Hammertoe Surgery and Neuropathy

Posted by Debbie @dbeshears1, Aug 12, 2023

I’m wondering if anyone with PN has actually had surgery to correct hammertoes or clubbed toes? An orthopedic consult said recovery for the foot/toes takes about 3 weeks. I’m wondering if anyone experienced any PN setbacks, like increases in numbing, tingling, gait or balance issues, etc? Thanks

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@dbeshears1 Debbie - Mayo in MN gave me the identical diagnosis, axonal sensorimotor. They told me nothing can be done to "fix" this and as time moves on, the more I learn, the more I realize how right they were. I do have cold shins and feet all year where I have neuropathy, so I do agree with you. No other areas, just where I have PN. I have minor PN in fingertips but no temp change. It is not severe, just slight in fingers that effects handwriting. In summer of 2021, my sweating also changed, less in lower areas of body, more in upper part of body especially around back of neck. head and upper chest. It's tough this time of the year, less in winter months. My neuro doc says it is part of the sensory side. I found out there is a med to reduce that excessive sweating, but I don't want to take one more med if I don't need to. For now, I deal with it. Ed

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I have sensory motor peripheral neuropathy with axonal loss and some demyelination by EMG. Mayo gave me the sweat test for small fiber autonomic neuropathy, which I passed (although on repeat testing my result had improved, which suggested I had had some minor SFN damage). The likely cause of my peripheral neuropathy was the Covid vaccines and I am slowly recovering.

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@dbeshears1

Hi,
As a patient I am never in the center of the bell curve. Doctors and nurses need to realize that some of us are not text book cases.My latest neurologist has not acknowledged my PN, thinks that dental work can not cause nerve issues, and my migraines from IVig are expected. I am working at finding a new one, the hoops we have to jump through....
I hope that you can find a doctor who listens, acknowledges, and treats.

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@njed

@dbeshears1 Debbie - Mayo in MN gave me the identical diagnosis, axonal sensorimotor. They told me nothing can be done to "fix" this and as time moves on, the more I learn, the more I realize how right they were. I do have cold shins and feet all year where I have neuropathy, so I do agree with you. No other areas, just where I have PN. I have minor PN in fingertips but no temp change. It is not severe, just slight in fingers that effects handwriting. In summer of 2021, my sweating also changed, less in lower areas of body, more in upper part of body especially around back of neck. head and upper chest. It's tough this time of the year, less in winter months. My neuro doc says it is part of the sensory side. I found out there is a med to reduce that excessive sweating, but I don't want to take one more med if I don't need to. For now, I deal with it. Ed

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In the past week, I had to wipe my forehead twice while at the pool. For the first time in 6 years. It was at my hairline. Granted, it was 98 degrees out with a heat index of 110 both days. I’m thinking positive that maybe I’m having a breakthrough lol! But I’m glad it happened, it’s been miserably hot and I think it’s good for our bodies to sweat (in moderation)

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I found this conversation while researching the same subject. Debbie, I’m curious what you decided to do and how things turned out. I have neuropathy in my right foot from an L4-L5 disc blowout that sat against the nerve too long before surgery causing some permanent nerve issues. This toe is so bad and causes more pain so I’m seriously considering fixing it but I’m so worried it’s gonna make the neuropathy worse. UGH! Surgery is scheduled for 1/26/24. Thanks.

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@cwhit4

I found this conversation while researching the same subject. Debbie, I’m curious what you decided to do and how things turned out. I have neuropathy in my right foot from an L4-L5 disc blowout that sat against the nerve too long before surgery causing some permanent nerve issues. This toe is so bad and causes more pain so I’m seriously considering fixing it but I’m so worried it’s gonna make the neuropathy worse. UGH! Surgery is scheduled for 1/26/24. Thanks.

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Hi -
How timely, I just had surgery 48 hours ago! I talked to my Neurologist and my PCP for advice in advance, over months as I tried to gather as much information I could, with huge thanks to @johnbishop for his help. While the Orthopedic surgeon was ready, I too didn't want to make my PN worse. In the end, my Neurologist said the surgery shouldn't cause additional nerve injury or numbness He believes the biggest adjustment will be in re-learning a new walk after the structural changes are made to my toes. I have been adjusting my gait over time to compensate for the curling happening in my left toes. Nobody knows if the clubbing was caused by Neuropathy or just a regular thing that many folks without PN get in their lifetime. They also can't say whether my PN could ever make me susceptible to an eventual return of hammertoes, but it is believed it would take a long time if it did.
I only got my left foot done, because the right toes aren't bad enough yet, and even if so, they thought someone with PN as severe as mine would be safer getting one foot at a time. I have to wear a special surgical shoe for 3 weeks, so at least I'll be able to drive (when not on pain meds) since my right foot isn't affected. They called it "arthrodeses" on my middle three toes, which now have wires in them for three weeks; they did something called "arthroplasty" on my pinkie toe, no temporary wire in that one. I'll see my foot unwrapped at the 10 day mark for bandage change. On Day 19 I'm to get the wires pulled out in his office. My surgical shoe will go with it, so that will be my time to adapt to a new gait and make any necessary shoe style adjustments.
Just like other parts of our PN journeys, we kind of figure it out as we go along, don't we, and see what works for us? Luckily, we have good mentors and members here to share experiences and articles. I'm fresh out of the gate with this surgery and will gladly share progress as I move along. My surgeon came highly recommended, and he is as anxious as I am to make this a positive outcome for me and my balance! Debbie

