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Genistein for treating bone loss

Posted by marathon @marathon, Mar 13 10:11am

Hello, I recently begin using Osteoben with genistein. It was recommended by Kim Millman. Has anyone tried this? If so, what are your thoughts?

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marathon | @marathon | Mar 15 8:32am

Pennykj, please let me know if you have any results that you can share. Thank you. I have been using this for about a month. Lois

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gravity3 | @gravity3 | Mar 15 8:57am
In reply to @pennykj "I started taking Swanson genistein a few months ago after watching a video and researching on..." + (show)
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I started taking Swanson genistein a few months ago after watching a video and researching on my own. I am 73 years old with no history of breast cancer in my family and am not on HRT. I have had no side effects, but also have no idea if it is helping.

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@pennykj

Did I miss seeing your dexa scores? You can always pay out of pocket for dexa scan if your doctor cannot make a case for dexa scan .
Are you considering bhrt? It will not reverse osteoporosis but can certainly help. May I ask what your age is?

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pennykj | @pennykj | Mar 15 9:42am
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@pennykj

Did I miss seeing your dexa scores? You can always pay out of pocket for dexa scan if your doctor cannot make a case for dexa scan .
Are you considering bhrt? It will not reverse osteoporosis but can certainly help. May I ask what your age is?

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@gravity3
I am 73 years old; DEXA: spine -3.8; hips -2.5 (numbers stable over 2 year period); REMS: spine -3.0; hip -3.1. I am not considering BHRT based on recommendation of my gyn. I am petite and have mild scoliosis, so I am not sure my DEXA is accurate. I was seeing an osteoporosis specialist every 6 months, but after my last visit, she said "see you in 2 years."
I am taking no prescription meds. I eat a very healthy diet, including protein. I strength train 3-4x a week and have gained some muscle mass.

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codythedog | @codythedog | Mar 15 10:58am
In reply to @oopsiedaisy "Looks like it's a phytoestrogen found in soybeans that binds to estrogen receptors, i.e., it's considered..." + (show)
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Looks like it's a phytoestrogen found in soybeans that binds to estrogen receptors, i.e., it's considered a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM). In theory, it might have a similar impact on bone health as HRT.

Not recommended for anyone with a history of breast cancer or other hormone-sensitive cancers or conditions.

Could be something to try for women reluctant to use HRT.

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@oopsiedaisy

I have also started taking Osteoben with Genistein as I have tried going on HRT with three failed visits to Specialist's secondary to only my age, no history of breast cancer. You do have to stay on it for a while which I plan to do unless I can get someone to order HRT without having to spend a slight fortune. Good luck to everyone and so far having no issues with it. I have also been more diligent with my protein intake.

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daisy17 | @daisy17 | Mar 15 12:01pm
In reply to @pennykj "@gravity3 I am 73 years old; DEXA: spine -3.8; hips -2.5 (numbers stable over 2 year..." + (show)
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@gravity3
I am 73 years old; DEXA: spine -3.8; hips -2.5 (numbers stable over 2 year period); REMS: spine -3.0; hip -3.1. I am not considering BHRT based on recommendation of my gyn. I am petite and have mild scoliosis, so I am not sure my DEXA is accurate. I was seeing an osteoporosis specialist every 6 months, but after my last visit, she said "see you in 2 years."
I am taking no prescription meds. I eat a very healthy diet, including protein. I strength train 3-4x a week and have gained some muscle mass.

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@pennykj Your story is similar to me. I am 75 and with petite build. My osteoporosis is worse in my spine at -4. I have osteoarthritis in my spine, which I heard can make DEXA scores look worse. My endocrinologist wants me to take Fosamax, but I have declined due to studies I read that the actual benefit to fracture reduction is minimal. So I'm trying exercise and taking a lot of supplements so I'm not sure I want to start another one, like Genistein.

I did find this in one article: "While Fosteum (Genistein) can increase bone density, the research that has been done so far did not look at whether it actually lowers your chances of breaking a bone. So right now, we cannot say that Fosteum lowers fracture risk." This sounds very similar to bisphosphonates.

I have no thyroid so take Synthroid and read that people with thyroid issues, particularly hypothyroidism, should be cautious with soy as it can interfere with the absorption of thyroid medication. I also have parathyroid issues. I'll have to do more research on this.

Has your doctor tried to encourage you to take any of the bone meds?

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pennykj | @pennykj | Mar 15 12:52pm
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@pennykj Your story is similar to me. I am 75 and with petite build. My osteoporosis is worse in my spine at -4. I have osteoarthritis in my spine, which I heard can make DEXA scores look worse. My endocrinologist wants me to take Fosamax, but I have declined due to studies I read that the actual benefit to fracture reduction is minimal. So I'm trying exercise and taking a lot of supplements so I'm not sure I want to start another one, like Genistein.

I did find this in one article: "While Fosteum (Genistein) can increase bone density, the research that has been done so far did not look at whether it actually lowers your chances of breaking a bone. So right now, we cannot say that Fosteum lowers fracture risk." This sounds very similar to bisphosphonates.

I have no thyroid so take Synthroid and read that people with thyroid issues, particularly hypothyroidism, should be cautious with soy as it can interfere with the absorption of thyroid medication. I also have parathyroid issues. I'll have to do more research on this.

Has your doctor tried to encourage you to take any of the bone meds?

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@daisy17 Yes, my osteoporosis "specialist" doctor tried to encourage me to take Evenity or Prolia.
I also take a lot of supplements and try to purchase quality supplements, which means I spend a lot of money. I am very fortunate that I do not have any medical conditions for which I am prescribed meds. I am prediabetic, which I think is a result of genetics. I avoid eating anything with added sugar.

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pennykj | @pennykj | Mar 15 7:31pm
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Pennykj, please let me know if you have any results that you can share. Thank you. I have been using this for about a month. Lois

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@marathon Sorry, I do not have any results, and because I am taking other supplements, I do not know how I would isolate results.

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