For whoever takes a supplement for inflammation

Posted by cindiwass @cindiwass, Jan 19, 2023

My big problem now, after having had hip surgery, is that my knee is inflammed on the side. I GUESS I'll have to see a surgeon although I don't want an operation. This has been going on for many years because of a high school basketball injury AND the doctor at that time took out some or all (not sure) of the cartilage. So far most of the doctors I've seen rushed a visit with me, but simply said, "You need to have the knee replaced." I don't want to go through an operation like that now, I'm 79 and I am just getting over a hip replacement. Painful, but better than it was before, less pain. Thoughts, anyone? Thank you.

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This is complete BS. I have never seen such a long prologue of mumbo jumbo saying absolutely nothing substantive. As a doctor, I advise not buying into this
snake oil merchandising which ignores and refutes the fact that you can't restore damaged cartilage and reverse osteoarthritis and osteophyte formation.
Don't fall for this!!!

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@rjmtwit, I have to agree with @cfbauer. I'm concerned that the 2 websites you shared are commercial websites claiming miracle healing and are a vehicle for selling products.

When considering supplements or complementary treatments, be open-minded yet skeptical. Learn about the potential benefits and risks. Here is an article from Mayo Clinic that might interest you about evaluating claims made by the producers and/or sellers of supplements, natural products and other alternative medicines.

- Supplements: What you need to know https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/supplements-what-you-need-to-know

Key points to note:
"Companies that make herbal supplements are allowed to make claims about their products’ effectiveness as long as they have evidence to support the claims. However, companies do not need to submit this evidence to the FDA.

Companies must include a complete list of ingredients on their supplement labels. Since the FDA does not test supplements, it’s up to companies to report what’s in the pills produced. Research has found that this honor system is not so honorable."

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@brescher

I certainly would Not rush to get a total knee replacement TKR.
I feel doctors are anxious to do surgery. If you are able to get around without a wheelchair, I would certainly give it more time …
I had one in Nov 2023…. It has been very challenging, I am 65 and 120 pounds, good shape…. I am healing but it is a very slow process,
A tough challenge , mentally and physically!!!!!!
Don’t rush your thinking process!!!

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I whole heartedly agree with you. Had a surgeon rush me into knee surgery, partial because it was less invasive. But the problem was that partial knee surgery has a high failure rate, which he didn't tell me. The first time the nurses got me up my leg went crooked, out of line, from the knee down AND they still made me walk on it telling me nothing was wrong!!! You can't tell me that when the leg goes out of like that that there are not longer term problems.

Four months later I had a TKR and lg is still not right. That was in early 2021. It was strange because when the doc had me walk after first surgery he said I would get my range of motion back. When I said that to my hubby in front of him he said NOTHING. Due to COVID and other matters he did the second surgery and basically could care less about the leg. All he was interested in was trying to push me into having a TKR on the other knee.

Went to another surgeon, very well respected but a distance away. He flat out said that the partial, and other things, should not have been done to me due to the high failure rate! He also was concerned about the hospital nurses making me walk on the out of alignment leg after the 1st surgery. Very rarely will a doctor say something like that about another doctor. H helped me with care and therapy to get back what range of motion I have.

Re the other knee....he said no one should tell you when to have surgery. He has been giving me coritson shots and therapy which has helped that knee/leg alot.

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@rjmtwit

A PS to my above comment ... something else worth a try. Pretty new but tested ...
https://www.arthrozene.com/presentation_1mistake.php

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- Supplements: What you need to know https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/supplements-what-you-need-to-know

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Certainly we all need to be aware of the facts about the supplement industry. I do find it interesting that many of the new supplements have been created and tested by Doctors who did not find good answers for a problem of their own in the standard book of care procedures.
I had a hip operation and was sent home with a 3 months supply of hydrocodone. Had to do a withdrawal process that thank goodness I did before it got bad.
I also had what turned out to be a 'lax' ligament back in 2014-2017. Took 6 doctors to find a solution in prolotherapy.
So my point is ... Mayo is one of the best but we need to be thoughtful about all our treatments.

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@cherip

@cindiwass -
I do go with the crowd and think going to a doctor/surgeon to get the knee imaged is really important. If they actually removed cartilage, then I don't think they can add in cushioning (now THAT would revolutionize how they treat worn-out joints!). While you're waiting for the Dr, maybe a knee brace will help support things and keep things from moving all willy-nilly.

I do hear knee replacements are easier than hip replacements.....

Good luck!

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All good thoughts for sure. I was a fencer for 30 years and competitive fencing can really take a toll on the knees. After stopping I began to notice knee pain iny left knee in my mid 50's. Since then I get semi annual shots of HA in the knee. It is hyaluronic acid which we all make naturally. This helps to cushion my damaged cartilage and reduces pain quite a bit. Check it out on Mayo site and consider this along with imaging and medical consultation. Johnmacc

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