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@dbeshears1

Hi -
How timely, I just had surgery 48 hours ago! I talked to my Neurologist and my PCP for advice in advance, over months as I tried to gather as much information I could, with huge thanks to @johnbishop for his help. While the Orthopedic surgeon was ready, I too didn't want to make my PN worse. In the end, my Neurologist said the surgery shouldn't cause additional nerve injury or numbness He believes the biggest adjustment will be in re-learning a new walk after the structural changes are made to my toes. I have been adjusting my gait over time to compensate for the curling happening in my left toes. Nobody knows if the clubbing was caused by Neuropathy or just a regular thing that many folks without PN get in their lifetime. They also can't say whether my PN could ever make me susceptible to an eventual return of hammertoes, but it is believed it would take a long time if it did.
I only got my left foot done, because the right toes aren't bad enough yet, and even if so, they thought someone with PN as severe as mine would be safer getting one foot at a time. I have to wear a special surgical shoe for 3 weeks, so at least I'll be able to drive (when not on pain meds) since my right foot isn't affected. They called it "arthrodeses" on my middle three toes, which now have wires in them for three weeks; they did something called "arthroplasty" on my pinkie toe, no temporary wire in that one. I'll see my foot unwrapped at the 10 day mark for bandage change. On Day 19 I'm to get the wires pulled out in his office. My surgical shoe will go with it, so that will be my time to adapt to a new gait and make any necessary shoe style adjustments.
Just like other parts of our PN journeys, we kind of figure it out as we go along, don't we, and see what works for us? Luckily, we have good mentors and members here to share experiences and articles. I'm fresh out of the gate with this surgery and will gladly share progress as I move along. My surgeon came highly recommended, and he is as anxious as I am to make this a positive outcome for me and my balance! Debbie

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Thank you your quick reply. I appreciate the information. Keep me posted as to your continued recovery.

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@dbeshears1

Hi -
How timely, I just had surgery 48 hours ago! I talked to my Neurologist and my PCP for advice in advance, over months as I tried to gather as much information I could, with huge thanks to @johnbishop for his help. While the Orthopedic surgeon was ready, I too didn't want to make my PN worse. In the end, my Neurologist said the surgery shouldn't cause additional nerve injury or numbness He believes the biggest adjustment will be in re-learning a new walk after the structural changes are made to my toes. I have been adjusting my gait over time to compensate for the curling happening in my left toes. Nobody knows if the clubbing was caused by Neuropathy or just a regular thing that many folks without PN get in their lifetime. They also can't say whether my PN could ever make me susceptible to an eventual return of hammertoes, but it is believed it would take a long time if it did.
I only got my left foot done, because the right toes aren't bad enough yet, and even if so, they thought someone with PN as severe as mine would be safer getting one foot at a time. I have to wear a special surgical shoe for 3 weeks, so at least I'll be able to drive (when not on pain meds) since my right foot isn't affected. They called it "arthrodeses" on my middle three toes, which now have wires in them for three weeks; they did something called "arthroplasty" on my pinkie toe, no temporary wire in that one. I'll see my foot unwrapped at the 10 day mark for bandage change. On Day 19 I'm to get the wires pulled out in his office. My surgical shoe will go with it, so that will be my time to adapt to a new gait and make any necessary shoe style adjustments.
Just like other parts of our PN journeys, we kind of figure it out as we go along, don't we, and see what works for us? Luckily, we have good mentors and members here to share experiences and articles. I'm fresh out of the gate with this surgery and will gladly share progress as I move along. My surgeon came highly recommended, and he is as anxious as I am to make this a positive outcome for me and my balance! Debbie

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Wow, Debbie, you've been through the wringer this year. I had hammertoe & bunion surgery on my right foot in 2011 but I was several years into my neuropathy journey at the time. I did not have wires in my toes but I was in a boot for several weeks, and I'd say it took a year for full recovery, and to figure out workable shoe styles. The PN got considerably worse after back surgery in 2021 (and a broken hip with replacement 10 weeks later). But just based on my experience which seemed to be a lot like your doctor was advising yours would be, I'd think you have a real good chance of total recovery. Hunting for shoes that are safe yet comfortable with the PN is a huge challenge, but not due to the foot surgery. I had my foot surgery this same time of the year, in the midst of holiday preparations, so I feel for you! I also wish you the very best in your recovery. Try hard not to rush it! 😉

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@dbeshears1 - Debbie, good luck on your recovery from surgery. I am curious, do any other member of your family have hammer toes? If you addressed this in the past, sorry for the question, Glad to see you addressed this and I'm sure your walking will improve so you can keep moving. 🙂 Ed

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@bjk3

Wow, Debbie, you've been through the wringer this year. I had hammertoe & bunion surgery on my right foot in 2011 but I was several years into my neuropathy journey at the time. I did not have wires in my toes but I was in a boot for several weeks, and I'd say it took a year for full recovery, and to figure out workable shoe styles. The PN got considerably worse after back surgery in 2021 (and a broken hip with replacement 10 weeks later). But just based on my experience which seemed to be a lot like your doctor was advising yours would be, I'd think you have a real good chance of total recovery. Hunting for shoes that are safe yet comfortable with the PN is a huge challenge, but not due to the foot surgery. I had my foot surgery this same time of the year, in the midst of holiday preparations, so I feel for you! I also wish you the very best in your recovery. Try hard not to rush it! 😉

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Thankyou! I may need to bend your ear for advice as I progress. I quit the narcotics at the 48 hour mark and happy to know I can just reach for OTC stuff if needed. Yes - you know the shoe dilemma. It’s just about the most important extension of our anatomy with PN! I have been so comfortable with a certain Skechers for so long and I’m keeping my fingers crossed I don’t have a major new search ahead of me. But I’ll do whatever it takes…

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