FMD during Chemo

Posted by karamikiko @karamikiko, Mar 15 6:00pm

HI! Has anyone tried FMD during Chemo?

We were introduced to The Longevity Diet by Valter Longo by a Cancer Survivor Friend. The Oncologist at Kaiser Permanente said he would support my husband doing it while undergoing Chemo as long as he did not lose too much weight.
My husband is either Stage 3 or 4 GEJ Adenocarcinoma.

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Me personally... it's a bullsht gimmick... don't bother. You sure as hell ain't gonna starve his cancer to death. That ship has sailed. He has cancer... his cancer will convert anything in his body to be fed and to grow and to metastasize. It knows what to do... regardless of what he eats. And besides... there are plenty of places on our EC journeys we are up against weight loss. I advise hundreds of my fellow EC patients I counsel to pack on the weight any chance they get... as long as they can swallow and keep it down. During our chemoradiation treatments we often lose our taste buds... lose our desire to eat... have nasty nausea, etc. But if you can swallow... go get 'em! EAT EAT EAT! you're eating for survival... for all that is yet to come on your EC journey.
But I get it... sometimes we all want that mental edge... to believe how we're eating now is helping us to fight our cancer. Hogwash... stop losing weight and pack on those pounds... because looking like a corpse... freezing your ass off... feeling your bones just sitting on hard surfaces... many of us have been there! Not pretty! Be well!

Gary

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I think this has interesting potential, I didn’t know much about it but this article was very helpful.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10037739/
See what you think 🙏

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I'm interested in what you choose to do and how it is working for you. My husband has Stage 4 GEJ Adenocarcinoma as well. He was diagnosed by accident in a CAC CT scan 3 months ago and has no symptoms. He is very good at sticking to a diet and we plan to incorporate FMD in his chemo regimen. We have read lots of research about fasting and it's benefits to not only stress the cancer cells to make them more susceptible to chemo, but also protect normal cells from chemo and that it also reduces symptoms from the chemo. My current quest is to find a version of FMD (meal plan) that is low in sugar and is not full of supplements (Prolan). We'd like to go whole-foods as much as possible. Outside the 5-day FMD cycle he follows a higher fat/protein KETO-type diet. He will be doing his second round of chemo (FOLFOX) today. First round of chemo was well tolerated with a home-grown very reduced calorie & low carb diet 2 days before and after. Fingers crossed. I get that it's hard to study this as it relies on the patient to follow a strict diet (we all falter with that!), but the theory has been around enough years (search The Warburg Effect) now that I wish I could see more results being posted. Note we are not getting support from our oncology nutritionist and so are flying solo, which just makes it that much more scary. Good luck to you and your husband! Would love to hear of your results with it.

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I'm interested in what you choose to do and how it is working for you. My husband has Stage 4 GEJ Adenocarcinoma as well. He was diagnosed by accident in a CAC CT scan 3 months ago and has no symptoms. He is very good at sticking to a diet and we plan to incorporate FMD in his chemo regimen. We have read lots of research about fasting and it's benefits to not only stress the cancer cells to make them more susceptible to chemo, but also protect normal cells from chemo and that it also reduces symptoms from the chemo. My current quest is to find a version of FMD (meal plan) that is low in sugar and is not full of supplements (Prolan). We'd like to go whole-foods as much as possible. Outside the 5-day FMD cycle he follows a higher fat/protein KETO-type diet. He will be doing his second round of chemo (FOLFOX) today. First round of chemo was well tolerated with a home-grown very reduced calorie & low carb diet 2 days before and after. Fingers crossed. I get that it's hard to study this as it relies on the patient to follow a strict diet (we all falter with that!), but the theory has been around enough years (search The Warburg Effect) now that I wish I could see more results being posted. Note we are not getting support from our oncology nutritionist and so are flying solo, which just makes it that much more scary. Good luck to you and your husband! Would love to hear of your results with it.

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First off, sorry that your husband also has the same diagnosis. The only symptom my husband had was one bite of food getting stuck occasionally over the course of 6 months. We switched to a Keto diet prior to the start of chemo. He has had no sugar and processed foods. He just had Round 4 on Tuesday. For rounds 1 and 2 he did 24 hour fast prior to the chemo start time and a 24 hour fast after the chemo completion time. His CEA prior to the start of treatment was a 10, after 2 rounds he was down to a 4.7. Round 3 and 4 he did not fast because he had to take Decadron as per the Oncologist to be able to get Taxotere. We hired an Integrative Nurse that compliments the Oncologist. However, our Oncologist actually did recommend trying a Keto diet and fasting.

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