a discernible size, how many more are
>waiting in the wings to do the same thing?

I think the fear is additionally if you let one lesion grow it may spawn new metastasis.

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@carbcounter
If you get a lesion, it is likely that the cancer is in your bloodstream. It can show up anywhere bone, tissue or decide to go dormant for many years. There’s never any way to know what’s coming.

If it has spread beyond the prostate originally, that is possible to be happening as well.

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