Hormone Treatment Experience

Oh no I was just joking about getting hot flashes from watching the news!😅
My T came back to 688 3 mos after finishing Orgovyx.
Phil

I believe ArteraAI tells if you are likely to benefit from the addition of Abiraterone to standard ADT like Lupron or Orgovyx. It compares your cell patterns to a database of cell patterns and outcomes from past studies. From what I understand it is not definitive but another data point to be considered. But the outcome of AteraAI does not affect the decision for standard ADT.

The results of my ArteraAI test were:

"ST-ADT Biomarker: Positive. On average, patients with this result had significant risk reduction in distant metastasis with the addition short term androgen deprivation therapy."

The report itself says nothing about what type of ADT, and my RO recommended 6 months of Orgovyx, which I agreed to.

I believe you are right in how ArteraAI makes the determination.

I should’ve realized that, The way you put it did look a little suspect 😀

Your testosterone sure came back aggressively. Gotta make you feel a little bit better, like normal!! Whatever that is after PC

My new anti-hot-flush device: about US $20, it folds up to fit in a fanny pack or cargo-shorts pocket, and the battery is good enough to run continuously for a full working day on a single charge at lower power settings.

(It also doubles as a backup battery for a phone or tablet.)

Do you perhaps know where I can get it online. I'm in South Africa.

Somebody’s talking to themselves. Do you need to see a doctor?

There really isn’t an ADT light, The purpose of ADT is to drop your testosterone as close to zero as possible. Every single ADT drug does exactly that. With zero testosterone, the prostate cancer has nothing to grow with so it stops growing and in many cases shrinks. By ADT lite he may mean altering ADT instructions so you stop and start the drugs reducing the testosterone drop,

The alternative to hormone therapy is to use the Estradiol patch. It still drops your testosterone, but it doesn’t affect the heart as much, It doesn’t affect the desire as much and you get Fewer hot flashes. You can search patch study if you want more information.

I’ve been on ADT for eight years and it really has not affected my actual daily life, Other than the fact that I now exercise by walking on a track twice a day and going to the gym three times a week the rest of my time is quite normal for 15 years with PC.

Just some information so you know ADT possibilities

Due to their different mechanisms of action. ADT which includes Orgovyx, Firmagon, Lupron, Eligard, Prostap, Camcevi, Lucrin, Zoladex, Trelstar, Pamorelin, and Decapeptyl can cause numerous side effects. Actually due to a lack of testosterone.
Hot flashes
Fatigue
Muscle deterioration
Bone weakening
Brain fog
Depression
Weight gain
Difficulty in breathing

Not all of these side effects occur to everyone on the drugs. Most of them are just things you have to be aware of and circumvent. I walk on the track twice a day, 1 mile at least, to help prevent bone weakening, fatigue and muscle deterioration. I also go to the gym three days a week (usually) and spend an hour with all different types of weight exercises. One thing that happens is people get a beer belly from the muscle deterioration, I do a lot of sit-ups to offset that.

Some people get depression but it is not common. It is easily treatable, according to people that have reported it on here and on Online Meetings I have participated in. If he has that problem Come back and ask for help, Or see a psychiatrist about doing something to relieve the depression.

Some people get no hot flashes at all. Others only have a few hot flashes and they are very minor. I had severe hot flashes for the first year on Lupron. As a hot flash was hitting I would feel a lot of fatigue. After a year, my oncologist prescribed a depo-provera shot every three months and it really stopped those hot flashes on Lupron. There are other hormones that can do this, speak to your doctor.
I know one person that says eating tofu every day really controlled his hot flashes, another person in this forum said the same thing. Can’t hurt to try it.

According to a doctor that spoke to a recent webinar, all people on ADT should be taking bone straighteners. I took Fosamax for six years and I’m now on Zometa. That along with calcium taken daily helps keep your bones strong. Ask your doctor about this.

I have never gained any weight while on ADT. I get on the scale every morning and base what I eat on what I weigh. Skip lunch at times.