High anxiety regarding Reclast or Prolia decison for OP meds

Posted by 255anny @255anny, Aug 18 5:01pm

I am overwhelmed with making this decision. Currently on Evenity, 2 more injections left. Severe Osteporosis. Spine -4.7. I left my OP Dr's office last week with an order for Prolia starting Oct/Nov. And blood work orders. We did discuss Prolia vs Reclast but I didn't ask enough questions I guess, despite having a 1 hour appt with her. I did know and told her I feared Prolia. She relayed how much easier it was than Reclast. And the Reclast stays in your system much longer. She wrote the RX for Prolia for 1 year, then relay to Evenity again. That does not sound right to me. I can't find any studies supporting that drug sequencing. This Dr is new to me but in the practice of the most respected Endo offices in my state. She only see OP patients. I am staying up til 3am every night reading and researching. There is no right answer.

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@mayblin

@gently, are you trying to lure windy to take forteo again? 🤔

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Wel... I did Tymlos... but love some humor on here!

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@mayblin

@255anny no problem. I think I'm making myself confused here 🙂

Then really it comes down to which antiresorptive as a relay in between the two rounds of evenity is better. That's the big question. You'd have a better picture if you could find evenity-->reclast-->evenity study. Then compare which relay drug attenuated evenity's effects less. Head to head studies are likely non existent. Your endo might know a lot info about the differences in results between the two.

Hypothetical questions to both you and @windyshores, can you just go straight for a 2nd year of evenity if can get prior authorization (an after thought: it seems 12-24mo bmd increase not that much if used continously for 2 yrs)? Why a full year antiresorptive? Can you do 1 shot of prolia (a lot safer) or 1/2 dose reclast, i.e., a 6mo antiresorptive then to 2nd round evenity?

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Agree, if only there were more studies and more answers. These drug manufacturers make it so hard - maybe being a little cagey. You make some great points, why does every treat have to be a year?
I've wondered about 2 straight years of evenity. I've read so much and watched so many videos, it's a blur. But somewhere, I did that mentioned. And am I dreaming, but does Evenity lose most of it's efficacy after the first few months? And of course insurance might be an issue.

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@windyshores

Wel... I did Tymlos... but love some humor on here!

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Try to persuaded her to try Tymlos someday 🙂

On a serious note, @gently made a great point. I wonder if remodeling based bone building by Forteo/Tymlos is truly different from that by evenity. You were saying in another post that bone loss is fastest after Evenity if an antiresorptive is not used. Maybe this is why?

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@255anny

Agree, if only there were more studies and more answers. These drug manufacturers make it so hard - maybe being a little cagey. You make some great points, why does every treat have to be a year?
I've wondered about 2 straight years of evenity. I've read so much and watched so many videos, it's a blur. But somewhere, I did that mentioned. And am I dreaming, but does Evenity lose most of it's efficacy after the first few months? And of course insurance might be an issue.

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From one evenity study I read, on average, bmd increased a little over 4% during 0-3mo, closer to 4% during 4-6mo, then roughly 3-4% during months 7-12. If therapy continues, the second year had another few percentage increase in bmd so not very effective. Like you noted, efficacy in bone building is greatest during first few months.

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@255anny

I'm in a tough spot but maybe I'm making it tougher than I should. The easiest decision would be Reclast next, then with my Dr figure out the next drug. I'm so tired of doing nothing but reading about this. One study always leads to another... If I chose Reclast as my next treatment drug this October, is that usually given for 3 years straight? I'm worried about the side effects and can I make it thru 3 infusions.
I can't figure out what this study is reporting, it seems vague or else just not stating their conclusion.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00198-019-05146-9

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@255anny, thanks!

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Mablin, manipulation fails if you aren't discrete. I should have written teriparatide.

It's windyshores who is convincing me to take Tymlos, without even trying to be manipulative.

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I’m experiencing really bad dizziness and vertigo following my first Reclast infusion. It’s been 2 weeks. My doctor doesn’t seem to know what to do for it. Any suggestions?

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@jobandmob

I’m experiencing really bad dizziness and vertigo following my first Reclast infusion. It’s been 2 weeks. My doctor doesn’t seem to know what to do for it. Any suggestions?

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I wrote on the other thread....I had fever, then pins and needles, then some dizziness (which I tend to anyway) and then after the first weeks was fine. (Low dose though.)

In my experience PT's (at least those who are trained in dizziness and balance) are the best at diagnosing and treating dizziness and vertigo. There are several different kinds and many have treatment.

BPPV involves the PT looking at eye movements. There are maneuvers to do at home. Labyrithitis and vestibular neuritis also have exercises you can do at home. I get vestibular migraines which are "central" or brain-based vertigo and don't take anything for it but some people do. Hope this is all moot and you feel better soon!

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@gently

Mablin, manipulation fails if you aren't discrete. I should have written teriparatide.

It's windyshores who is convincing me to take Tymlos, without even trying to be manipulative.

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Forteo and Tymlos are both great medications! I could tolerate one but not the other but then other people have the reverse experience...

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@windyshores

I wrote on the other thread....I had fever, then pins and needles, then some dizziness (which I tend to anyway) and then after the first weeks was fine. (Low dose though.)

In my experience PT's (at least those who are trained in dizziness and balance) are the best at diagnosing and treating dizziness and vertigo. There are several different kinds and many have treatment.

BPPV involves the PT looking at eye movements. There are maneuvers to do at home. Labyrithitis and vestibular neuritis also have exercises you can do at home. I get vestibular migraines which are "central" or brain-based vertigo and don't take anything for it but some people do. Hope this is all moot and you feel better soon!

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Thanks for the info. I like the part where after a few weeks you were fine!

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