Anyone on Gemcitabine with Abraxane? How long? Effective?

Posted by helenar @helenar, Aug 17, 2022

Hi, I'm Helena from South Africa. I have been diagnosed with PC, stage 4, in March. Tumour between body and tail and with one lesion on my liver.
I have been on Folfirinox for 3months, but it had no effect, allthough my markers came down from 3091 to 357, the tumour increased in size and there is another lesion on my liver.
I have started Gemcitabine with Abraxane.
Has anyone been on Gemcitabine/Abraxane?
If so, how long and how effective is this treatment?

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My significant other recently ( Feb 7) started Gemza/nab-paclitaxel (second line) after having completing 24 cycles of folfirinox/folfiri. He was diagnosed with Stage 4 pancan in August 2021. In Jan2023 his CT scan showed disease progression ( increase size liver Mets/new mets to liver).
The first day following his new treatment was a breeze. The next day he was hammered with fever, chills, body aches. Body aches improving but fluctuations in temperature ( range 99-102) continue. He has been in bed the last two days. Does it get better? I know every patient is different but has anyone experienced fever upon their initial/ongoing treatment? thanks in advance for any feedback.

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Profile picture for beachdog @beachdog

For my wife, folfirinox was a walk in the park compared to GAC. Of course folfirinox was at the beginning and before surgery so she was much healthier and able to tolerate much more abuse. Everyone's reacts differently.

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@beachdog How long was the gap between surgery (what kind?) and chemo? What drove the change in chemo regime from Floforinox to new one? I’m headed into surgery in
March and am curious as to your experience. Thank you!

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Profile picture for granite @granite

I have a similar question. Previously fit and active 68 year old Spouse was told there was no effect from 5 months/10 infusions of Folfirinox before laparoscopic Whipple this November (several setbacks). Its pathology report showed 4/31 lymph nodes involved. Margins clear. Tumor 2.7 cm. Moderately differentiated. CA-19-9 levels went from 35 when diagnosed in April with adenocarcinoma, stayed at 80 for several months, but now has dropped to 10 while he is recovering from surgery. Told not to place too much stock in blood test. He is now walking a couple miles a day. Few digestive issues.He will resume with 6 months of Gemcitabine/Abraxane regime at end of month. Cancer type is not typical BRCA or RAS, but BRAF. Anyone with a similar history or comment on clinical targeted therapy, etc.?

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Hello, I have heard that there are targeted therapy clinical trials out there for a BRAF mutation, but am not 100% sure, as I am not a doctor. In other words, I've heard that it is considered "potentially actionable". A qualified pancreatic cancer specialist oncologist should be able to help you find clinical trials that would be potentially helpful. Please make sure you are seeing a top research pancreatic oncologist and a major cancer center such as Sloan Kettering, Johns Hopkins, MD Anderson, Cedars, or Mayo. If you are getting care at a non-cancer center hospital, they probably won't be able to help much with clinical trials. If the mutation is actionable, it may be a positive game changer for your spouse's medical care. You can also search for clinical trials on the clinical trial government homepage or call PANCAN for help. Please do not delay this search, as it could end up being very helpful. Please let me know if you have any questions.

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Profile picture for susanpmadigan @susanpmadigan

Hi. My cousin has been on gem/Abraxane for almost 19 months now. She takes the chemo every other week and it is keeping her tumor basically the same size or a little smaller. First they give her a steroid for nauseated. She is tolerating the gem/Abraxane very well with very few side effects. She does get tired and a little nauseous for a few days after treatment but she still has an appetite and is still working !! She is so positive and amazing. Her pancreatic cancer is stage iv and is in the tail It is non operative because it is near the vein or artery. This treatment is keeping her living her life
Sincerely Susan

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Hello Susan. I just read your cousin story and was wondering if she had more then one opinion. My sister had a pancreatic cancer with tumor wrapped around celiac artery and vein. She ended up with a 16hrs surgery and is cancer free at this time. She saw Dr Corvera at UCSF. he was wonderfully. She is still recovering but so far so good. Hope it helps. Isabelle

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granite,

When you say no effect re chemo regimen, do you mean no evidence of shrinkage on CT and PET scans?

As I understand, CA 19-9 is considered to be a useful adjunct when evaluating changes, but is not used as de facto evidence. Any result over 37 is considered a sign of potential cancer ... that your spouse's started at 35 and got no higher than 80 could mean the cancer was caught early?

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I have a similar question. Previously fit and active 68 year old Spouse was told there was no effect from 5 months/10 infusions of Folfirinox before laparoscopic Whipple this November (several setbacks). Its pathology report showed 4/31 lymph nodes involved. Margins clear. Tumor 2.7 cm. Moderately differentiated. CA-19-9 levels went from 35 when diagnosed in April with adenocarcinoma, stayed at 80 for several months, but now has dropped to 10 while he is recovering from surgery. Told not to place too much stock in blood test. He is now walking a couple miles a day. Few digestive issues.He will resume with 6 months of Gemcitabine/Abraxane regime at end of month. Cancer type is not typical BRCA or RAS, but BRAF. Anyone with a similar history or comment on clinical targeted therapy, etc.?

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Profile picture for mayoconnectuser1 @mayoconnectuser1

OK ... given that PET is good for broad detection of fast growing cells (cancers), in many cases they then use CT for more granular assessment.

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My doctor doesn't do much of anything.No CTs

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Hi. My cousin has been on gem/Abraxane for almost 19 months now. She takes the chemo every other week and it is keeping her tumor basically the same size or a little smaller. First they give her a steroid for nauseated. She is tolerating the gem/Abraxane very well with very few side effects. She does get tired and a little nauseous for a few days after treatment but she still has an appetite and is still working !! She is so positive and amazing. Her pancreatic cancer is stage iv and is in the tail It is non operative because it is near the vein or artery. This treatment is keeping her living her life
Sincerely Susan

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Profile picture for pendesk8 @pendesk8

original pet scan showed cancer in 3 lymph nodes ,2nd pet scan after 4 months of abraxene and gemicide showed no cancer in lymph nodes.

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OK ... given that PET is good for broad detection of fast growing cells (cancers), in many cases they then use CT for more granular assessment.

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Profile picture for mayoconnectuser1 @mayoconnectuser1

pendesk,

Sorry, but I am confused. You say it is pancreatic cancer and has spread to three lymph nodes, but then say the PET scans show no spread into lymph nodes?

Here is a summary of how staging is characterized.
https://www.cancer.net/cancer-types/pancreatic-cancer/stages

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original pet scan showed cancer in 3 lymph nodes ,2nd pet scan after 4 months of abraxene and gemicide showed no cancer in lymph nodes.

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